Charlie Kirk Shot? [Note Staff warning on Page 1]

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Charlie was just a political nerd

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FobTies said:



Baby steps....

That's rather striking, and that doesn't look like a pose. He is shooken up about it. Van Jones, something like Bill Maher, has always somewhat disappointed in that so obviously not a dunce, and able to think about things, yet so hard to break out of their alignment with the the DNC agitation message enough to denounce the party leadership bomb throwing and stop just long enough to recognize Trump is a reaction and this is not a chicken and egg mystery how cycle started and very much predates 45th term, let alone 47th which is reaction to even more Left excess.

Hell, Van Jones can think Marxism holds some answers, that's his right if he can make his case. What resent is how the Left doesn't let Marxism's opposite make their counter case. That's not debate. Sounds like Charlie Kirk was prepared to just dialogue with him.

That's the ideal that has been so brutally obliterated and continues to be.
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Kirk's assassination was an religious assassination by one of lucifers minions and applauded by his minions in government, education, media and professional units.
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I don't care for Van at all but good on him for that segment. Honestly, authentic or not that message is desperately needed.
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This is absolutely incredible. To God be the glory!

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FobTies said:



Baby steps....

The polling on CKs assassination must be an absolute massacre. Just like it is for defending criminals, illegals, drug cartels, MS13 members, etc...

That's the only reason that these clowns would reverse direction so quickly like this.

This is dem's grasping at straws to try and recover for their insane and gleeful reaction to a *checks notes* political assassination.

This is where we are, I guess.
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I don't think Van Jones is faking there. There is even a bit of seen a ghost to his demeanor. Just an opinion.

Now his station, sure they will fake stuff along the lines presumed if necessary.
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titan said:


I don't think Van Jones is faking there. There is even a bit of seen a ghost to his demeanor. Just an opinion.

Now his station, sure they will fake stuff along the lines presumed if necessary.

He's an actor, he's trying to keep a job. He has lied more than anyone in media.
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You may be right. But don't think he is one of the ones that said something over the top about Kirk after killed, so his job is pretty safe.
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Van Jones is still going on about "both sides" there.
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titan said:


You may be right. But don't think he is one of the ones that said something over the top about Kirk after killed, so his job is pretty safe.

He has plenty like all the others, he has actual text from Charlie that would be used against him if he did try to smear him. Van is in protection mode. Lying scumbag that guy is, and watching him act concerned is disgusting. Van helped get a moderate assassinated. **** that guy ol boy
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I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I'm usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know.

I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…

He said the bullet "absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I've seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc."

But it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it.

I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied:

"It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed."

"His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he's like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too."

In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin.

Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.

Remarkable. Miraculous.
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if that is how it happened it truly is remarkable.
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ShaggySLC said:

titan said:


I don't think Van Jones is faking there. There is even a bit of seen a ghost to his demeanor. Just an opinion.

Now his station, sure they will fake stuff along the lines presumed if necessary.

He's an actor, he's trying to keep a job. He has lied more than anyone in media.


Van Jones has also gone against the left when it comes to Zionism and he supports Israel

so he is willing to break from orthodoxy on certain issues
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LMCane said:

ShaggySLC said:

titan said:


I don't think Van Jones is faking there. There is even a bit of seen a ghost to his demeanor. Just an opinion.

Now his station, sure they will fake stuff along the lines presumed if necessary.

He's an actor, he's trying to keep a job. He has lied more than anyone in media.


Van Jones has also gone against the left when it comes to Zionism and he supports Israel

so he is willing to break from orthodoxy on certain issues

He's a lying, compromised piece of complete ***** You're delusional of the last 10 years. You're thinking is a serious problem for the country. STOP IT
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So God stopped the bullet in CK's body so it wouldn't exit and hurt others?
If only God had stopped the bullet from entering CK's body in the first place.
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infinity ag said:

So God stopped the bullet in CK's body so it wouldn't exit and hurt others?
If only God had stopped the bullet from entering CK's body in the first place.


Gods plan is greater than your understanding.
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Regarding the magic bullet, I mentioned a weird black object on a frame from one of the videos and though he was wearing a lapel mic.

Then when it was pointed out he was using a handheld mic, then it made me wonder if again the bullet hit the mic firsts

No idea, but it would account for the black fragment, decreased velocity, and the theories on body armor and the way his **** moved.

That said, unfortunately there is video in almost all certainty that was filmed in very high quality and from very close. Both amateur and I imagine they film all these events.
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infinity ag said:

So God stopped the bullet in CK's body so it wouldn't exit and hurt others?
If only God had stopped the bullet from entering CK's body in the first place.


