September 1st new Texas laws

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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TA-OP said:

The one nobody is talking about is banning the sale of all hemp derived vapes.

I'll be back in about an hour.

Need some time to count all the ways I COULDN'T POSSIBLY GIVE A ****


Don't use them. But quite the riveting addition to this conversation.

I envy either your pain free existence or your ability to cope with it.
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TA-OP said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

4 said:

TA-OP said:

The one nobody is talking about is banning the sale of all hemp derived vapes.

I'll be back in about an hour.

Need some time to count all the ways I COULDN'T POSSIBLY GIVE A ****


Don't use them. But quite the riveting addition to this conversation.

I envy either your pain free existence or your ability to cope with it.



I use gummies. But I don't think the vapes should've been outlawed. I'm an actual Conservative that believes in freedom from government nanny state losers.
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agsalaska said:

The new cell phones at school law technically starts today. But it has been enforced in most districts since the beginning of the school year.

Best law to come out of Austin in years. It is having an immediate positive impact on our kids.

Couldn't agree more.
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So my son is in 11th grade and he was complaining about one of his teachers he says is mean and he sent me this pic from her classroom. I asked him if the Ten Commandments was posted in the room and he looked and said no. I thought the Ten Commandments were required to be posted in a framed document on the wall of every classroom in Texas as of Labor Day.

Was there an injunction or something?

I don't care about the teacher's sign but if required by law I believe I will send an email asking when to expect them to comply.

Edit: I searched and the District is not one of the ones party to the injunction suit so they should be complying.


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Without getting into a debate over whether or not that law is constitutional(there is another thread for that), my guess is the school districts are just hedging their bets. I have not talked to anyone who expects that to ever actually happen. If it does somehow pass through the courts as constitutional there will be a mad dash to do it and do it right. But don't hold your breath before it plays its way through the courts(and yes I understand all school districts are not party to the injunction).

There is not a single school district that I know of in Central Texas that has done it though some individual teachers have. Individual teachers always have. But there has been no organized effort. Nobody expects the law to hold up.

And yes, you're going to say 'but until then they are required to and law is law and all of that and you are probably right. So go sue them and see how far you get.

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txyaloo said:

The Chair said:

I am visiting colleges with my daughter right now and in person classes is a selling point. She will not go to school, or at least I will not pay for a school, where it is all done online.

They aren't even going in to testing centers for exams. No proctors, no screen monitoring, no locked down computers. Most of his friends are using Copilot to cheat. Out of his 5 roommates, only 1 is actually not using AI to cheat.

Universities doing this should be ashamed and I hope more parents are like you seeking out in person instruction. Kids are missing a big part of the college experience staying in their rooms playing video games all day between classes.

Out of his 5 roommates, only 1 SAYS THEY ARE NOT using AI to cheat.

20% is way too high to represent the % not using AI. Self reported surveys are notorious for understating "poor" behavior.
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BIPOC are protected? As in from other BIPOC people? Because they are the ones doing the vast majority of the attacking and killing of everyone else assuming it's not a radical leftist, trans white kid.

I guess sane white kids are not protected and are on their own.
Troy91
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Commandments are posted in some districts.

Remember, the law requires the posters to be donated. My guess is that some areas have multiple donation offers and some districts could be slow playing which offer to accept.
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YouBet said:

BIPOC are protected? As in from other BIPOC people? Because they are the ones doing the vast majority of the attacking and killing of everyone else assuming it's not a radical leftist, trans white kid.

I guess sane white kids are not protected and are on their own.


I'm choosing to ignore the teacher's sign but am really curious as to her definition of the third line and what it means to her that the class "celebrate the LGBTQ+ Community". By my definition her expectation is that everyone accept and applaud that lifestyle and that seems to conflict with the second line "People of faith are respected".
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Troy91 said:

Commandments are posted in some districts.

Remember, the law requires the posters to be donated. My guess is that some areas have multiple donation offers and some districts could be slow playing which offer to accept.


