Very interesting video about the state of things in Great Britain. The English flag, not the Union Jack, is being used as a political statement against tyranny. Pretty ironic and very telling. The police are losing the consent of the people to do their jobs. That means that since they are unarmed things are becoming more and more dangerous for your run of the mill cop. (The clip showing this portion is NSFW due to language) 1 in 5 Brits admit in an opinion poll that they would very likely take part in political violence if the nation declines further. 7 in 10 are very concerned that major violence is coming. Interesting times for our cousins.

Good. Western values are important and worth fighting for.

We will see if Farage is fos are makes changes when he wins.

is it going to be the Muslims + the British Government vs the People?

Crazy Times

Apollo79 said:

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We will see if Farage is fos are makes changes when he wins.

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He talked so tough for years.... and now that he is apparently on the precipice of power (polls show Reform will dominate) .... he is moderating his tone.

AgBQ-00 said:

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Very interesting video about the state of things in Great Britain. The English flag, not the Union Jack, is being used as a political statement against tyranny. Pretty ironic and very telling. The police are losing the consent of the people to do their jobs. That means that since they are unarmed things are becoming more and more dangerous for your run of the mill cop. (The clip showing this portion is NSFW due to language) 1 in 5 Brits admit in an opinion poll that they would very likely take part in political violence if the nation declines further. 7 in 10 are very concerned that major violence is coming. Interesting times for our cousins.

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Most people in the West are not aware of just how close the UK is to a violent and bloody revolution and/or civil war and perhaps even partition.

The Brits are our preview of what'll be hitting us in 2-10 years (depending which bits of Brexit and Liberation Day you homologize).

I have no faith the Brits will have the backbone required. Part of that is how their Parliamentary system works to be able to enact the changes truly needed. The no confidence votes would be swift and decisive.

Hope I am vastly underestimating them but I am skeptical.

Considering they have 20% of the population admitting they would participate in political violence is mind blowing. IIRC Successful revolutions typically only require ~10% of the population to be motivated to do such.

AgBQ-00 said:

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Considering they have 20% of the population admitting they would participate in political violence is mind blowing. IIRC Successful revolutions typically only require ~10% of the population to be motivated to do such.

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Yup. See the American Revolution and the Texas Revolution for reference.

Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

CDUB98 said:

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Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

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How did leaving the EU diminish British governmental power? Under consecutive "Conservative" governments and now the Labor (Starmer) government, they attained more and more power and became tyrannical to the populace and even have, in heavily Muslim areas, taken the side of the criminals and prosecuted victims who merely protest or react.

TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

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How did leaving the EU diminish British governmental power? Under consecutive "Conservative" governments and now the Labor (Starmer) government, they attained more and more power and became tyrannical to the populace and even have, in heavily Muslim areas, taken the side of the criminals and prosecuted victims who merely protest or react.

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Because the EU won't send money, nor bodies to quell any kind of uprising. The people know this.

Yes, they have grabbed more power, but that grab is what is pushing these people, and the people know there is no backup for their spineless politicians.

I visit the UK once/twice a year and I don't think that they'll be anything remotely close to a civil war or revolution.

The only time I saw English men pissed off enough to riot and break things was when some billionaires tried to break up the Premier League and create a new super Euro league.

They don't seem too bothered by the loss of their country as long as the games are played.

Brexit was a dog and pony show to perpetuate the illusion that the British people had any power or influence on the direction of the nation. The EU still runs the overall policy as evident by the identical overwhelming influx of immigrants in Britain, Ireland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, France, Germany, Belgium, etc... It appears as though Poland and Hungary are holding their own, but that may just be what I'm led to believe. I haven't been to either recently.

Bread and circus my friend. Bread and circus.

I was there in July, stayed in Victoria, did all the usual tourist stuff plus some lesser known in non-touristy areas. Some of what I saw, heard and felt was shocking. London has always been diverse given the history of colonization and the "Commonwealth" but 15-20 years ago the Pakistanis, Indians, and Caribbeans were BRITISH first and foremost, just of certain descent. Now, there are entire parts of London that are not British at all. I saw HUNDREDS of Muslim women in full burkas with faces covered within 5 minutes of Buckingham Palace…. they are not there to be English.

