So, if we leave NATO...

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Logos Stick said:

Ha ha ha...




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Erlanger

Just so you know, Steven Erlanger (the dumbass that wrote that headline & article) has a degree from Harvard (magna cum laude), is the chief diplomatic correspondent for Europe for the NYT, and is a demonstrable fraud.
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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.

France particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they're doing what they've always done - showing weakness, while cutting deals with terrorists. (The reason the US has a Marine Corps and Navy is unlike France, we refused to pay a ransom to the Barbary Pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal.)

Wars have unintended consequences as nations show their true colors.

NATO will never be the same, and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause.

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NATO win easily, if only due to central and eastern NATO countries, but certainly if the sleeping Germanic warrior actually wakes up.

Russia is only a threat due to their stockpile of nuclear weapons. In a conventional war they are completely incompetent. 4 years in the Russians are fighting over villages (VILLAGES!) in Eastern Ukraine, and doing so very poorly.
Logos Stick
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Ha ha ha
nortex97
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Maybe we really could get a North American Treaty Organization if we leave Nato. That would be pretty hilarious.

Caveat, I don't want any (more) treaties with the current government of Canada, and frankly Narco-Mexico's pretty iffy on their best days.
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We do have the Rio Treaty which most people are not aware even exists. It's largely toothless and irrelevant at this point.

We should revive that with the Central and South American countries that are trending the correct direction politically like El Salvador, Chile, etc.
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We leave NATO and Israel attacks Turkey and we defend Israel. Another Middle East war we shouldn't be in
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Garr3ttmj9 said:

We leave NATO and Israel attacks Turkey and we defend Israel. Another Middle East war we shouldn't be in


No they wouldn't. lol.
Buck Turgidson
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I can believe that Turkey would attack Israel, but not the other way around.
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If Russia attacks France, Spain and England, I would prefer to stay neutral. But if we get in the fight, I would rather fight on Russia's side. Western Europe will be conquered, most likely by Islam, possibly Russia or somebody else. The Europeans worth a damn came to America leaving the pansies in Europe.

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StandUpforAmerica said:



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When this is over, the western part of NATO will never be the same. Spain, England, France and Italy have sold us out, as they too often have a history of doing. Eastern European nations are the heart of NATO. They spend money on defense, know how to fight and love the US.

France particularly deserves fault and blame. From supporting China and Russia at the UN to denying Americans overflight rights, they're doing what they've always done - showing weakness, while cutting deals with terrorists. (The reason the US has a Marine Corps and Navy is unlike France, we refused to pay a ransom to the Barbary Pirates. France is always happy to cut a deal.)

Wars have unintended consequences as nations show their true colors.

NATO will never be the same, and Western European weakness and acquiescence is the cause.



I've been saying this since those countries basically abrogated their duty to help us as an ally....

Pull everyone out of the UK/Spain/Italy bases and move them to Poland and the Baltics (that'll piss off Putin but he can't do **** about it). Maybe Czech Republic and Hungary. And/or Morocco...

Closer to the areas THE US has to give a **** about...mainly the middle east.

I wouldn't bail on Germany, though. They semi-supported us, plus Ramstein is kinda important.
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nortex97 said:

Maybe we really could get a North American Treaty Organization if we leave Nato. That would be pretty hilarious.

Caveat, I don't want any (more) treaties with the current government of Canada, and frankly Narco-Mexico's pretty iffy on their best days.

He just kicked the NYT's balls all the way up to their throat...

Even though it identifies as an Old Gray Lady....
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Has anyone at the NYT been fired yet? That is just monumentally embarrassing.
Got a Natty!
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That is really embarrassing for the NYT. Our media has gone to hell.
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