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100% correct. And I think it goes back to MAGA. The problem is that Trump is not conservative.

He just wants to prop himself up, even if that means abandoning conservative ideals.

He is a liberal, but MAGA thinks he isn't.

Just look at the posts on this page on Cheney's death. He's the most conservative VP we have had in my lifetime and people on this board hate him.

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You're lost. Turns out that Cheney is just a profiteer. He proved that he had no principles. The Bushes and Cheneys are just swamp creatures who sold out the country to advance their own financial interests.

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Having to use "swamp creatures" tells me all I need to know about how much of the Trump koolaid you've drank.

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I used to not mind Tucker, but it seems like he's flipped a switch to holding completely outlandish takes. I didn't listen to the Nick Fuentes od, but I did listen to him on PBD's podcast to know enough about him. Nick is the type of guy that the more of a platform that he gets, the more the media will propagate all of the uneducated into thinking that all Republicans are basically him.

I honestly think that both Tucker and Candace have been paid handsomely by someone to create a divide among the party. It sucks because as crazy and far left as the Democratic party has become, their major voices/influencers are at least unified into turning our country into complete crap. When is the last time anyone has heard a prominent Democrat voice denounce Sharia Law, the invasion of Muslims/Islam, their party pandering to illegals, transgender ideology, etc? Bill Maher is about the only one I've seen do it on a regular basis but his version of a Democrat is dying a slow death.

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100% correct. And I think it goes back to MAGA. The problem is that Trump is not conservative.

He just wants to prop himself up, even if that means abandoning conservative ideals.

He is a liberal, but MAGA thinks he isn't.

Just look at the posts on this page on Cheney's death. He's the most conservative VP we have had in my lifetime and people on this board hate him.

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Dick Cheney is murderous scumbag.

Your takes are dog *****

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I used to not mind Tucker, but it seems like he's flipped a switch to holding completely outlandish takes. I didn't listen to the Nick Fuentes od, but I did listen to him on PBD's podcast to know enough about him. Nick is the type of guy that the more of a platform that he gets, the more the media will propagate all of the uneducated into thinking that all Republicans are basically him.

I honestly think that both Tucker and Candace have been paid handsomely by someone to create a divide among the party. It sucks because as crazy and far left as the Democratic party has become, their major voices/influencers are at least unified into turning our country into complete crap. When is the last time anyone has heard a prominent Democrat voice denounce Sharia Law, the invasion of Muslims/Islam, their party pandering to illegals, transgender ideology, etc? Bill Maher is about the only one I've seen do it on a regular basis but his version of a Democrat is dying a slow death.

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100% correct. And I think it goes back to MAGA. The problem is that Trump is not conservative.

He just wants to prop himself up, even if that means abandoning conservative ideals.

He is a liberal, but MAGA thinks he isn't.

Just look at the posts on this page on Cheney's death. He's the most conservative VP we have had in my lifetime and people on this board hate him.

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Dick Cheney is murderous scumbag.

Your takes are dog *****

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I assume you had the same takes when he was in office?

Stop with the dramatic whining.

Cheney is not murderous. You libs are hilarious!

Now, scumbag is a matter of opinion.

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Stop with the dramatic whining.

Cheney is not murderous. You libs are hilarious!

Now, scumbag is a matter of opinion.

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I'm definitely not a lib and was once a massive Bush/Cheney defender.

Facts are facts. 100's of thousands of people are now dead so that piece of **** can line his pockets. He's a scumbag.

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Facts are facts. 100's of thousands of people are now dead so that piece of **** can line his pockets.

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Not a Lib, but push their lies. I guess that's better in your eyes?

HALLIBUREEEEEEEEETON!!!!

I think it's funny seeing everyone flounder around confused because their worldview is being rejected wholesale. This forum has no clue what is occurring among the youth because you all don't associate with the sections of the internet they use and vice versa. You live in entirely different worlds now.

You sure know a lot about this forum for having just joined yesterday!

Is a Red Herring a bird, or fish?

Im Gipper said:

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You sure know a lot about this forum for having just joined yesterday!

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By his own admission from his previous sock, he's been banned over 50 times since 2016.

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Facts are facts. 100's of thousands of people are now dead so that piece of **** can line his pockets.

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Not a Lib, but push their lies. I guess that's better in your eyes?

HALLIBUREEEEEEEEETON!!!!

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Lies? Why did he drag us into a war with a country that had no WMDs and had nothing to do with 9/11?

It actually shocks me we still have "conervatives" defending this. Cognitive dissonance is a *****.

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You sure know a lot about this forum for having just joined yesterday!

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Bustup = Stone Choir = Nothing ever Happens


Lord, it's a miracle !

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Having to use "swamp creatures" tells me all I need to know about how much of the Trump koolaid you've drank.

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You would be extremely mistaken.

I am politically savvy. I know that Trump is not conservative on many issues at all. George W. Bush claimed to be, yet he governed much more liberally than Trump has. And his father was farther left. The Bushes have no principles. Everything they did was for themselves.

I do not agree with all of Trump's principles, but he is absolutely doing what he believes is in America's best interest, not what is best for his own family.

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Lies? Why did he drag us into a war with a country that had no WMDs and had nothing to do with 9/11?

