Experts debunk Texas flood cloud seeding conspiracy theory after deadly rains

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Teslag
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Don't forget "Ukraine biolabs". That one is still an absurd fabrication.

*edit saw you included it
HowdyTexasAggies
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Francis Macomber said:

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Duckhook said:

Covid was the best thing that ever happened to the conspiracy theory crowd. Now they can frame every argument around "well, they lied to us about Covid, so they're surely lying about [insert favorite conspiracy theory here]"

The number of so-called conspiracies that have now been proven true is a longer list than just covid.
I find the standard of proof for finding something as "true" is pretty low with a lot on this forum.


Sadly for a lot of people on here the standard of proof is "do I want this to be true."


Has zero to do with this forum deciding what's true. It's been well documented across the US on all various lies proven to be true.

I'm am not advocating this theory is true, but the dismissive attitude shown here is the same as COVID.
GAC06
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Teslag said:

Don't forget "Ukraine biolabs". That one is still an absurd fabrication.

*edit saw you included it


No dude it was confirmed! Didn't you see the green check mark by it?
Teslag
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It's been well documented across the US on all various lies proven to be true.

I don't think a big collection of tweets is "well documented".
Rapier108
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Francis Macomber said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Duckhook said:

Covid was the best thing that ever happened to the conspiracy theory crowd. Now they can frame every argument around "well, they lied to us about Covid, so they're surely lying about [insert favorite conspiracy theory here]"

The number of so-called conspiracies that have now been proven true is a longer list than just covid.
I find the standard of proof for finding something as "true" is pretty low with a lot on this forum.


Sadly for a lot of people on here the standard of proof is "do I want this to be true."


Has zero to do with this forum deciding what's true. It's been well documented across the US on all various lies proven to be true.

I'm am not advocating this theory is true, but the dismissive attitude shown here is the same as COVID.

Because there is no proof whatsoever that cloud seeding caused the flood.

#1, the cloudseeding on 7-2 was 150 miles from where the flooding happened.
#2 Cloud seeding has been done for over 70 years. It is not a recent thing, nor is it "geoengineering." How it works is well understood, although its effectiveness is hit or miss.
#3 The material used does not travel hundreds of miles nor does it stay in the atmosphere for days. It lasts a few hours at most.
#4 The risk of severe flooding was predicted days before it happened. It is why the NWS office in San Antonio had 5 people on duty that night instead of the usual 2.

With the WuFlu, there was plenty of evidence to support things like the lab leak, or that certain people in the government were trying to suppress information, while others were exploiting it to their advantage.

People need to look at things on their own merits, not through the lens of the WuFlu, nor should they use the WuFlu to try to silence everyone else. Funny thing is that is how the media and Democrats operated in 2020, and now the people who rail about 2020 are doing the same thing.

As I've said before, 2020 broke the brains of millions on the political right, and they are now incapable of seeing any event as anything short of some grand, nefarious conspiracy.

The political left's brain broke after the 2000 election.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Slwdsm
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This rapid denial actually makes it more credible to me...

Before I thought it was an over the top loony idea... now its just an over the top idea.
Teslag
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Slwdsm said:

This rapid denial actually makes it more credible to me...

Before I thought it was an over the top loony idea... now its just an over the top idea.


So how do dense airborne particles move against the wind for 150 miles in two days time?
GAC06
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Just like people are so quick to deny that the earth is flat or that birds aren't real. What do they have to hide?!?
HowdyTexasAggies
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Teslag said:


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It's been well documented across the US on all various lies proven to be true.

I don't think a big collection of tweets is "well documented".


You still advocating for the vaccine? Have you ever admitted you were dead wrong?
Teslag
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Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?
HowdyTexasAggies
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Teslag said:

Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?


Yes, pretty much everything you said and did. That's no secret here. Everyone knows. Your credibility here is about as low as it gets.
Teslag
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?


Yes, pretty much everything you said and did. That's no secret here. Everyone knows. Your credibility here is about as low as it gets.


So nothing, thanks.
HowdyTexasAggies
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Teslag said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?


Yes, pretty much everything you said and did. That's no secret here. Everyone knows. Your credibility here is about as low as it gets.


So nothing, thanks.


I don't need to prove anything, everyone knows.
Teslag
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?


Yes, pretty much everything you said and did. That's no secret here. Everyone knows. Your credibility here is about as low as it gets.


So nothing, thanks.


I don't need to prove anything,


We can tell
HowdyTexasAggies
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Teslag said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Teslag said:

Wasn't wrong about a single thing. Can you point to something specific I was wrong about?


Yes, pretty much everything you said and did. That's no secret here. Everyone knows. Your credibility here is about as low as it gets.


So nothing, thanks.


