Heres a thread to discuss all things conspiracy:

Were people in the crowd signaling to the shooter?

Was there a conspiracy? Was it timed to happen with a particular set of questions?

Was the shooter whisked away on a jet shortly thereafter?

Was the first guy arrested a decoy?

Edit to add- the la times reported the shooting 1 day before it happened

Edit to add: Shooter used a .22

Edit to add x2- another country did it to cause chaos

Edit to add x3- Israel did it because Kirk was turning on them (lolz, even typing that out makes me laugh)

Add x4- the gun found in the woods was not the weapon used to shoot kirk



Get on it guys

Not much to say here, except I'm not really interested in the shooter. I am, but NOTHING like I want the organization, the planners, and the shot caller.

It might have been done by one person, but I bet it wasn't.

Im tired of such post cluttering up the two main threads and the conspiratrorial angle needs its own discussion. So I started a thread for it.

Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

waitwhat? said:

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

Of course, this board encounters some of those folks fairly frequently.

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It is pretty crazy how quickly some out on X (and here) were to blame The JOOOOOOZ.


As above poster said, why would they do that? What do they gain?

itsyourboypookie said:

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Israel is one of the only countries that could pull this off.

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Hilariously naive. Many countries could pull off killing someone.

Kvetch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

Of course, this board encounters some of those folks fairly frequently.

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My question is based on the comments Kirk apparently made about thinking Israel would kill him if he turned on them.

Lolz

waitwhat? said:

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Kvetch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

Of course, this board encounters some of those folks fairly frequently.

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My question is based on the comments Kirk apparently made about thinking Israel would kill him if he turned on them.

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Sounds fake or out of context, but either way Israel would have exactly 0 reason to assassinate him even if he whole-heartedly believed that.

Him "turning" on Israel would make him no different than millions of other Israel haters. His main constituency, the youth, are overwhelmingly anti-Israel. There is literally 0 logical reason to blame Israel unless you are searching for a conspiracy theory or are just an outright antisemite. Full stop. It makes absolutely no logical sense without vast assumptions.

Kvetch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Kvetch said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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They would release it and use it as a cudgel to end the war. But you'd have to be an all-time idiot to think Israel would have an interest in risking their diplomatic relations by killing Charlie Kirk, an ardent Israel supporter.

Of course, this board encounters some of those folks fairly frequently.

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My question is based on the comments Kirk apparently made about thinking Israel would kill him if he turned on them.

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Sounds fake or out of context, but either way Israel would have exactly 0 reason to assassinate him even if he whole-heartedly believed that.

Him "turning" on Israel would make him no different than millions of other Israel haters. His main constituency, the youth, are overwhelmingly anti-Israel. There is literally 0 logical reason to blame Israel unless you are searching for a conspiracy theory or just an outright antisemite. Full stop. It makes absolutely no logical sense without vast assumptions.

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Ok let me clarify... I don't think Israel assassinated Kirk. But on the way to work this morning I was thinking about those comments, and it got me thinking what IF they did and our agencies found out.

what's next this AI and him faking of his death so he could go Eddie and the Cruisers

or better yet rise from death on Sunday ?

To get the conversation moving-

The plane had nothing to do with anything- theres a jet repair facility there, and jet fly in annout all tje time

The guys signaling were kirks security

The first guy arrested is a well known kook

The guy reacting before the crowd is a nothing burger. Event hadn't started yet

Vest,- probably not, but its completely irrelevant anyway

What am I missing?

Trained assassin- doubtful any one trained would do it in front of 3000 people. Nothing this shooter did screams "trained".

I could see the first arrest being a decoy.

Why would he have been yelling "shot me shoot me"? He wanted to take the focus on him. Then he stalled more by getting on the ground.

I'd start there and work backwards. Phone records, videos, posts, bank accounts. He's not no one…he's just not the shooter

Im Gipper said:

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It is pretty crazy how quickly some out on X (and here) were to blame The JOOOOOOZ.


As above poster said, why would they do that? What do they gain?

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There is a country that is behind this, and it is the good old land of milk and honey. Either directly or indirectly through rhetoric or indoctrination the left of this country is responsible. Nothing more than that.

Assassin was a good shot along with a botched search/investigation, obviously the CIA was behind this.

(JK for the FBI/CIA staff monitoring this thread)

Hear are my crazy theories:


1. Professional hit(could be sloppy as well, see below) by the Right as to martyr Kirk and grow the movement. Hence the hit was very public instead of grabbing him in the middle of the night.

2. Sloppy hit by the Left (whisper in a crazy persons ear to do the dirty work). A public hit so it incites violence by the right to further the anti-maga rhetoric to make the poor candidate choices for 2028 more viable.

3. Aliens.

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I could see the first arrest being a decoy.

Why would he have been yelling "shot me shoot me"? He wanted to take the focus on him. Then he stalled more by getting on the ground.

I'd start there and work backwards. Phone records, videos, posts, bank accounts. He's not no one…he's just not the shooter

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That guy who immediately turned around and started cheering and pumping his arms. That is NOT normal. I mean, it's normal for godless hate filled leftists to cheer on death of their political opponents, but not when there could still be more shots fired and they are in the line of fire.

I hope he was questioned, at the very least.

