Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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These US Olympians represent the median voter right now. This concerned moderate supports their concerns.

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That's just it, though. They're there to represent the entire country, not just some small group they agree with.

They - just like the groups they align with- love to accuse Trump of being divisive, but then they go to another country and become divisive themselves, proving that they have no idea what and who they're supposed to be representing.

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They are representing their country, warts and all. America is not holding hands and singing kumbaya at the moment, we're going through an existential reset of who we are. That's playing out right now in athletes, artists, and boardrooms. They're allowed to be citizens. And I can still disagree with Blake Treinan and hope he can fix his close.

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Disagree. They're not there to amplify what THEY BELIEVE are warts. They are there to represent their country. If they want to be political activists, go do that. True, they are free to say whatever they want - including the bashing of their own country - but they are of a small handful of countries that are able and willing to do so, and as such, look like simple fools on the world stage.

I have no interest in cheering for activists who wear a uniform they are ashamed of. Either be proud of being from this country, or go find one you are proud of.

This type of attitude is destroying the purpose of the Olymics, which is for athletes to honor the purity of fellowship and sport without the animus of political disagreement for a short time. They're not changing any minds. They're exacerbating division.

It's unfortunate you don't understand this.

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That's what YOU want them to do. Kurt Shilling endorsed Bush after the Red Sox won in 2004. Black power fist in whatever Olympics that was. Sports and politics have always mixed and the athletes dont have to say I bleed red white and blue no matter what to still be Americans representing their country.

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Kurt Shilling endorsed Bush after the Red Sox won in 2004.
Yes, he did. In this country. Here. Just as Pop or Steve Kerr endorse leftist candidates. I'm actually more okay with that than I am with the pontificating during press conferencess, but I digress...

Black power fist in whatever Olympics that was.
A powerful statement, silently made, from the podium after competition was complete by those who's civil rights were actually being violated. No pontification in press conferences, as I recall.

And as stated above, if ICE was so terrible, where was this outrage during the Clinton, Obama, and Biden administrations when there were more illegals deported?

Face it, cosplaying discontent based upon who occupies the Oval doesn't play well and is divisive. And at the end of the day, these poor fools are simply going to go the way of the Chicks, the Grammys, and Bud Light.

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Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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Your argument is "see? This entitled sports nepo brat agrees with me so communism shall triumph!"

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Malibu said:

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Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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Your argument is "see? This entitled sports nepo brat agrees with me so communism shall triumph!"

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No, its that you repeatedly calling me a communist is what passes for debate around here.

Yeah, ICE tactics and budget have meaningfully changed in the last year. I think the electorate is responding to that.

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Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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Your argument is "see? This entitled sports nepo brat agrees with me so communism shall triumph!"

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No, its that you repeatedly calling me a communist is what passes for debate around here.

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It's literally what you're pushing in your own words

"see?! This sports nepo baby agrees with me so that means the average American is ready for communism!"

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Yeah, ICE tactics and budget have meaningfully changed in the last year. I think the electorate is responding to that.

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Only because extra budget and tactics are required because leftist localities no longer cooperate with Federal agencies and release illegals who had detainers. Heck, I saw this week that ICE even had their own office in some jails under Biden, but now are persona-non-grata under Trump. But you knew all this, didn't you?

And, as we digress into American political debate, athletes in Italy want to play like Billie Eilish on the world stage. Not a good look, and not changing any minds.

You guys getting offended about what theyre saying are just as bad- all around who cares

Rich white kids that could afford to be in competitive skiing. I'm so shocked.

My wife has family like this. Most useless and out of touch people on the planet. Granola munching liberals.

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You guys getting offended about what theyre saying are just as bad- all around who cares

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Normally, I would care about them, how they did, and how the US does. But, perhaps you're right. They are more interested in representing their ideas rather than their country. So...

Think I'll just head to the golf course.

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And as stated above, if ICE was so terrible, where was this outrage during the Clinton, Obama, and Biden administrations when there were more illegals deported?