Britain and the UK as a whole are lost if they don't stop the immigration (legal and illegal) and start deporting those who are not assimilating to be British regardless of your religion or where you came from, that is fine and allowable but you must become part of the British culture, not be trying to change the culture.

The Labour Party there make our Dems look normal. They are bat S crazy. They coddle criminals, minorities, are crushing free speech, everything is hate speech or a hate crime, they have turned a blind eye to heinous organized criminal activity so as to not offend, they make excuses for migrants and criminals, etc., etc.

The current Monarch is a globalist and a traitor to his people and the Church of England, the latter being the worst of it. No head of the C of E should be referencing Islam in his EASTER message to Christians ffs!!!!!!

The people of the UK have voted and shown many times over they are AGAINST mass migration and the attacks / degradation of their culture, it's one of the reasons BREXIT happened, but the elected reps, Labour Party and current Monarch don't care and don't listen to or represent the people.

I have long been a fan and supporter of the British monarchy, but it died with Queen Elizabeth, and I foresee that in 10-25 years the Brits will vote to disband the monarchy entirely. This is not like Spain or Denmark where it is highly ceremonial and apolitical. The PM forms a government FOR the monarch, meets with the monarch, and advises and gets advise from the monarch (though the monarch does not have true legislative or government power the monarch has outsized political power and influence). If the King is not going to defend the native British subjects, defend and uphold the C of E, but just wear a funny expensive hat with jewels and tell the people to F off, the monarchy should be abolished. William will have about 5 years to revert course from his father or he may well be the last monarch ever.

CDUB98 said:

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TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

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How did leaving the EU diminish British governmental power? Under consecutive "Conservative" governments and now the Labor (Starmer) government, they attained more and more power and became tyrannical to the populace and even have, in heavily Muslim areas, taken the side of the criminals and prosecuted victims who merely protest or react.

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Because the EU won't send money, nor bodies to quell any kind of uprising. The people know this.

Yes, they have grabbed more power, but that grab is what is pushing these people, and the people know there is no backup for their spineless politicians.

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Don't be so sure Queen Ursula of the EU would not work to mobile a pan-European military response (heavily made up of Germans) to intervene. And don't be so sure there would not be responsive American involvement one way or another depending on who is in power here.

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I visit the UK once/twice a year and I don't think that they'll be anything remotely close to a civil war or revolution.

The only time I saw English men pissed off enough to riot and break things was when some billionaires tried to break up the Premier League and create a new super Euro league.

They don't seem too bothered by the loss of their country as long as the games are played.

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My daughter was there last summer - West metro London - and does not share your sentiments having talked to the locals there.

It's been ~800 years since the Magna Carta was drafted and King John was forced to sign away much of the absolute authority of the King.

Seems like the Brits are in a very similar position now where the government is tyrannical and cares not about the will of the people, and the people may decide to push back some. May. I have serious doubts, but at least have hope that it happens.

TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

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How did leaving the EU diminish British governmental power? Under consecutive "Conservative" governments and now the Labor (Starmer) government, they attained more and more power and became tyrannical to the populace and even have, in heavily Muslim areas, taken the side of the criminals and prosecuted victims who merely protest or react.

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Because the EU won't send money, nor bodies to quell any kind of uprising. The people know this.

Yes, they have grabbed more power, but that grab is what is pushing these people, and the people know there is no backup for their spineless politicians.

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Don't be so sure Queen Ursula of the EU would not work to mobile a pan-European military response (heavily made up of Germans) to intervene. And don't be so sure there would not be responsive American involvement one way or another depending on who is in power here.

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Like I said, it's a theory.

I'm not saying I'm right, but I do think there's veracity to it.

Jarrin Jay said:

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I was there in July, stayed in Victoria, did all the usual tourist stuff plus some lesser known in non-touristy areas. Some of what I saw, heard and felt was shocking. London has always been diverse given the history of colonization and the "Commonwealth" but 15-20 years ago the Pakistanis, Indians, and Caribbeans were BRITISH first and foremost, just of certain descent. Now, there are entire parts of London that are not British at all. I saw HUNDREDS of Muslim women in full burkas with faces covered within 5 minutes of Buckingham Palace…. they are not there to be English.

Britain and the UK as a whole are lost if they don't stop the immigration (legal and illegal) and start deporting those who are not assimilating to be British regardless of your religion or where you came from, that is fine and allowable but you must become part of the British culture, not be trying to change the culture.