EDIT: Turns out this guy was gesturing BEFORE the start of the event.

Who?mikejones! said:

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To get the conversation moving-

The plane had nothing to do with anything- theres a jet repair facility there, and jet fly in annout all tje time

The guys signaling were kirks security

The first guy arrested is a well known kook

The guy reacting before the crowd is a nothing burger. Event hadn't started yet

Vest,- probably not, but its completely irrelevant anyway

What am I missing?

Trained assassin- doubtful any one trained would do it in front of 3000 people. Nothing this shooter did screams "trained".

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Is this true? Guess everyone was just sitting down resting before the event and I confused t for people ducking?

RE: second bolded statement, what if the op was designed for it to be as public and shocking as possible? You don't think China, or a host of other foreign adversaries wouldn't want to sow that level of fear, chaos and discord?

I mean this had myself and everyone I know enraged like nothing we have seen.

I dunno. But that's what this thread is for

Shooter acted alone = no conspiracy.

Shooter accessed the roof from a outside stairway at grade level. Was able access the roof from there. Google Earth proves this.

Shot came from less than 130yds w/ a cheap but reliable bolt gun.

Kirk was wearing some sort of body armor. Round contacted body armor and deflected into his neck.

Egress was simple. Run across the roof and exit via stairs and into a wooded area.

There were only 6 university KK's on scene.

Not that hard to figure...

Shooter was nothing less than a psychotic leftist loon.

waitwhat? said:

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Here's a conspiracy question for you...

Let's say the US intelligence agencies find definitive proof that Israel was behind Kirk's assassination. What next? Would they make it public, or sweep it under the rug? If they did make it public, what happens between US and Israeli relations?

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Nuts. Kirk was a staunch supporter of Israel and close friend of Bibi.

False flag to galvanize the movement is not the craziest idea.
Once you get past the most likely / Occam's razor choice of lone deranged gunman option. Creating a martyr is not the craziest conspiracy theory

If you consider the 1-2 punch of Epstein files won't go away and row crop farmers are about to have unprecedented losses and farm bankruptcies; fanning the flames of the culture wars is not out of the question is a Government Asset killed Kirk

V for Vendetta is one of my favorite films so I can buy into a right wing govt creating a terroristic threat to grab power and galvanize their portion of the electorate

That being said most likely lone mentally unstable shooter that has actual skills with planning and a deer rifle

Iirc here on F16 some of the mass shootings during Biden Presidency were attributed to sleeper assets that were programmed to go off whenever things were going bad for Joe to distract and redirect the news cycle

Who?mikejones! said:

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Hwres a thread tondiscuss all thing conspiracy:

Were people in the crowd signaling to the shooter?

Was there a conspiracy? Was it timed to happen with a particular set of questions?

Was thr shooter whisked away on a jet shortly thereafter?

Was the first guy arrested a decoy?

Edit to add- the la times reported the shooting 1 day before it happened



Get on it guys

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Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away.

I dont think any of these are valid, just to be clear. Just tired of the same **** popping up everywhere couple of pages on the two main threads so started this one so posters can come discuss the conspiracies to their hearts content without mucking up the others.

I come here in hopes of being conspired by these conspiratorial conspiracies by conspirational conspiracists.

Some people on this site and others watch way too much tv. Off the top of my head, a couple of the goofy things I have read are that the shooter used a .22 and that there could be/was some syncing between the asking of the question about transgenders and the firing of the fatal shot.

Added to op

Martin Cash said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Hwres a thread tondiscuss all thing conspiracy:

Were people in the crowd signaling to the shooter?

Was there a conspiracy? Was it timed to happen with a particular set of questions?

Was thr shooter whisked away on a jet shortly thereafter?

Was the first guy arrested a decoy?

Edit to add- the la times reported the shooting 1 day before it happened



Get on it guys

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Put down the crack pipe and slowly back away.

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He made this thread bc the other was being bogged down by these theories. I don't think he believes them.

fasthorse05 said:

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Not much to say here, except I'm not really interested in the shooter. I am, but NOTHING like I want to organization, the planners, and the shot caller.

It might have been done by one person, but I bet it wasn't.

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Another way of looking at it is now more interested that a running record be kept of those that have so obviously outed themselves as anti-West Left Marxists. Its becoming almost unimportant what the shooter turns out to be, because what they exposed is its own ugly objective reality that is more than enough basis to say there is not much dialogue to be held with the Left. The Center Libs need to break with them.

Middle aged white leftist women across the country conspired to create an alternate reality comprised of trigger warnings and safe spaces. Over time, their postmenopausal hormonal empathy was synchronized to villify rational thought and debate. It got to a breaking point where peaceful dissenters were labeled "violent extremeist threats", and actual violent leftist assassins were celebrated.

A large herd of humans infected by the woke mind virus, controlled completely by their amygdala, with no functional use of their frontal cortex. Otherwise known as liberals.

They can be spotted in the wild, and must be approached with caution. There is only one cure for these deranged creatures, a stern backhanded slap.

Do those glasses help cure the woke mind virus or cause it?

is the 4chan dude correct in who he identified, the Valdez troon?

Sq 17 said:

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If you consider the 1-2 punch of Epstein files...

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Oh man, I forgot about the whole epstein thing.......WOAHHHHH!!!!!