Sen. Mark Kelly

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HarleySpoon
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I read it as he thought there is an ocean in Arizona which has a tide to turn.
jja79
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Both. We have a lot of Californians here but it seems we get the ones trying to get away from the liberal mess there. Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming and Montana are getting the crazies I think. Charlie Kirk really helped register and enlighten a lot of people here.

This is an amazing place to live and I hope it continues.
jja79
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Not sure what point you keep trying to make or if you live here and disagree with me.
boulderaggie
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Yep. Colorado gets nuttier every day.
jja79
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I'm seeing more and more Colorado plates here.
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jja79 said:

Not sure what point you keep trying to make or if you live here and disagree with me.

You said: "I think the tide is turning in Arizona."

There is not an ocean in Arizona...there is no tide that can be turned....geez, you live there, you should know that .

So I said: " I think George Strait has something he wants to sell you."

One of George Strait's most popular songs is "Ocean Front Property" which chorus goes:

" I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
From my front porch, you can see the sea
I've got some ocean front property in Arizona
If you'll buy that, I'll throw the Golden Gate in free"

jja79
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I know the song. Sorry you took tide so literally. I think you probably do know it's a common term that is used for things other than actual oceans.
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jja79 said:

8 know the song. Sorry you took tide so literally. I think you probably do know it's a common term that is used for things other than actual oceans.


An explanation for the 7 year old age group is sometimes necessary.
jja79
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Wait until I tell him it's 60 miles from the Arizona border to the white sand beaches and azure waters of the Gulf of California between Baja and the Mexican mainland - Arizona's beaches.
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LMCane
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too much winning!!!

bust him down to Lt Commander!

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Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) fired back at Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over his threat to demote the senator's military rank on Monday following the Pentagon's investigation, saying he "will fight this with everything I've got."
Kelly said Hegseth wants to send a message to every U.S. service member that if they say something the Pentagon head or President Trump does not like, they will "come after them the same way."

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"It's outrageous and it is wrong. There is nothing more un-American than that. If Pete Hegseth, the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in our country's history, thinks he can intimidate me with a censure or threats to demote me or prosecute me, he still doesn't get it," Kelly said Monday in a statement on social platform X.
"I will fight this with everything I've got not for myself, but to send a message back that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump don't get to decide what Americans in this country get to say about their government," he added.

Yeah, good luck with that.

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https://x.com/
ExUmbrisDesigns/status/2008244781688754624?s=20

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There is an old saying Mark, you may even be familiar with it.

A man can build a thousand bridges and suck one ****, but he will always be remembered as a **** sucker and not a bridge builder.

Same can be said for space missions and acts of sedition.

Hope your dress blues still fit.


Edited as to not get it deleted
KerrAg76
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George the bridge builder.
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...Pete Hegseth, the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in our country's history, thinks he can intimidate me with a censure or threats to demote me or prosecute me, he still doesn't get it," Kelly said ...

Unqualified?

Like it or not - "Operation Absolute Resolve" to enter and capture -not kill...that would have been easy - and return to the U.S. the of Venezuelan President Nicols Maduro without one U.S. casualty or loss of equipment says Mark Kelly is an idiot.
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These people talk so tough man.

Maybe next time try not telling people to stop following the Constitution.

If he actually meant it, he'd retire his pension
LMCane
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aggiehawg said:

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Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) fired back at Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over his threat to demote the senator's military rank on Monday following the Pentagon's investigation, saying he "will fight this with everything I've got."
Kelly said Hegseth wants to send a message to every U.S. service member that if they say something the Pentagon head or President Trump does not like, they will "come after them the same way."

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"It's outrageous and it is wrong. There is nothing more un-American than that. If Pete Hegseth, the most unqualified Secretary of Defense in our country's history, thinks he can intimidate me with a censure or threats to demote me or prosecute me, he still doesn't get it," Kelly said Monday in a statement on social platform X.
"I will fight this with everything I've got not for myself, but to send a message back that Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump don't get to decide what Americans in this country get to say about their government," he added.

Yeah, good luck with that.

LINK


Hegseth LITERALLY told Kelly that he will be held responsible for any future public statements going against the UCMJ

my guess is "you are the most unqualified SecDef in history" will get Kelly a few more demotions!!
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“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
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“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
Kenneth_2003
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Genuine question...
His comments about Hegseth being unqualified got me looking...
Hegseth is a Major O-4 with the USMC
Kelly is a Ret. Capt. in the Navy. Navy uses weird rank names but a Navy Captian is O-6 and comparable to a Colonel in the Army or MC.

Here's my question. If you look up Kelly's Naval career he served 1986 -- 2011. BUT he joined NASA and the Astronaut Corps in 1996. I presume he continued promotion once an Astronaut as there is NO WAY IN HELL he made O-6 10 years in. He would have I presume at best been a Lt. Cmdr O-4 at 10 years and maybe running a an air wing?

So based on military career and experience I'm guessing he's roughly on par with Sec War, but why are the Astronauts allowed to continue their military careers and especially continue promotion?
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Always been that way since the days of John Glenn and the Mercury 7. They are military personnel with an assignment to NASA.
Kenneth_2003
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So they're courtesy promotions...

Don't get me wrong flying the space shuttle is fully and totally freaking cool. But that doesn't make you a better or more qualified War fighter.
BQ78
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Neither does being a doctor but the military needs them.

Getting into the astronaut corps is harder and takes more than being promoted to colonel. I've only done one of them personally.
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Ulysses90
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Genuine question...
His comments about Hegseth being unqualified got me looking...
Hegseth is a Major O-4 with the USMC
Kelly is a Ret. Capt. in the Navy. Navy uses weird rank names but a Navy Captian is O-6 and comparable to a Colonel in the Army or MC.

Here's my question. If you look up Kelly's Naval career he served 1986 -- 2011. BUT he joined NASA and the Astronaut Corps in 1996. I presume he continued promotion once an Astronaut as there is NO WAY IN HELL he made O-6 10 years in. He would have I presume at best been a Lt. Cmdr O-4 at 10 years and maybe running a an air wing?

So based on military career and experience I'm guessing he's roughly on par with Sec War, but why are the Astronauts allowed to continue their military careers and especially continue promotion?


It's a minor point but Hegseth was an Army Major.

To the point of your question, once a uniformed service member goes to the astronaut program, they will almost certainly get promoted along with their year group of officers in their branch of service. They are considered water-walkers to have been selected for the astronaut program so they don't get left behind. There's also the fact that having an astronaut is a point of pride for the service. Passing over an astronaut for promotion would be a strong disincentive for any officer to apply. That's pretty much the explanation for why Charlie Bolden went to NASA as. Major in 1980 and returned 14 years later as. Brigadier General.
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When I worked for Salesforce, I knew then when they had Kelly on stage with Mark Cuban that he was a liberal POS. This was before we found out what a liberal POS he is.
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My bad. I don't know why I thought he was USMC.

But definitely a courtesy promotion
12th Man
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During the Gemini & Apollo programs, the Navy practice was to promote any astronaut one grade after each space flight, irrespective of year-group or time in-grade. Gene Cernan, whose actual badassery was so pronounced that it very nearly mirrored his self-image, benefitted greatly from this. Dude made Captain in record time.
 
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