What if you found out in the afterlife that millions of souls were saved because of Charlie's death?

I don't know God's plan, but neither does anyone else.
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My understanding is that he used a handheld mic and a lapel mic, lapel for the video that TP puts out
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Roger that. My intention is not to start or spread a conspiracy, rather the opposite to provide a reasonable explanation for the shot not going through.

I will let the gun experts speak to the different types of bullets and amount of powder in those bullets that can be fired from the recovered weapon.
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redcrayon said:

BusterAg said:

oh no said:



The fact that he told multiple board members of Turning Point that he wanted Ericka to be the new CEO "if something bad happened to him" shows that Charlie understood that he was taking his life in his own hands every day.

What a sad, sad world we live in.

I wouldn't call it a premonition. A lot of these conservative guys have been threatened. They all knew/know it's a possibility.

It's not a premonition. I'm not saying it was some divine prophecy. I'm saying he understood the risk.
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No exit wound indicates it was deflected shot from a body armor hit, bullet deformed, tremendous loss of velocity.

When the bullet was still in him, under his skin, wasn't his bones that stopped it. And any doctor saying that is pretty damn sketchy or has't seen any gunshot wounds.
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FobTies said:



Baby steps....

Van Jones: "I disagreed with Charlie about EVERYTHING!" but "We were words not weapons guys".

This is the right message that the left should take from the legacy of Charlie Kirk. When Van Jones is the voice of reason in your party, it was time to take a look in the mirror a decade ago.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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BusterAg said:

FobTies said:



Baby steps....

Alex Jones: "I disagreed with Charlie about EVERYTHING!" but "We were words not weapons guys".

This is the right message that the left should take from the legacy of Charlie Kirk. When Alex Jones is the voice of reason in your party, it was time to take a look in the mirror a decade ago.

Van?
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Potato potata. Close enough.
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aggiehawg said:

No exit wound indicates it was deflected shot from a body armor hit, bullet deformed, tremendous loss of velocity.

When the bullet was still in him, under his skin, wasn't his bones that stopped it. And any doctor saying that is pretty damn sketchy or has't seen any gunshot wounds.


They (Erika and TPUSA) already said he declined wearing bullet proof vests and talking behind bullet proof glass despite increased number of death threats.

Stop. Deflected shot didn't happen.
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They (Erika and TPUSA) already said he deliced wearing bullet proof vests and talking behind bullet proof glass.

Deliced?
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Rebel Yell said:

BusterAg said:

FobTies said:



Baby steps....

Alex Jones: "I disagreed with Charlie about EVERYTHING!" but "We were words not weapons guys".

This is the right message that the left should take from the legacy of Charlie Kirk. When Alex Jones is the voice of reason in your party, it was time to take a look in the mirror a decade ago.

Van?

Sorry.

Some people are just unbelievable. Those two names get mixed up in my head all the time.
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I still don't buy the no exit wound theory. A 30.06 round packs a serious punch. The hole he bled out from was much larger than an entry wound.
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Think he means declined
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AgResearch said:

aggiehawg said:

No exit wound indicates it was deflected shot from a body armor hit, bullet deformed, tremendous loss of velocity.

When the bullet was still in him, under his skin, wasn't his bones that stopped it. And any doctor saying that is pretty damn sketchy or has't seen any gunshot wounds.


They (Erika and TPUSA) already said he declined wearing bullet proof vests and talking behind bullet proof glass despite increased number of death threats.

Stop. Deflected shot didn't happen.

But you actually believe bone, spine or skull can stop that round? Without deflection? In the neck?

99.99% of the time, that's a through and through shot.
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BusterAg said:

FobTies said:



Baby steps....

Alex Jones: "I disagreed with Charlie about EVERYTHING!" but "We were words not weapons guys".

This is the right message that the left should take from the legacy of Charlie Kirk. When Alex Jones is the voice of reason in your party, it was time to take a look in the mirror a decade ago.

I worry for Alex's soul if he truly disagreed about EVERYTHING.

And I think you meant Van Jones (as did I).
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BusterAg said:

FobTies said:



Baby steps....

Alex Jones: "I disagreed with Charlie about EVERYTHING!" but "We were words not weapons guys".

This is the right message that the left should take from the legacy of Charlie Kirk. When Alex Jones is the voice of reason in your party, it was time to take a look in the mirror a decade ago.


I think you meant to type "Van Jones" not Alex?
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