Logos Stick said:

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Ha ha ha...

OMG https://t.co/o92nBTjJJb

— Marc Thiessen 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇦🇹🇼🇮🇱 (@marcthiessen) April 3, 2026

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Erlanger

Just so you know, Steven Erlanger (the dumbass that wrote that headline & article) has a degree from Harvard (magna cum laude), is the chief diplomatic correspondent for Europe for the NYT, and is a demonstrable fraud.

When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.…

— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 3, 2026

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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.

France particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they're doing what they've always done - showing weakness, while cutting deals with terrorists. (The reason the US has a Marine Corps and Navy is unlike France, we refused to pay a ransom to the Barbary Pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal.)

Wars have unintended consequences as nations show their true colors.

NATO will never be the same, and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause.

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NATO win easily, if only due to central and eastern NATO countries, but certainly if the sleeping Germanic warrior actually wakes up.

Russia is only a threat due to their stockpile of nuclear weapons. In a conventional war they are completely incompetent. 4 years in the Russians are fighting over villages (VILLAGES!) in Eastern Ukraine, and doing so very poorly.

Ha ha ha

Maybe we really could get a North American Treaty Organization if we leave Nato. That would be pretty hilarious.

🚨 JUST IN: President Trump PUMMELS the New York Times after they called NATO the "North AMERICAN Treaty Organization" 🤣

"The Failing New York Times, whose lack of credibility, and their constant Fake News attacks on your favorite President, ME, has caused its circulation to… pic.twitter.com/XzKHznKqjZ

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) April 4, 2026

Caveat, I don't want any (more) treaties with the current government of Canada, and frankly Narco-Mexico's pretty iffy on their best days.

We do have the Rio Treaty which most people are not aware even exists. It's largely toothless and irrelevant at this point.

We should revive that with the Central and South American countries that are trending the correct direction politically like El Salvador, Chile, etc.

We leave NATO and Israel attacks Turkey and we defend Israel. Another Middle East war we shouldn't be in

Garr3ttmj9 said:

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We leave NATO and Israel attacks Turkey and we defend Israel. Another Middle East war we shouldn't be in

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No they wouldn't. lol.

I can believe that Turkey would attack Israel, but not the other way around.

If Russia attacks France, Spain and England, I would prefer to stay neutral. But if we get in the fight, I would rather fight on Russia's side. Western Europe will be conquered, most likely by Islam, possibly Russia or somebody else. The Europeans worth a damn came to America leaving the pansies in Europe.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.…

— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) April 3, 2026

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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.

France particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they're doing what they've always done - showing weakness, while cutting deals with terrorists. (The reason the US has a Marine Corps and Navy is unlike France, we refused to pay a ransom to the Barbary Pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal.)

Wars have unintended consequences as nations show their true colors.

NATO will never be the same, and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause.

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I've been saying this since those countries basically abrogated their duty to help us as an ally....

Pull everyone out of the UK/Spain/Italy bases and move them to Poland and the Baltics (that'll piss off Putin but he can't do **** about it). Maybe Czech Republic and Hungary. And/or Morocco...

Closer to the areas THE US has to give a **** about...mainly the middle east.

I wouldn't bail on Germany, though. They semi-supported us, plus Ramstein is kinda important.

nortex97 said:

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Maybe we really could get a North American Treaty Organization if we leave Nato. That would be pretty hilarious.

🚨 JUST IN: President Trump PUMMELS the New York Times after they called NATO the "North AMERICAN Treaty Organization" 🤣

"The Failing New York Times, whose lack of credibility, and their constant Fake News attacks on your favorite President, ME, has caused its circulation to… pic.twitter.com/XzKHznKqjZ

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) April 4, 2026

Caveat, I don't want any (more) treaties with the current government of Canada, and frankly Narco-Mexico's pretty iffy on their best days.

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He just kicked the NYT's balls all the way up to their throat...

Even though it identifies as an Old Gray Lady....

Has anyone at the NYT been fired yet? That is just monumentally embarrassing.

That is really embarrassing for the NYT. Our media has gone to hell.

Bamburg, Germany happens.

We were stationed in Bamberg, Germany for over 5 years. When the base closed down in 2014, it devastated the local economy. Now it’s a housing center for illegal immigrants and the once beautiful city looks like a third world shi!hole and the locals are stuck between letting… pic.twitter.com/pN81rriOdG

— CaliRN619 🚑🩺🚑 (@CaliRN619) April 6, 2026

Soon. Former Warner Barracks. This is exactly what the Brits/Germans will convert more of our former barracks/installation housing into, after we withdraw;

A group of approx 40 migrants shouting the slogans of “Allahu Akbar” attempted to gain unauthorized access to the so-called asylum seekers accommodation in Bamberg, Germany.

This prompted a large scale Police operation.

