Trump admin to halt disaster relief to states/cities who boycott israeli companies

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Only article I could find with a link to the actual notices released by the WH can be found here:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-israel-companies-partners-dhs-funding-2108673

"The Trump administration will deny federal disasterpreparedness aid to U.S. states and cities that boycott Israeli companies, linking routine funding to its political position.

In grant notices posted Friday, the Federal Emergency Management Agency said applicants must comply with its "terms and conditions," which include certifying they will not cut off "commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies" to remain eligible for assistance.

In April, the Department of Homeland Security which oversees FEMA said states and cities receiving its grants are prohibited from boycotting Israel. And in July, FEMA announced that states must allocate part of their federal terrorismprevention funds to assisting in the arrest of migrants, another key administration priority.

The new requirement targets the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which seeks to pressure Israel economically to end its occupation of Palestinian territories. Support for the campaign grew louder in 2023 after Hamas attacked southern Israel and Israel launched a military offensive in Gaza."

Support for Israel is at an all time low and honestly I don't see how this helps
zoneag
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Nothing says "America First" like denying disaster aid to Americans because their state/local governments don't pledge fealty to a foreign country.
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zoneag said:

Nothing says "America First" like denying disaster aid to Americans because their state/local governments don't pledge fealty to a foreign country.

If boycotting Israel companies for American competitors, then you have a point.

But if they are sunshine pumping Ukraine, or Gaza, or any European nonsense, then they don't really have a leg to stand up on.

Either way, the fed picking winners regarding disaster relief is dumb and the process needs to be reigned in regardless.
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the most cool guy
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The democrats were already doing this to red states and communities without publicizing it. That doesn't make it ok though. I think Trump should have de-politicized disaster relief in this country instead of politicizing it further, and I disagree with this approach if the headline is actually correct. Oh well. Still infinitely better than Kamala.
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the most cool guy said:

The democrats were already doing this to red states and communities without publicizing it. That doesn't make it ok though. I think Trump should have de-politicized disaster relief in this country instead of politicizing it further, and I disagree with this approach if the headline is actually correct. Oh well. Still infinitely better than Kamala.


He could have easily just turned this on the Dems and said something like "Even though they play partisan games with disaster relief, the Trump admin won't" and cited that FEMA case from last year where they were avoiding Republican towns affected by the flooding.
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Yeah, bad Trump. Im all for America first and depoliticizing. This one stinks.
Science Denier
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I'm no lawyer, but I do take company training on anti-boycotting.

First thing I'm told is that it's illegal to boycott a country that's not under federal boycott.

If that is correct, then states are performing an illegal act if they boycott a country that's not under federal boycott.

I don' think states have the 'right" to boycott another country.

I did find This
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Under the commerce clause, a state cannot (without authorization from Congress), forbid its residents to travel to another state, nor tax such travel. It cannot prohibit imports from, or exports to, another state. It cannot tax products from other states in general, or from specific states, at a different rate or in different ways from products made within the taxing state.

So, if it's not legal for states to boycott a country and they do, then there should be penalties for that.
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zoneag said:

Nothing says "America First" like denying disaster aid to Americans because their state/local governments don't pledge fealty to a foreign country another religion.

FIFY
Im Gipper
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GOOD

If your state or municipality is going against the interest of America and its allies, you should not get aid.

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Im Gipper
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BDS he stands much further than "not traveling there"

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I'd rather have the penalty be related directly to Federal funding of state or local governments or programs not dorectly tied to dosaster relief. It seems odd that Trump would do this - I wonder if it is related to a specific state like Cali?
flown-the-coop
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These requirements have been there before as some of our contracts have included these requirements.

Of this is coming back up, it's because Biden quietly deleted the requirement, someone pointed it out to Team Trump and he said to put it back in.

And is Newsweek even publishing articles anymore? I thought they had gone defunct and were just an aggregator.
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MIGA

Bad Trump.
Im Gipper
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The new right aka Fake conservatives are not happy



Maybe this POS can focus on outing Mrs Netanyahu as a dude next.

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gbaby23
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This has always been a ridiculous concept. Israel getting special treatment for everything, like always.

They could have quietly put language that only applies to allies (that includes Israel) but they had to make a show of how Israel is more important than anyone else.
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Maybe that's because there's no concerted effort by Libs & terrorists to boycott the UK. Or Germany. Etc. etc.

Think before posting. Pro tip.

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Im Gipper said:

Maybe that's because there's no concerted effort by Libs & terrorists to boycott the UK. Or Germany. Etc. etc.

Think before posting. Pro tip.

Always the cope to carry water for a foreign government. If you want to protect allies, make it about allies.

Like I said, special treatment for Israel as always.
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Trump really seems to do everything he possibly can to fuel the "Trump is controlled by Israel" conspiracy theorists.
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Im Gipper said:

GOOD

If your state or municipality is going against the interest of America and its allies, you should not get aid.


What if Dems get control and take that stance with Iran?
jamey
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I usually make a personal decision to avoid companies that jump into politics. Thats how it should be.
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Tea Party said:

zoneag said:

Nothing says "America First" like denying disaster aid to Americans because their state/local governments don't pledge fealty to a foreign country.