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The ENTIRE WORLD thought they had WMD's. You think Cheney fooled them all, planted all the intelligence, all to make a profit? You cannot be serious. This is straight out of John Kerry's talking points.

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Mark Levin and a couple of guys in association with him are making a hard push.

Listening to his speech a few days ago.. This is not okay.

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This thread needs to be cancelled until OP can provide a lot more context, examples, and analysis.

"a couple of guys"?

"I saw a speech the other day"?

Really? That's pretty pathetic.

Yes, some of the usual board liberals have bitten off, but I don't expect much from them anyway.

But I would expect much more of normal posters.

John kiriakou talks about this in a podcast how even the CIA was wondering wth was going on with going into iraq instead of their primary objective which was osama in afghanistan. Hindsight being 20/20, iraq was a massive mistake just like libya. Americans have no business in the ME.

because you are clueless about what "cancel culture" actually is.

when a literal Nazi is given a platform to spew their BS on a popular podcast that is NOT cancel culture.

when millions of REAL conservatives state we shouldn't be giving literal Nazis a platform on popular podcasts- THAT is freedom of speech and not cancel culture.

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Lies? Why did he drag us into a war with a country that had no WMDs and had nothing to do with 9/11?

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The ENTIRE WORLD thought they had WMD's. You think Cheney fooled them all, planted all the intelligence, all to make a profit? You cannot be serious. This is straight out of John Kerry's talking points.

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That's revisionist history. Many countries came out against the war because their intelligence was better then ours. Remember freedom fries?

Even our own intelligence was much more muddled at the time. If you compare the WMD fiasco and the Russian Collusion fiasco with impartiality, you would have to admit how disturbing the parrellels are. In both circumstances, the powers that be ignored counter narratives so they could lean into the false narrative they wanted to be true for their own personal gain.

You can't call Cheney a conservative when he voted for Kamala. She's not some Kennedy or even Clinton Democrat. She was the furthest left Senator in her time in the Senate, a complete moron, and represents today's version of Democrats which are Marxists. Its OK if Cheney didn't like Trump, but trying to hand the country to far left radicals is the last thing a so called conservative would do.

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Looks like there is mounting pressure to cancel Tucker. We should stand for free speech and debate. The free marketplace of ideas. Let the debate and talk rule, not cancel culture.

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Because everyone is a hypocrite if it supports their side

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Having to use "swamp creatures" tells me all I need to know about how much of the Trump koolaid you've drank.

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You would be extremely mistaken.

I am politically savvy. I know that Trump is not conservative on many issues at all. George W. Bush claimed to be, yet he governed much more liberally than Trump has. And his father was farther left. The Bushes have no principles. Everything they did was for themselves.

I do not agree with all of Trump's principles, but he is absolutely doing what he believes is in America's best interest, not what is best for his own family.

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I guess we will agree to disagree.

I think both Bushes were far more conservative than Trump. They weren't perfect, but they were conservatives.

Trump is not.

And he has enriched himself and his family far more than the Bushes. His sons have become literal billionaires as a result of him being in office. Bush is no billionaire. Trump was also on the brink of financial collapse in 2024.

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I think both Bushes were far more conservative than Trump. They weren't perfect, but they were conservatives.

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W was so conservative that they voted for Clinton and harris? Does not compute.

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I think both Bushes were far more conservative than Trump. They weren't perfect, but they were conservatives.

Trump is not.

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W was so conservative that they voted for Clinton and harris? Does not compute.

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I'm clearly talking about how he governed. But you knew that.

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I think both Bushes were far more conservative than Trump. They weren't perfect, but they were conservatives.

Trump is not.

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W was so conservative that they voted for Clinton and harris? Does not compute.

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Trump did more than vote for Clinton (Bill, at first, then Hillary vs Obama) he financially backed them with donations and spoke well of them, even calling Hilldawg a fine SoS.

Neither the Bushes, nor Trump, are conservatives.

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Im Gipper said:

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You sure know a lot about this forum for having just joined yesterday!

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Lord, it's a miracle !

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I'm not bustup. You're confusing me with him. Bustup was Catholic, I am not.

I wonder if you can get what my original name was here. I'll give you a hint, I've been around since 2001.

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I think both Bushes were far more conservative than Trump. They weren't perfect, but they were conservatives.

Trump is not.

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W was so conservative that they voted for Clinton and harris? Does not compute.

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Actually Bush 43 didn't vote for Clinton, Biden, or Harris. He openly stated he voted third party.

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There was another around at the same time he was. I'll give you a hint, it started with a V.

They weren't. Remember Bush and "no new taxes?" He lied to our faces. And Bush, Jr and Medicare part D and No Child Left Behind? And his attempt to grant amnesty?

They were moderate, at best. Trump governs MUCH more conservatively and puts America first.

Gigem02

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Let me tell you a little story about the Dixie Chicks.

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Boycott and consequences

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Gigem02

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No, wrong again. My original name started with a "V".

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Let me tell you a little story about the Dixie Chicks.

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. Please, they are now just the Chicks

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Never under estimate any of these type of folks of selling out.

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Why do you think Carlson defends Sharia law? Loves Venezuela all of a sudden?

Starts with a Q and rhymes with butter.

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I've been saying it wrong this whole time!