Currently, the center houses more than 2,500 people… pic.twitter.com/RtGMfYKqIr

— Sunanda Roy 👑 (@SaffronSunanda) September 23, 2023

MilanoCowboy said:

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Might as well start the planning to vacate NATO bases soon, as half of Europe will be sharia states within 20 years. Western Europe is suicidal and I see no point in trying to protect something that is bent on suicide. It would be interesting to know what the terms are on the US's acquisition of additional territory in Greenland. Would that agreement be invalidated if we chuck NATO? I would be surprised if Trump weren't already negotiating with some Easter Europe nations on developing joint bases.

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we earned those bases with blood and treasure. Time to pivot back to an occupying presence.

How about this irony?:

We shift all of our bases and resources to friendlier and saner Eastern European countries. Ultimately placate Russia as a loose ally and then we have to worry about what's "behind" us - Western Europe.

I'm not saying this is going to happen, but considering the cultural suicide of Western Europe it's an ironic outcome to contemplate.

If NATO is gone, Argentina is definitely invading to retake the Falkland Islands. With Chagos, Starmer completely torched the deterrence Thatcher built with the last war. And Milei could easily take it. Britain can’t do anything. No ships. Now all of LATAM now recognizes Malvinas… https://t.co/zbQ5sPBM24

— MJ (@Real_Politik101) April 7, 2026

I actually hope this happens, if only to humiliate the UK.

I had not thought of that wrinkle.

Might want to check the decrepit state of the Argentine Navy and Air Force

GAC06 said:

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Might want to check the decrepit state of the Argentine Navy and Air Force

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UK not much better. Might be a standoff of them just jeering at one another across the water.

UK is light years better off.

MouthBQ98 said:

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NATO has some very real value to us regarding global force projection for us that lets us exercise substantial economic influence. Base access and logistics are important.

We definitely need to address the TERMS of the treaty, however. If we are carrying so much of the load, we should also have privileges, and our demands for aid should carry more weight.

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Nothing we cannot negotiate unilaterally with 2 or 3 individual countries. We don't need the expense and complexity or NATO to base US troops overseas.

And, for anyone not paying attention; we should just take Greenland and give the Danes a big middle finger. This whole nonsense about not using our bases in Europe just shows they can't be trusted in a conflict to do the right thing and help US interests.

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If Russia gets in a real war with other NATO countries without the US - I would assume if it got serious that these other NATO countries would go straight for Russias refineries and basically take their fuel away. Ukraine has been "nice" to a certain point on going after Russian refineries and crude transportation methods and storage

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Ukraine hasn't been "nice" it's a matter of mutual destruction.

We ****ed around with Russia in Ukraine for no good reason and now Americans are paying with their lives and equipment and money in Iran.

(Russia providing high level targeting data of live targets and bases. Same **** we've been doing to them.)

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UK is light years better off.

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They may have to prove it!

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Might want to check the decrepit state of the Argentine Navy and Air Force

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They have some 'used' F-16's they have started to receive via the Danes.

It would be absolutely comical if the Brits asked us to help them defend these. I don't know much about the Argentinian navy though I have a tough time believing it is in comparably worse shape than the Brits.

I wonder if the UK can actually get their boats there and back again.

Tuff call...Argentina has conservative leadership, is in our hemisphere and is a Catholic majority nation...

UK, is a ****ing mess lead by a radical leftist and the Church of England is destroying itself with an idiot Monarch whose son is apparently as big an idiot as the old man.

I see nothing that furthers US interests with the UK controlling the Faulklands.

Powerhouse UK Navy

🚨 BREAKING: UK warship HMS Dragon has been forced to withdraw in order to be repaired at port after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) April 7, 2026

nortex97 said:

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GAC06 said:

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Might want to check the decrepit state of the Argentine Navy and Air Force

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They have some 'used' F-16's they have started to receive via the Danes.

It would be absolutely comical if the Brits asked us to help them defend these. I don't know much about the Argentinian navy though I have a tough time believing it is in comparably worse shape than the Brits.

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They are much worse off. Their two subs are both inoperable. Their entire navy managed 139 days at sea in 2024. 2025 they were hoping if to achieve a whopping 400something days at sea.

That's a for a navy of supposedly 40 ships

GAC06 said:

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UK is light years better off.

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Is it? I don't think so.

japantiger said:

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Powerhouse UK Navy

🚨 BREAKING: UK warship HMS Dragon has been forced to withdraw in order to be repaired at port after experiencing issues with its fresh water supplies

— Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) April 7, 2026

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Guess that answers my question two posts above yours. That didn't take long.

Mark it, NATO and also American "allies" will be dealt with harshly during this ceasefire. There will be ultimatums given along the lines of "if this ceasefire is violated or upon completion of it, we expect xyz or we're done with you"