The law says either a poster or a framed printing of the Ten Commandments. I'm sure some parents would be more than happy to print some copies and frame them.
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TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

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Old Army Ghost said:

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Mathguy64 said:

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techno-ag said:

Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.


That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.


Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.


Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.
you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.
bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers
20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.
you settled for teaching and now have accountability. its ok most of us work more than 40 hours and being salary get no overtime and have to answer calls check email and do work at all hours
This is total crap. Ive always had accountability. I didn't "settle" for anything. I've helped bring in millions to Texas A&M. Your whole viewpoint is stupid right-wing hogwash. If rightists got their way, no one would ever go to college again and we'd be dead in the water for scientific research. Your not better than me just because you have a private sector job. I'm done defending educators. There's little wonder that A&M's education major enrollment has dropped so low, rightists have drilled into the public that teachers are leftists coming for your kids. Just driving Texas' education rankings even lower. Good job team red!


People don't want to teach because the kids are awful.
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TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

Mathguy64 said:

Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

Mathguy64 said:

techno-ag said:

Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.


That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.


Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.


Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.

you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.

bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers

20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.

You wouldn't happen to have a lot of chalk, would you?
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Literally just got an unsolicited text for solar so this is really timely to see this thread. Gonna use my $5k for a vacation
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How do we add political texts to this law? Wouldn't mind an early retirement
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Extremist LOL
Troy91
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bonfarr said:

Troy91 said:

Commandments are posted in some districts.

Remember, the law requires the posters to be donated. My guess is that some areas have multiple donation offers and some districts could be slow playing which offer to accept.


The law says either a poster or a framed printing of the Ten Commandments. I'm sure some parents would be more than happy to print some copies and frame them.

Agreed. I can also envision a world where some districts won't prioritize that task.
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bonfarr said:

So my son is in 11th grade and he was complaining about one of his teachers he says is mean and he sent me this pic from her classroom. I asked him if the Ten Commandments was posted in the room and he looked and said no. I thought the Ten Commandments were required to be posted in a framed document on the wall of every classroom in Texas as of Labor Day.

Was there an injunction or something?

I don't care about the teacher's sign but if required by law I believe I will send an email asking when to expect them to comply.

Edit: I searched and the District is not one of the ones party to the injunction suit so they should be complying.





The implication of this sign is that straight, white, Christian, American males are the problem. (I include "Christian" because there's no way that's who the teacher is referring to by "people of faith").

The last line of that poster is predicated upon who is to receive the "kindness and empathy".
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A teacher at CSISD was told twice not to put the 10 commandments up or be written up as insubordination. Legal?

Is there a recourse that doesn't require a teacher to put their job at risk to confront the legal noncompliance?
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The opt in/out for nursing care is ridiculous. My wife is a high school nurse and has 1200 students to look after. They didn't know about this bill until last week and tried getting a notification to all the parents. The problem is our district is that a) we have a heavy Hispanic population and the notification went out only in English, b) the opt in/opt out form doesn't work on mobile devices, c) some families don't have internet or a laptop so mobile opt in/out is their only option.

She turns down more kids than she sees. She can't help most of them because only a handful of parents have opted in. While that sounds like easy street, it actually makes her job a lot more difficult.

I don't necessarily have a problem with the concept, but the execution was terrible. They should have given the schools until Jan 1, 2026 to implement this.
Double Talkin' Jive...
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Did she say why? Maybe they're already being threatened with a lawsuit, or have some other plan on how they're going to implement this.

Back to the no phones in school thing. My wife has said the emails from parents this year has dropped considerably. Normally by this time of year, she'd have at least a dozen emails from complaining parents. So far, she'd had two. The problem with kids with phones was when they'd get mad at a teacher because they wouldn't accept their late work or whatever reason, they'd immediately text a parent, and the parent would send an email and it would be in my wife's email inbox before she had a chance to sit down and check her mail. Now the kids mostly forget about it and figure out how to deal with it. This is also known as coping, and it's been something kids have been sorely lacking in the last decade. If this can cause students to figure out how to process and deal with their own problems, we will go a long way in making better citizens, and maybe even help with some mental health issues.
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Yea good point. Kids are having to deal with their own problem with teachers. Not a lot different than a new young employee at Academy having to work out a problem with the professional Manager.

