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I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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If you are really going to ignore student that email or message you on a Friday during regular hours, that's pathetic.

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Well, he could well be taking questions evenings, because that is when most students are doing their work. And is required to be in the office M-F 8- 5.

In my experience, most profs don't do a good job teaching. But that is not what they are rewarded for, particularly at research institutions.

But for the ones putting the teaching effort and teaching evening classes, it is a slap in the face. People don't like getting slapped in the face.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.

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you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

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Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.

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bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers

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20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.

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The one nobody is talking about is banning the sale of all hemp derived vapes.

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I never heard that passed in the special session.

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Thats because it wasn't in the special session.
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB2024/2025

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Nice back door ban.

Surprised more noise hasn't been made of this. Even the "high end" shops in Austin weren't talking about it.

Edibles and hemp flower still seems to be legal. Can't wait until everyone starts lighting up. I'd rather smell a vape over flower in public.

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Just going to force more black market. I tried an edible since I knew the only way to get more vapes is online. I didn't enjoy it. I had more trouble sleeping which made me foggy all day the next day.

The Ten Commandments goes up in every classroom tomorrow.

Hopefully this gets struck down. If a teacher wants to put up the ten commandment in their classroom, perfectly fine. Being compelled by the government to do so is anything but fine.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Yeah I don't even count my hours but luckily some is work from home time

For sure it will. But to say a teacher can if they choose to is disingenuous as that would surely have a lawsuit brought also.

Why take it out on the students though, I'd bet most of them don't even vote, especially for state elections.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.

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you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

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Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.

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bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers

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20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.

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you settled for teaching and now have accountability. its ok most of us work more than 40 hours and being salary get no overtime and have to answer calls check email and do work at all hours

Not everyone is like you. I believe this is in response to Covid abuses that were exposed and have continued the past 5 years. Plenty of professors not physically teaching with their online classes

What about high school teachers that teach online and in the classroom. For example, a few I know teach high school classes during the day and in the evening, teaching online classes. Are they expected to be available to their online classes 40 hours a week? If so, I'm not sure how they do that and sleep and have a family life.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.

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you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

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Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.

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bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers

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20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.

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you settled for teaching and now have accountability. its ok most of us work more than 40 hours and being salary get no overtime and have to answer calls check email and do work at all hours

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This is total crap. Ive always had accountability. I didn't "settle" for anything. I've helped bring in millions to Texas A&M. Your whole viewpoint is stupid right-wing hogwash. If rightists got their way, no one would ever go to college again and we'd be dead in the water for scientific research. Your not better than me just because you have a private sector job. I'm done defending educators. There's little wonder that A&M's education major enrollment has dropped so low, rightists have drilled into the public that teachers are leftists coming for your kids. Just driving Texas' education rankings even lower. Good job team red!

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What about high school teachers that teach online and in the classroom. For example, a few I know teach high school classes during the day and in the evening, teaching online classes. Are they expected to be available to their online classes 40 hours a week? If so, I'm not sure how they do that and sleep and have a family life.

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According to some here, they're lazy bums if they don't.

Senate Bill 12 requires parents to sign forms to opt-in for school provided healthcare. So if your child becomes ill at school and you don't opt-in, your child will not be seen by the school nurse. Also included is hearing, vision, and spinal screenings and first-aid.

So I shouldn't be able to set boundaries with students and expect them to plan ahead when they have work to do for me? Should I turn my Canvas notifications on so that I wake up when they send me a message late at night?

I'm just checking to see what parameters you would like me to follow.

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What about high school teachers that teach online and in the classroom. For example, a few I know teach high school classes during the day and in the evening, teaching online classes. Are they expected to be available to their online classes 40 hours a week? If so, I'm not sure how they do that and sleep and have a family life.