The Labour Party there make our Dems look normal. They are bat S crazy. They coddle criminals, minorities, are crushing free speech, everything is hate speech or a hate crime, they have turned a blind eye to heinous organized criminal activity so as to not offend, they make excuses for migrants and criminals, etc., etc.

The current Monarch is a globalist and a traitor to his people and the Church of England, the latter being the worst of it. No head of the C of E should be referencing Islam in his EASTER message to Christians ffs!!!!!!

The people of the UK have voted and shown many times over they are AGAINST mass migration and the attacks / degradation of their culture, it's one of the reasons BREXIT happened, but the elected reps, Labour Party and current Monarch don't care and don't listen to or represent the people.

I have long been a fan and supporter of the British monarchy, but it died with Queen Elizabeth, and I foresee that in 10-25 years the Brits will vote to disband the monarchy entirely. This is not like Spain or Denmark where it is highly ceremonial and apolitical. The PM forms a government FOR the monarch, meets with the monarch, and advises and gets advise from the monarch (though the monarch does not have true legislative or government power the monarch has outsized political power and influence). If the King is not going to defend the native British subjects, defend and uphold the C of E, but just wear a funny expensive hat with jewels and tell the people to F off, the monarchy should be abolished. William will have about 5 years to revert course from his father or he may well be the last monarch ever.

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If there is a revolution, Charles may meet the same fate as his distant cousin Louis XVI or Nicholas II..... but for far different reasons.....

CDUB98 said:

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TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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TheEternalOptimist said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Oddly enough, if not for Brexit, I'm not sure they would have gotten to this point, perhaps.

Without the backing of the EU gov't, the British government has diminished power.

It's a theory, at least.

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How did leaving the EU diminish British governmental power? Under consecutive "Conservative" governments and now the Labor (Starmer) government, they attained more and more power and became tyrannical to the populace and even have, in heavily Muslim areas, taken the side of the criminals and prosecuted victims who merely protest or react.

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Because the EU won't send money, nor bodies to quell any kind of uprising. The people know this.

Yes, they have grabbed more power, but that grab is what is pushing these people, and the people know there is no backup for their spineless politicians.

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Don't be so sure Queen Ursula of the EU would not work to mobile a pan-European military response (heavily made up of Germans) to intervene. And don't be so sure there would not be responsive American involvement one way or another depending on who is in power here.

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Like I said, it's a theory.

I'm not saying I'm right, but I do think there's veracity to it.

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Fair enough. Your take may indeed be more correct. Time will tell.

AgBQ-00 said:

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Considering they have 20% of the population admitting they would participate in political violence is mind blowing. IIRC Successful revolutions typically only require ~10% of the population to be motivated to do such.

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Only 1/3 of the colonists supported the American Revolution at the time of Independence.

if 20% are saying they are willing to take part, I can almost guarantee that those that support it are well north of 33%

I wouldn't be opposed to it, in fact I have my popcorn ready!!

They at least put Harry out to pasture and aren't letting him back in and that was/is a good move. There is a real opportunity for William to reverse course, if he doesn't, the monarchy will fail.

aggiehawg said:

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I have no faith the Brits will have the backbone required. Part of that is how their Parliamentary system works to be able to enact the changes truly needed. The no confidence votes would be swift and decisive.

Hope I am vastly underestimating them but I am skeptical.

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Whats required is shooting

samurai_science said:

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aggiehawg said:

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I have no faith the Brits will have the backbone required. Part of that is how their Parliamentary system works to be able to enact the changes truly needed. The no confidence votes would be swift and decisive.

Hope I am vastly underestimating them but I am skeptical.

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Whats required is shooting

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By a populace without guns?

samurai_science said:

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aggiehawg said:

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I have no faith the Brits will have the backbone required. Part of that is how their Parliamentary system works to be able to enact the changes truly needed. The no confidence votes would be swift and decisive.

Hope I am vastly underestimating them but I am skeptical.

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Whats required is shooting

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That too. Population is disarmed. But so are the cops for the most part.

Britain is teetering AGAIN? Wow. How many times teetering is that now? Must be hundreds of times at this point when you consider the history of the British Empire.

It takes a lot to piss a brit off. But when you do they will el alamine your ass.