Kids learn just as much at school that is not tested. Perfect example.
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redcrayon said:

TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

TA-OP said:

Old Army Ghost said:

Mathguy64 said:

Capt. Augustus McCrae said:

Mathguy64 said:

techno-ag said:

Professors in Texas have to be at their desks every day from 8-5. If they're leading an online class, they have to do it from their office on campus, not offsite.

IHIOGA that law is widely ignored.


That's not quite what it says. It says "40 hour work week" not 8-5.

This law was idiotic. More than that it was petty and shows just how little people understand about how colleges and faculty actually do their jobs.

I for one will show those geniuses in Austin. I'm not answering emails or texts for anyone including my online students in the evenings or Friday through Sunday after I hit my 40. Which will be Thursday some time.


Sounds like every other government employee. Try that in the private sector and see if you still have a job.


Spoken like someone who has no idea what college faculty do and when they work.

I don't need the Lege telling me to work 40.

I make myself available for students 9 A -9 P 7 days a week. I'm on campus 40 plus hours already M-R plus in faculty and committee meetings Fridays plus teach and interact with an online class where students ask questions in the evenings and weekend because, you know, that's when they work in online classes. So if they want to codify in Law that I work 40 hours who am I to tell them no?

This got run through committee the last week of the session without public input. The committee literally canceled it. It was petty. And they did this having no understanding of what college faculty do, how they do it or when they do it. It's pure politics.
you dont care about education. If you did you would respond to your students regardless of whay a lawmaker says. you are just a ideologue

Spoken like someone truly ignorant of higher ed. Name me a single private sector job that requires you to answer to 100 something students. Educators must set boundaries. Not sure what the penalty is for violating this law, but I don't know a single professor that sits in their office 40 hours a week and I don't think that's going to change.
bro your better not be education because you cant read. his boundary is he used to work outside regular hours for his students but now wontbecause he is a ideologue and wants to make students suffer because of mean lawmakers
20 years experience in higher ed, 15 at A&M. Just so we're clear, you believe people should be required to sit in their office for 40 hours, plus teach, plus department meetings, plus conduct research, etc. If you can't understand why this is stupid and why educators must set boundaries, just stfu.

And to whomever blamed indictrination, that's such a BS right talking point. It's not nearly as bad as you think or has been portrayed by right-wing media. And yes, I follow conservative radio. Most of us are just trying to do our jobs.
you settled for teaching and now have accountability. its ok most of us work more than 40 hours and being salary get no overtime and have to answer calls check email and do work at all hours
This is total crap. Ive always had accountability. I didn't "settle" for anything. I've helped bring in millions to Texas A&M. Your whole viewpoint is stupid right-wing hogwash. If rightists got their way, no one would ever go to college again and we'd be dead in the water for scientific research. Your not better than me just because you have a private sector job. I'm done defending educators. There's little wonder that A&M's education major enrollment has dropped so low, rightists have drilled into the public that teachers are leftists coming for your kids. Just driving Texas' education rankings even lower. Good job team red!


People don't want to teach because the kids are awful.
I routinely interact with students in the College of Education and Human Development, especially those majoring EC-6. Heck, I have 25 of them coming to my house tomorrow for an ice cream social. Earlier this year, I traveled with a group to Austin where they met with our local Reps and Senator. The students say nothing about bad kids. It is universally that they feel over-worked and disrespected. October is the month where most teachers just out and quit. It's roughly when they realize they're being over worked since there isn't a traditional fall break until the semester is almost over.
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itsyourboypookie said:

YouBet said:

itsyourboypookie said:

I know there's a texting law that gives you $5000 per text damages that doesn't clearly define what a customer is and is almost impossible for any small business to comply with.

What other laws kick in today?


Confusing. Are you saying that you can sue for $5k if you are not a known customer of a business who texts you?


Yes. Even if you originally opted in.

I have finance company who's been calling every day for a few weeks even after I thought I'd opted out. I'd love to sue them for every instance they've called.
 
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