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SB 2615 requires that full-time faculty be on campus 40 hours per week (not necessarily in their office). SB 2615 grants several exceptions for remote work for employees, including when the employee

has temporary illness
has a temporary or permanent medical condition or disability requiring the institution to make a reasonable accommodation under state or federal law for the telework
is employed in a nonteaching position and certain additional conditions are met
is employed in a teaching position but is not a faculty member of the institution
is employed in a teaching position and is currently assigned to teach only a course or program that the institution has approved for remote instruction and is either designated for distance education or dual enrollment instruction
is employed as a faculty member and is on a temporary research assignment located off the institution 's campus
is employed as a faculty member who provides telehealth services as part of the employee 's assigned clinical, research, or instructional duties

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Senate Bill 12 requires parents to sign forms to opt-in for school provided healthcare. So if your child becomes ill at school and you don't opt-in, your child will not be seen by the school nurse. Also included is hearing, vision, and spinal screenings and first-aid.

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School nurses can't even give out bandaids without presigned parental consent now. Texas Republicans need to be held accountable for such crappy laws.

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Senate Bill 12 requires parents to sign forms to opt-in for school provided healthcare. So if your child becomes ill at school and you don't opt-in, your child will not be seen by the school nurse. Also included is hearing, vision, and spinal screenings and first-aid.

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School nurses can't even give out bandaids without presigned parental consent now. Texas Republicans need to be held accountable for such crappy laws.

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I'm interested to see how this works with athletics.

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What about high school teachers that teach online and in the classroom. For example, a few I know teach high school classes during the day and in the evening, teaching online classes. Are they expected to be available to their online classes 40 hours a week? If so, I'm not sure how they do that and sleep and have a family life.

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SB 2615 requires that full-time faculty be on campus 40 hours per week (not necessarily in their office). SB 2615 grants several exceptions for remote work for employees, including when the employee

has temporary illness
has a temporary or permanent medical condition or disability requiring the institution to make a reasonable accommodation under state or federal law for the telework
is employed in a nonteaching position and certain additional conditions are met
is employed in a teaching position but is not a faculty member of the institution
is employed in a teaching position and is currently assigned to teach only a course or program that the institution has approved for remote instruction and is either designated for distance education or dual enrollment instruction
is employed as a faculty member and is on a temporary research assignment located off the institution 's campus
is employed as a faculty member who provides telehealth services as part of the employee 's assigned clinical, research, or instructional duties

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So many loopholes, faculty will just ignore this.

I bet the same groups that had race based cookie sales and such will post videos walking by empty faculty offices.

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Senate Bill 12 requires parents to sign forms to opt-in for school provided healthcare. So if your child becomes ill at school and you don't opt-in, your child will not be seen by the school nurse. Also included is hearing, vision, and spinal screenings and first-aid.

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School nurses can't even give out bandaids without presigned parental consent now. Texas Republicans need to be held accountable for such crappy laws.

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I'm interested to see how this works with athletics.

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Probably have to sign an agreement in order to play, much like publicity releases.

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The one nobody is talking about is banning the sale of all hemp derived vapes.

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Thats because it wasn't in the special session.
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB2024/2025

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Nice back door ban.

Surprised more noise hasn't been made of this. Even the "high end" shops in Austin weren't talking about it.

Edibles and hemp flower still seems to be legal. Can't wait until everyone starts lighting up. I'd rather smell a vape over flower in public.

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Just going to force more black market. I tried an edible since I knew the only way to get more vapes is online. I didn't enjoy it. I had more trouble sleeping which made me foggy all day the next day.

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Really? That has not been my experience. All the D8 edibles I've had for winding down have been fantastic. Are you doing D8 or D9?

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Senate Bill 12 requires parents to sign forms to opt-in for school provided healthcare. So if your child becomes ill at school and you don't opt-in, your child will not be seen by the school nurse. Also included is hearing, vision, and spinal screenings and first-aid.

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School nurses can't even give out bandaids without presigned parental consent now. Texas Republicans need to be held accountable for such crappy laws.

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I'm interested to see how this works with athletics.

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When you sign up to play on the team, you sign the forms for parental consent to the trainers providing care. It isn't that hard to understand. Being on the team is a privilege, not a right. If you don't like the program, don't participate.

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One part of it is the text has to be "to induce a person to purchase, rent, claim, or receive an item." So your neighbor griping about you leaving the trash cans out doesn't fit.

