Eso si, Que es said:

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Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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What if I told you they were one in the same?

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Fix the entitlements and the fraud isn't attractive. Kill the entitlements or severely cut them. Build in automatic cuts based on debt or GDP ratios. But all the "conservatives" here will ***** that they paid into SS so it's their money. We paid TAXES. That has been established over and over. The first beneficiaries of SS were paid with someone else's taxes. Same as today.

Kill the dumbass "safety nets" and then no one has anything to fraudulently take advantage of.

Praying this isn't just 'lip service'. Although the pushback is going to be wild....

Well well, look at this pic.twitter.com/3C3oQfsjTZ

— Sunchaser (@Sunchasegirl) April 3, 2026

Getting a new job isn't "doing work". Let's see if he is actually effective at this task before getting excited.

Pinochet said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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What if I told you they were one in the same?

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Fix the entitlements and the fraud isn't attractive. Kill the entitlements or severely cut them. Build in automatic cuts based on debt or GDP ratios. But all the "conservatives" here will ***** that they paid into SS so it's their money. We paid TAXES. That has been established over and over. The first beneficiaries of SS were paid with someone else's taxes. Same as today.

Kill the dumbass "safety nets" and then no one has anything to fraudulently take advantage of.

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I've heard many people here say they would gladly give up their SS benefits if they would just kill the program and facade of it all, myself included. I am 15 years from retirement and I have zero expectations of getting SS, let me invest my money

Wake me up when something is actually done to prevent fraud.

northeastag said:

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Wake me up when something is actually done to prevent fraud.

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or we have mass arrests for the current fraudsters.

I'm glad that fraud only happens in blue states and not red ones according to Trump.

Eso si, Que es said:

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Pinochet said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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What if I told you they were one in the same?

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Fix the entitlements and the fraud isn't attractive. Kill the entitlements or severely cut them. Build in automatic cuts based on debt or GDP ratios. But all the "conservatives" here will ***** that they paid into SS so it's their money. We paid TAXES. That has been established over and over. The first beneficiaries of SS were paid with someone else's taxes. Same as today.

Kill the dumbass "safety nets" and then no one has anything to fraudulently take advantage of.

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I've heard many people here say they would gladly give up their SS benefits if they would just kill the program and facade of it all, myself included. I am 15 years from retirement and I have zero expectations of getting SS, let me invest my money

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You obviously aren't reading all the threads. I'm with you but there are others that parade around like staunch conservatives and then sound like Marxists when you even suggest that their benefits would be cut at all. They say things like "just give me back all the taxes I paid and I will give up my entitlement."

I thought Elon fixed all this last year.

torrid said:

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I thought Elon fixed all this last year.

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This sounds more like giving JD something to do that will get him some positive exposure needed for his run in '28. Seeing as how Marco is taking up all the oxygen, JD needs this, and a whole lot more, before he can even be considered on equal footing as Marco, who is all but a given to run for POTUS in '28.

Feeder Road said:

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Getting a new job isn't "doing work". Let's see if he is actually effective at this task before getting excited.

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Read the article. Raids already started. I'd say that's doing work.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Waste and fraud are integral funding mechanisms for the Democrat party and their constituencies. They'll fight every step of the way to keep crime and corruption unabated.

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The fact Republicans try to claim they are immune or disengaged from similar waste and fraud is laughable and shameful.

Both parties are adept at manipulating their constituents into believing they are the righteous and the other party is the wicked.

TexasAggie73 said:

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I'm glad that fraud only happens in blue states and not red ones according to Trump.

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It happens in all states, but the red ones might do something about it. The blue ones enshrine it as a third rail.

TexasAggie73 said:

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I'm glad that fraud only happens in blue states and not red ones according to Trump.

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I wonder how massive state debt blue state versus red state stacks up. Say, I don't know, New York and California versus Florida and Texas. Hmmmm?

Edit: and if you read the article, Trump believes it's happening in red states, too, just not at the scale of blue states. You've got your head in the sand if you don't know that it's more pervasive in Democrat controlled states. It's the only way that party stays alive. No "common sense" individual or family would run their household the same.

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TexasAggie73 said:

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I'm glad that fraud only happens in blue states and not red ones according to Trump.

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I wonder how massive state debt blue state versus red state stacks up. Say, I don't know, New York and California versus Florida and Texas. Hmmmm?

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What do federal programs have to do with state budgets? The federal government can run a budget deficit while most states are required by law to run a balanced budget.

torrid said:

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I thought Elon fixed all this last year.

