Crockett vs. Talarico -> Democratic Primary for Senate Showdown

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shiftyandquick
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I wonder to what extent this caught Talarico off-guard. Of course I have been following Talarico closely. I don't know much of anything about Crockett, other than she has been outspoken, controversial, and pretty far left (correct me if I'm wrong). Which has led to her being a kind of minor star on the far left.

Talarico on the other hand is more centrist, practical, incorporates discussion of religious ethics and his own Christianity. Much more Texas-based, having been a state representative in the state government. A rising star in the Democratic Party in his own right.

It was a little interesting last night to read a FB post asking for money from Talarico in the wake of the Crockett announcement and the need to win the primary against her, and then reading the comments. Many people were saying "I wish I could vote for you both." Or, "you should now run for governor instead." Or, "I was going to send money to you now, but I regret to say that I will now be supporting Crockett." Who knows if these are actually real people or bots or disinformation actors.

A well-fought well-executed primary can make a candidate stronger. However will Talarico now have to hew left in order to win the primary? Or can a more centrist candidate win? The GOP has the same dilemma. Vote for far-right MAGA tainted Paxton, or "moderate MAGA" Cornyn?

My support for Democrats doesn't come from a place of "I love Democrats." It comes from the place of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I.e. anti-MAGA.

I will definitely be supporting Talarico.
Urban Ag
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Teslag
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Would you support Talarico over Cornyn?
John Fisher Pessimist
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Stopped reading after OP said Talarico was centrist

Edited to add a small sample of courses his seminary offers
David_Puddy
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No kidding. He is apparently shifty and quick when doing any sort of research on the guy.
Teslag
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David_Puddy said:

No kidding. He is apparently shifty and quick when doing any sort of research on the guy.


The OP claims to be a "Reagan republican" but Talarico is so far to the left of Reagan that it makes that claim entirely ridiculous.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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John Fisher Pessimist said:

Stopped reading after OP said Talarico was centrist



But he's so "reasonable" and "practical".
Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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David_Puddy said:

No kidding. He is apparently shifty and quick when doing any sort of research on the guy.

Well he admittedly "doesn't know much about Crockett", one of the biggest grifter, fake persona, and race baiter in the party. So there's that.

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PaulsBunions
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Cruz vs whoever wins this primary
MouthBQ98
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No Democratic politician can be a centrist because their platform has skewed so far left it doesn't matter and they cannot defy their large hard left activist base to openly or too often as they risk being primaried or having funding and support cut off. They get arm twisted into submission to their backwards-19th century leftist dogma, and the 21st century facade of modernity they keep applying to the core Marxism.
LMCane
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no one cares about your "deep thoughts" on which leftist communist to support.

real Americans vote Republican.
David_Puddy
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Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz
torrid
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I know he's popular here, but Paxton is incredibly polarizing. His being the GOP nominee would be the Texas Democrat's best opportunity to pick up a Senate seat in forty years, yet they are going to double down on Jazzy.
Sims
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Talarico isn't going to win the dem nomination by moving leftists further right, he's going to win the nomination by moving people who think they are moderate, further left.
PaulsBunions
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Teslag said:

David_Puddy said:

No kidding. He is apparently shifty and quick when doing any sort of research on the guy.


The OP claims to be a "Reagan republican" but Talarico is so far to the left of Reagan that it makes that claim entirely ridiculous.


Maybe he's a "AWB ban and Amnesty for Illegals" Reagan Republican
PaulsBunions
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David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz


Whoops, that'll be closer then.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Sims said:

Talarico isn't going to win the dem nomination by moving leftists further right, he's going to win the nomination by moving people who think they are moderate, further left.


Moderates always move things farther left. A vote for a "centrist" is a vote for a liberal. Slapping the "moderate" logo on them just makes people feel better about it.
David_Puddy
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PaulsBunions said:

David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz


Whoops, that'll be closer then.


Against Crockett? Nah
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz


Unfortunately, you are right that it will be Cornyn. Many of us here will vote against him in the primary, but for some reason the people in this state love their RINO's.
PaulsBunions
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Cornyn is a dud from a bygone era. He'll will win because he's got an R next to his name but he generally sucks
Teslag
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PaulsBunions said:

David_Puddy said:

Cornyn will be the opponent, not Cruz


Whoops, that'll be closer then.