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That line really doesn't help your argument. What that quote says is that Clinton, Obama, and Biden were able to do it without the use of heavy handed tactics and weird talk of bravado with regards to rounding up illegals.

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Rich white kids that could afford to be in competitive skiing. I'm so shocked.

My wife has family like this. Most useless and out of touch people on the planet. Granola munching liberals.

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Privilege gonna privilege.

That being said, did you guys just watch our ice skaters? They scored the highest score by over ten points.

Vamos, equipo de EE. UU.!

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Rich white kids that could afford to be in competitive skiing. I'm so shocked.

My wife has family like this. Most useless and out of touch people on the planet. Granola munching liberals.

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Privilege gonna privilege.

That being said, did you guys just watch our ice skaters? They scored the highest score by over ten points.

Vamos, equipo de EE. UU.!

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I almost didnt watch since it was ice skating but her use of the skirt like a bullfighting cape was outstanding

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I think this whole thread can be summarized with three words:

Liberals ruin everything.

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Three better words,

Commies are worse

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The complete lack of awareness of how every other country operates is always interesting. You do realize you enjoy more freedom - as do those in our country illegally - than basically every other person at that Olympics, right? Apparently not

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some of you must be like 15 years old

because in EVERY SINGLE OLYMPICS where there is a Republican President this happens.

anyone remember Rapinoe and Trump?

George W. Bush and the Iraq war?

Reagan and Star Wars/ Pershing Deployment into Europe

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Why do they fall for this **** every time. If your not proud then resign your position on the team put your politics first and quit in protest.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/josephchalfant/2026/02/07/american-olympians-bash-their-own-country-as-democrats-and-media-gush-n2670915

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I refuse to watch these entitled brats. Either shut your pie hole or move to another country.

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DISGUSTING: Team USA Olympic Freestyle Skier Hunter Hess: “It brings up mixed emotions to represent the U.S. right now… It’s a little hard. There’s obviously a lot going on that I’m not the biggest fan of, and I think a lot of people aren’t.”

“Just because I wear the flag… pic.twitter.com/IliHp2UNr2

— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) February 7, 2026

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As a follow up, what specifically is "a little hard" for you? Great time to list your spefic grievances since you went there.

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Rich white kids that could afford to be in competitive skiing. I'm so shocked.

My wife has family like this. Most useless and out of touch people on the planet. Granola munching liberals.

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Privilege gonna privilege.

That being said, did you guys just watch our ice skaters? They scored the highest score by over ten points.

Vamos, equipo de EE. UU.!

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I almost didnt watch since it was ice skating but her use of the skirt like a bullfighting cape was outstanding

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Right?! That was impressive AF.

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Evangelical Christian Nationalist pastors use their pulpit for political messages all the time. What's the moral difference between that and athletes using theirs?

People just be complaining because they don't like their beliefs to be challenged.

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Not to say pastors are always right or even in agreement with each other, but they do generally spend lots of time thinking about their positions and how they can argue them logically, give guidance, and read scripture and other books to help inform themselves.

Meanwhile most pro skiers spend much of their day getting baked on a mountain. Most of their brain cells are dead from drugs, and they typically have very little formal or informal education. They have no real difficulties in life and have no idea how most of the world lives. I wonder how many illegal immigrants are allowed to "occupy stolen land" in Aspen and Vail?

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I agree with you. I also would be more inclined to listen to someone who probably has put a lot more thought into their positions. Colin Kaepernick put a lot of thought into his advocacy, too.

The inconsistency here is the shouting that is done purely against people for disagreeing with them. It's fragility to the core.

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And as stated above, if ICE was so terrible, where was this outrage during the Clinton, Obama, and Biden administrations when there were more illegals deported?

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That line really doesn't help your argument. What that quote says is that Clinton, Obama, and Biden were able to do it without the use of heavy handed tactics and weird talk of bravado with regards to rounding up illegals.

