Let's not delve, I've heard some super crazy **** coming out of plenty a Catholic mouth and this is not the forum for such.

But let's not pretend you haven't been claiming to have vastly superior knowledge while dismissing anyone not willing to blame Israel for all conflict in the region as crazy religious zealots, all while your position is entirely religious in nature.

Phatbob said:

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Let's not delve, I've heard some super crazy **** coming out of plenty a Catholic mouth and this is not the forum for such.

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I'm not Catholic. Why are we dunking on the Catholics when they're not here?

I'm down. I just didn't know if there was a reason we were doing it.

I want to match your energy and the spirit of it.

If you wanna jump over to the other form and start some smack talk I got your back.

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Most evangelicals have 0, and I mean 0, historical understanding of judiasms post Christ.

Couple of questions here from first principles:

-Can people commune with demons and exchange worship for power and reign on this earth? Did jewish groups do it? Can they still do it? What would it look like if they did?
-Is God guiding modern rabbinical Judaism as a whole? Where'd He go after the temple was destroyed? What happened to those who tried to rebuild the temple a third time?
-What is/was the purpose, theologically, for judiasm anyway? What are the promises by God? Is judiasm interested in A) universal salvation and B)what is the role of the gentile in modern judiasm?
-Who is Israel after Christ's resurrection?

Your beliefs about modern Israel are downstream of these answers. Evangelicals love them some judaism because they have kept no authority, historicity, or liturgical practices from the second temple era. And they wrongly believe Judiasm has and is the only inheritor who did.

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That's cute. Please tell us more as the authority about what someone else knows and believes.

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Just because you don't believe in authority doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

This whole thread is protestant FOMO. Evangelicals who look up to jews are modern day judiazers. If you're envious of their liturgics and history at the very least join a church that has monastics.

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You're pointing out things that happened (overthrow of Mossadegh) but what you aren't pointing out is why. The "why" is what needs to be contemplated most.

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I know WHY we did it.

Mossadegh was essentially pushing Iran towards communism and close relations with the Soviet Union as well as his nationalism of the oil industry.