Cornyn is more popular in Texas than Cruz (and I love Cruz). He will win in a landslide.
Urban Ag
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PaulsBunions said:

Cornyn is a dud from a bygone era. He'll will win because he's got an R next to his name but he generally sucks

Yep. Frustrating as hell that the old guard simply will not step down and support a Gen X candidate moving up. Texas GOP has to get ahead of this. We keep running races with 30 year age gaps we will lose eventually. Bad party leadership.
PaulsBunions
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Isn't Cornyn currently behind Paxton in the polls? Idk if he's as popular as you say
backintexas2013
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He is an idiot and not a centrist. He is going to lose to Crockett bigly. I am sure you will then support Crockett. As a leftist you will love her.

YouBet
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I still can't understand your illogical takes on here.

So your position is that Reagan would have moved left with the overall spectrum the last few decades to the point of *******izing Christian belief like Talarico is doing?

Because voting for a 2025 Democrat is not remotely equivalent to voting for a 1984 Republican yet your position is that it is.

What is your thought process here?
David_Puddy
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PaulsBunions said:

Isn't Cornyn currently behind Paxton in the polls? Idk if he's as popular as you say


Yeah, I think that will be a pretty tight primary
AgGrad99
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Talarico is doing a great job of convincing people he's a pragmatic politician, when his record says anything but.

He's a true throw-back politician (con-man).

My skin crawls when he talks about his faith. He desperately wants the Bible-belt vote, so he just changes the meaning...problem solved....'his' faith.

For some reason, people have lost the ability to think critically, and weigh a person's comments against their actions. They just vote for good/motivational speakers.
DallasAg 94
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shiftyandquick said:


My support for Democrats doesn't come from a place of "I love Democrats." It comes from the place of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I.e. anti-MAGA.

I will definitely be supporting Talarico.

You were a Democrat before Trump ran for president in 2016, correct?

If so... "You love Democrats." The idea you know about Talarico and support him, indicates you are a committed Leftist.

I find it hard to believe you don't know anything about Crockett. Maybe you don't know as much about her as you have studied Talarico, but even I know Crockett and I'm in DFW and find Democrats to be ... insufficient in reason and idea. She is the poster of the Democrat Party.

Both will lose. Talarico offers as much Christian perspective as Mitt Romney.
Teslag
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PaulsBunions said:

Isn't Cornyn currently behind Paxton in the polls? Idk if he's as popular as you say


Primary polls it's neck and neck. But in the general Cornyn excels because he doesn't turnoff independents and some old school yellow dog democrats that vote republican
Canyon99
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AgGrad99 said:

Talarico is doing a great job of convincing people he's a pragmatic politician, when his record says anything but.

He's a true throw-back politician (con-man).

My skin crawls when he talks about his faith. He desperately wants the Bible-bet vote, so he just changes the meaning...problem solved....'his' faith.

For some reason, people have lost the ability to think critically, and weigh a person's comments against their actions. They just vote for good/motivational speakers.


100% correct.
TexAgs91
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For dems, insanity always wins over logic
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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torrid
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Teslag said:

PaulsBunions said:

Isn't Cornyn currently behind Paxton in the polls? Idk if he's as popular as you say


Primary polls it's neck and neck. But in the general Cornyn excels because he doesn't turnoff independents and some old school yellow dog democrats that vote republican

But he's got to make it through the primary. And Sheila Jackson Crockett would make Paxton competitive in the general election.
Canyon99
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Surely Crockett wins the primary, right? She is much higher on the DEI ladder but he might jump a rung or two when he comes out of the closet.
shiftyandquick
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austinAG90 said:

Doesn't know anything about Crockett. Everyone knows who Crockett is. Your candidate I have no idea, but then again I don't follow Dems other than for comic relief.

Tell us your a troll without saying it.

The only place I hear about Crockett is here on Texags. And I haven't paid attention to those threads.

Why? The reason I suspect is that the far right media uses her as a foil. So if you follow far right media, then you've seen a lot about her. Whereas the left/centrist media does not talk about her very much at all.

I don't follow far right media.

Another example is this: how come so many MAGA people here claimed to have never heard of Fuentes? I had seen LOTS of stuff on Fuentes prior to Kirk's death. Because the left/centrists use Fuentes as a foil and warn about the danger of his ideology. Whereas right wing media (until recently) pretended like he didn't exist, and certainly didn't warn their consumers about him.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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I wish Cornyn would just go away already. It sucks we continually get stuck voting for that RINO because of a bunch of squishy independents that vote in the primary. The Texas Republican Party is a joke. A bunch of democrats in sheep's clothing.
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