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Lucky for you, no one is going to accuse you of being a deep thinker!

trar

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Texas12&0 said:

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TexasAggie73 said:

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I'm glad that fraud only happens in blue states and not red ones according to Trump.

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I wonder how massive state debt blue state versus red state stacks up. Say, I don't know, New York and California versus Florida and Texas. Hmmmm?

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What do federal programs have to do with state budgets? The federal government can run a budget deficit while most states are required by law to run a balanced budget.

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The states receive dollars from the federal government in which the states are responsible for its management.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Waste and fraud are integral funding mechanisms for the Democrat party and their constituencies. They'll fight every step of the way to keep crime and corruption unabated.

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The fact Republicans try to claim they are immune or disengaged from similar waste and fraud is laughable and shameful.

Both parties are adept at manipulating their constituents into believing they are the righteous and the other party is the wicked.

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Can't star this enough.

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Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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Entitlement fraud might be 25% of our entitlement spending.

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I think you greatly underestimate people's incentive, ability, and opportunity to commit fraud with federal dollars.

Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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They aren't a drop in the bucket because a lot of the waste and fraud is in Entitlements and social programs.

Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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There's a lot of waste and fraud around managing entitlement programs and receiving entitlements... A LOT.

There's also a lot of waste and fraud around receiving grants, winning government contracts, and other spending, but entitlements are too easily taken advantage of because no one wants to touch them.

Yes, there are some corrupt republicans. It is not core and fundamental to conservative ideology that the financial ends justifies the legal means like it is with leftist Democrats

Conservatives are sti much more culturally and individually likely to be conscientious rule and ethical tradition followers.

I can't agree that there is default automatic equivocation in frequency and magnitude. The political cultures have fundamental differences, though I will agree high level politics does attract narcissistic psychopaths on both sides. It is still asymmetrical due to open leftist personality types versus more conscientious conservatives that are much less tolerant of this.

MouthBQ98 said:

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I can't agree that there is default automatic equivocation in frequency and magnitude. The political cultures have fundamental differences, though I will agree high level politics does attract narcissistic psychopaths on both sides. It is still asymmetrical due to open leftist personality types versus more conscientious conservatives that are much less tolerant of this.

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There is absolutely no equivalency. Saying there is, is idiotic.

Those asserting this must show at least one example of a Republican/Conservative US Aid-type program.

Individual bureaucrats as well as politicians on both sides will be fallible and susceptible to rationalizing taking advantage of opportunities available to them in government positions to enrich themselves. It's the fraud triangle: opportunity, rationalization, and some sort of pressure.

However, the bureaucrats and politicians on the left side - those in favor of big government, ever growing government, benevolent government whose purpose is to solve every problem for everyone - seem to have far more opportunity to take advantage with reckless abandon. Whereas, politicians on the right, who have to get elected on making government smaller, lowering the extraction via taxes, lessening regulations that grow government and create fake/new industry opportunities for compliance, spending, grants, etc., there is less opportunity and more scrutiny.


i.e. if your goal is to get rich from a meager salaried government job or elected position, be a democrat/socialist because it's encouraged and accepted.

Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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Some data indicates that waste and fraud may comprise up to 30% of total entitlement payouts. Imagine it is half that. 15% less of ALL sicial security payouts? If ALL Medicare payouts? Of ALL EITC credit payouts? On and on. That's MASSIVE. Could be half a trillion dollars annually

Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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Used to think this way... not convinced this is the truth anymore.

We certainly pay way too much in taxes for the **** system we have and the "entitlements" are being frauded at a ridiculous rate... if you cut out just the fraud done by democrats in these systems the cost would probably be cut by 70%.

Pinochet said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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Pinochet said:

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Waste and fraud is a drop in the bucket. Entitlements are the problem.

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What if I told you they were one in the same?

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Fix the entitlements and the fraud isn't attractive. Kill the entitlements or severely cut them. Build in automatic cuts based on debt or GDP ratios. But all the "conservatives" here will ***** that they paid into SS so it's their money. We paid TAXES. That has been established over and over. The first beneficiaries of SS were paid with someone else's taxes. Same as today.

Kill the dumbass "safety nets" and then no one has anything to fraudulently take advantage of.

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Says the youngun that's paid into it for just a few years so you aren't getting ****ed much.

Who cares if it ****s us old farts that are close to getting it, right, even though we've paid it for 40+ years...

Phase it out...

Even if that means folks like me only get 90% and folks 10 years younger get 60%, etc....