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You should have kept reading. This applies to you as well...

Only because extra budget and tactics are required because leftist localities no longer cooperate with Federal agencies and release illegals who had detainers. Heck, I saw this week that ICE even had their own office in some jails under Biden, but now are persona-non-grata under Trump. But you knew all this, didn't you?

They're all rich kids from Colorado. What exactly do you folks expect?

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I think this whole thread can be summarized with three words:

Liberals ruin everything.

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Pretty much this. They are children.

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The complete lack of awareness of how every other country operates is always interesting. You do realize you enjoy more freedom - as do those in our country illegally - than basically every other person at that Olympics, right? Apparently not

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some of you must be like 15 years old

because in EVERY SINGLE OLYMPICS where there is a Republican President this happens.

anyone remember Rapinoe and Trump?

George W. Bush and the Iraq war?

Reagan and Star Wars/ Pershing Deployment into Europe

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You can take this condescension and stick it. I was simply describing this titty baby and am not interested in another yapping

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Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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Your argument is "see? This entitled sports nepo brat agrees with me so communism shall triumph!"

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No, its that you repeatedly calling me a communist is what passes for debate around here.

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It's literally what you're pushing in your own words

"see?! This sports nepo baby agrees with me so that means the average American is ready for communism!"

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Literally pushing in my own words. That's an interesting way of describing something that I am not literally saying nor using my actual words. Just another maroon dawn strawman special

Which country is Gu Ailing representing this time around? I assume it is still China?

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Yawn. Got any good faith arguments?

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Your argument is "see? This entitled sports nepo brat agrees with me so communism shall triumph!"

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No, its that you repeatedly calling me a communist is what passes for debate around here.

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It's literally what you're pushing in your own words

"see?! This sports nepo baby agrees with me so that means the average American is ready for communism!"

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Literally pushing in my own words. That's an interesting way of describing something that I am not literally saying nor using my actual words. Just another maroon dawn strawman special

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So just to be clear: Do the rich kids from Colorado represent the views of the average American?

Insofar as they are questioning the tactics of ICE, absolutely. The polls and actual voters are bearing this out.

ICE is enforcing the law. If that was done from 2021-2024, it wouldn't be messy. Anyone who thinks they should back off should be put on a plane south with Jose and Enrique

The NHL has, by far, the highest % of conservatives.

My guess is the majority of the American team, including the Tkachuk's, are pretty solidly patriotic and pro-America. The Tkachuks are fans of MAGA too. Also, Bill Guerin, the USA Hockey GM and former Dallas Star, is a Conservative based on his political donations in the past. I know the families of the Women's players Bilka (TX) and Guilday (MN) personally and they are NOT woke or leftist at all.

There are several USA athletes who are not woke or at a minimum are not there pushing their political agenda and are worthy of your support.

The ones who have self identified themselves as Megan Rapinoe types indeed deserve derision and mockery.

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More WOKE politics

The woke Olympics. I’m out.

pic.twitter.com/KxkeUDKjPO

— Mike Sperrazza (@MikeASperrazza) February 7, 2026

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Shut up about politics. Go join the Dixie Chicks. You moron.
i can't stand US representatives bashing our country on foreign soil.

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This girl is from Plano. I guess if she feels like she's been mistreated in her life, she should take it up with the Indian, Muslim, and Hispanic communities that have overtaken the North Dallas suburbs.

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Evangelical Christian Nationalist pastors use their pulpit for political messages all the time. What's the moral difference between that and athletes using theirs?

People just be complaining because they don't like their beliefs to be challenged.

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Crapping on the country giving you the opportunity to represent and perform is just poor form.

And ticking off 30-50% of your potential fan base just isn't smart.

And you ignore this in my statement:

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of heavy handed tactics and weird talk of bravado with regards to rounding up illegals.

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That's what happens when POTUS, VPOTUS, and Miller antagonize half the country. Words have consequences.