If boycotting Israel companies for American competitors, then you have a point.

But if they are sunshine pumping Ukraine, or Gaza, or any European nonsense, then they don't really have a leg to stand up on.

Either way, the fed picking winners regarding disaster relief is dumb and the process needs to be reigned in regardless.



So...it was criminal when Biden .gov employees withheld aid based on political beliefs, but now that its being done to people with other ideologies, its fine?
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jamey said:

I usually make a personal decision to avoid companies that jump into politics. Thats how it should be.

American companies should put BUSINESS their first priority.

I had a great uncle who had multiple businesses (some ahem, illegal) across a few counties in Central Texas. He always donated equal amounts to both parties and both candidates that affected all of his "businesses" with the caveat to leave him alone. He was a major taxpayer, source of jobs, source of campaign funds. His employee base was sizeable, as well. Meaning he could persuade his employees to vote a certain way.

Granted that was back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s before his health began to fail but politics being local and businessmen wanting to just do their businesses without too much complication from government meant playing both sides. Made it easier for him.
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Ag_of_08 said:

Tea Party said:

zoneag said:

Nothing says "America First" like denying disaster aid to Americans because their state/local governments don't pledge fealty to a foreign country.

If boycotting Israel companies for American competitors, then you have a point.

But if they are sunshine pumping Ukraine, or Gaza, or any European nonsense, then they don't really have a leg to stand up on.

Either way, the fed picking winners regarding disaster relief is dumb and the process needs to be reigned in regardless.



So...it was criminal when Biden .gov employees withheld aid based on political beliefs, but now that its being done to people with other ideologies, its fine?

Nowhere in my post did I say any of what you insinuated.
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Im Gipper
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Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

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Keyno
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Im Gipper said:

Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

LMFAO "anti discrimination laws" have nothing to do whether a state chooses to do business with a foreign state.
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Keyno said:

Im Gipper said:

Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

LMFAO "anti discrimination laws" have nothing to do whether a state chooses to do business with a foreign state.


Learn the law.

How's that whole supporting Iran working out for you? That was a great look!

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Keyno said:

Im Gipper said:

Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

LMFAO "anti discrimination laws" have nothing to do whether a state chooses to do business with a foreign state.


It doesn't require a state to do business with anyone. It requires the recipients of federal funds to not BOYCOTT or otherwise discriminate AGAINST Israeli entities.

And it's been part of the contracts before years ago. You should probably do some research here or at least read the other information provided in the OP and other posts.

Or jump directly to Trump is muh dictator BS. It's entertaining if not just a tad pathetic at this point.
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Totally ridiculously bad Trump.

It was bad when Biden did it, it's bad now.

Liberals and their "feelz".
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flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

Im Gipper said:

Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

LMFAO "anti discrimination laws" have nothing to do whether a state chooses to do business with a foreign state.


It doesn't require a state to do business with anyone. It requires the recipients of federal funds to not BOYCOTT or otherwise discriminate AGAINST Israeli entities.

And it's been part of the contracts before years ago. You should probably do some research here or at least read the other information provided in the OP and other posts.

Or jump directly to Trump is muh dictator BS. It's entertaining if not just a tad pathetic at this point.


This + what happened to supporting our Allies? Israel has been consistently attacked since the Jews were given their land back. They're responding to an evil regime that wants to wipe them out.

I'm perfectly fine with a POTUS that stands beside our Allies.
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Pizza said:


I'm perfectly fine with a POTUS that stands beside our Allies.
and against fellow americans
Old Army has gone to hell.
zoneag
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Old Army Ghost said:

Pizza said:


I'm perfectly fine with a POTUS that stands beside our Allies.
and against fellow americans


MIGA republicans are always Israel first. Just look at their response when the Catholic Church in Gaza was shelled.
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Pizza said:

flown-the-coop said:

Keyno said:

Im Gipper said:

Trump says "you have to follow Federal anti-discrimination laws to get Federal money" and the usual suspects lose their minds.

LMFAO "anti discrimination laws" have nothing to do whether a state chooses to do business with a foreign state.


It doesn't require a state to do business with anyone. It requires the recipients of federal funds to not BOYCOTT or otherwise discriminate AGAINST Israeli entities.

And it's been part of the contracts before years ago. You should probably do some research here or at least read the other information provided in the OP and other posts.

Or jump directly to Trump is muh dictator BS. It's entertaining if not just a tad pathetic at this point.


This + what happened to supporting our Allies? Israel has been consistently attacked since the Jews were given their land back. They're responding to an evil regime that wants to wipe them out.

I'm perfectly fine with a POTUS that stands beside our Allies.


So to clarify, you support the federal government withholding disaster relief funds to Americans based off the actions of their political representatives?
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Im Gipper said:

Maybe that's because there's no concerted effort by Libs & terrorists to boycott the UK. Or Germany. Etc. etc.

Think before posting. Pro tip.


There's also no concerted effort by conservatives to boycott Palestine.

Because all they make is rockets and propaganda.
flown-the-coop
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Education and history can be found here.

Telling someone they cannot join forces with our enemies to boycott our allies in order for them to receive federal funds is a long standing bipartisan practice.

https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/enforcement/oac
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