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I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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If you are really going to ignore student that email or message you on a Friday during regular hours, that's pathetic.

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Well, he could well be taking questions evenings, because that is when most students are doing their work. And is required to be in the office M-F 8- 5.

In my experience, most profs don't do a good job teaching. But that is not what they are rewarded for, particularly at research institutions.

But for the ones putting the teaching effort and teaching evening classes, it is a slap in the face. People don't like getting slapped in the face.

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Read the post that I quoted again

He said OR Friday and then said his week will be done on Thursday sometime.
So his "I'll show them attitude" may have a negative impact on students that paid for his class and will have no impact on the politicians that he's shaking his fist at.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.

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you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

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Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.

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bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers

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WTF? That's some third-world writing **** right there. FFS.

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2025/09/01/thc-vapes-are-banned-from-texas-retailers-5-things-to-know/

druggies move to california

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I bet you typed that as you choked down another stiff drink of scotch, because alcohol isn't a drug, right?

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What are you saying? There is literally no difference between alcohol and opiates?

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A drug is a drug is a drug.

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I bet you typed that as you choked down another stiff drink of scotch, because alcohol isn't a drug, right?

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What are you saying? There is literally no difference between alcohol and opiates?

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exactly. a drug is a drug. see fentanyl and acetaminophen. caffeine and cocaine.

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Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.

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That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.

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Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.

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Working salaried in the private sector for a government contractor, coming off of a 5-day weekend because I spent 14.5 hours traveling one day last week…

I'm headed to work in about half an hour.

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The Ten Commandments goes up in every classroom tomorrow.

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Will short scripts from the Verdas also be posted? Because, you know, that would be fair.

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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2025/09/01/thc-vapes-are-banned-from-texas-retailers-5-things-to-know/

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exactly. a drug is a drug. see fentanyl and acetaminophen. caffeine and cocaine.

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Whichever floats your boat. Whichever is your drug of choice. Are there different "highs"? Yes. My drug of choice this morning is caffeine. Later this evening, hmmmmm.

Alcohol WAS my drug of choice. I take ibuprofen for aches and pains.

A drug is a drug is a drug. You just gotta know what are your limitations.

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Not all drugs are the same. We have evolved to handle alcohol. The enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH), which converts ethanol into acetaldehyde and thus the hangover, is present in our systems to save us from ourselves. Our bodies cannot tolerate other drugs in such an efficient manner.

I'm not in academics so I won't pretend to know how professors/faculty spend their time.

What I will say is that these faculty members chose to work for the State of Texas. The State is their supervisor and their supervisor mandated hour expectations for faculty. No different than if the company I work for wanted me to be at work for 40 hours per week and answer customers'/supervisors' phone calls and emails after hours and on the weekend. If you don't like it, you can go find another state to work in. It is really that simple.

No offense, but "A drug is a drug is a drug" is ridiculous thing to say. Some drugs are very different than others, as you acknowledge.


It's like saying a cat is a cat is a cat when someone asks "should I get a Siamese or bengal tiger as a pet"

This isn't a defense of marijuana, it's a defense of reality and common sense

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The new cell phones at school law technically starts today. But it has been enforced in most districts since the beginning of the school year.

Best law to come out of Austin in years. It is having an immediate positive impact on our kids.

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I agree with the impact of the law, but adamantly believe this is the state overstepping. This should be done by individual districts, not by state law.

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The new cell phones at school law technically starts today. But it has been enforced in most districts since the beginning of the school year.

Best law to come out of Austin in years. It is having an immediate positive impact on our kids.

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I agree with the impact of the law, but adamantly believe this is the state overstepping. This should be done by individual districts, not by state law.

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I don't disagree per se. But most school districts don't have the balls to do this. Only a select few had implemented this before the law. Now, school districts that wanted this have the backing of the state and can enforce it, or not, I guess.

I know some of the teachers in our district are not enforcing it, but it is a low performing school district already because of lazy teachers. Not all of the teachers are lazy, maybe not even most, but some just don't want to teach.