I don't need to prove anything,


We can tell


Very confident there is no "we" here for you, not with your record.
Ag in Tiger Country
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So here's the CEO of Rainmaker, who said recently the amount of cloud seeding material released the day before the Kerrville flood was equivalent to 'a bag of skittles'; HOWEVER, when he was on the Shawn Ryan show, at the 1:00 minute mark in the clip below, he says as few as 3 drones releasing ONE pound of cloud seeding materials can produce IN EXCESS OF FORTY MILLION POUNDS OF WATER!!

So, if by some strange coincidence the material was sucked up high into the atmosphere, and then reintroduced when the tropical storm remnants came through, what effect, if any, do you think just a 1/4 of a pound would have upon a system already predicted to drop in excess of 5+ inches of rain?!?!

I, along with others, don't understand some folks' vehement position that cloud seeding had ZERO effect upon the flooding; the only "expert" publicly declaring such is this guy, but of course he is going to say it had no effect because he'd be bankrupt by all the lawsuits. The science isn't settled, there's no proof that cloud seeding can be totally controlled, & the results of such efforts varry greatly; therefore, what exactly is the justification for your position besides insults & dismissive comments that often contradict your earlier comments? Also, were y'all aware of the 1 lbs results in 40 million pounds of water?!?! I certainly wasn't!

Again, I'm NOT saying that cloud seeding was the sole cause of the flooding; what I am saying is it's my belief that cloud seeding is a risky operation to perform 1 day in a general area that you know will be hit extremely hard by a storm system. My "evidence", which is purely coincidental, is the Kerrville flood & the Dubai flood, where cloud seeding efforts a day or two occurred prior to a massive flood event that shattered all previous records!

If we want to prevent a repeat of the Kerrville floods, implementation of sirens, mandatory evacuations, and other precautionary measures should be considered ALONGSIDE a prohibition against cloud seeding for a minimum of 5 days (or more) before a severe weather event strikes an area that's been targeted for cloud seeding (BECAUSE the science isn't settled, especially when "causation" of devastating floods always points to 'Climate Change's & never other factors including cloud seeding).

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPHgRF6xDkkKs-FNM88/
GAC06
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Forty million pounds of water sounds pretty scary. That works out to about 4,800,000 gallons. Kerr county got an estimated 100,000,000,000 (one hundred billion) gallons of rain on July 4th.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/07/06/estimated-100-billion-gallons-of-rain-fell-on-kerr-county-july-4-thats-more-than-niagara-falls-daily-flow/

That's assuming that the CEO's claim is accurate, it achieved max results, and all of those results occurred a day or two later 150 miles away. That works out to .0048% of the rain that day.

Here's another way to visualize it. A pretty normal sized residential pool is 20,000 gallons. .0048% of that is just under one gallon.
SunrayAg
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GAC06 said:

Forty million pounds of water sounds pretty scary. That works out to about 4,800,000 gallons. Kerr county got an estimated 100,000,000,000 (one hundred billion) gallons of rain on July 4th.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/07/06/estimated-100-billion-gallons-of-rain-fell-on-kerr-county-july-4-thats-more-than-niagara-falls-daily-flow/

That's assuming that the CEO's claim is accurate, it achieved max results, and all of those results occurred a day or two later 150 miles away. That works out to .0048% of the rain that day.

Here's another way to visualize it. A pretty normal sized residential pool is 20,000 gallons. .0048% of that is just under one gallon.


How dare you use math and facts to refute hysteria!

Rapier108
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Ag in Tiger Country said:

I, along with others, don't understand some folks' vehement position that cloud seeding had ZERO effect upon the flooding;
Despite how many times people have explained it to you, you simply ignore it or do not care to hear anything contrary to what you've already decided is the truth.

You run to Twitter, or Tiktok, or whatever else reenforces what you already believe to be true, that the cloud seeding caused the flood.

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f we want to prevent a repeat of the Kerrville floods, implementation of sirens, mandatory evacuations, and other precautionary measures should be considered ALONGSIDE a prohibition against cloud seeding for a minimum of 5 days (or more) before a severe weather event strikes an area that's been targeted for cloud seeding (BECAUSE the science isn't settled, especially when "causation" of devastating floods always points to 'Climate Change's & never other factors including cloud seeding).
Wanting to ban cloud seeding because crazies on social media made claims about something they know nothing about, but it is great for clicks and likes, is no different than people who want to ban guns, or ban any number of other things. It is a kneejerk reaction by people who will not use any critical thinking and are running purely on emotion and feelz.
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Teslag
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SunrayAg said:

GAC06 said:

Forty million pounds of water sounds pretty scary. That works out to about 4,800,000 gallons. Kerr county got an estimated 100,000,000,000 (one hundred billion) gallons of rain on July 4th.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/07/06/estimated-100-billion-gallons-of-rain-fell-on-kerr-county-july-4-thats-more-than-niagara-falls-daily-flow/

That's assuming that the CEO's claim is accurate, it achieved max results, and all of those results occurred a day or two later 150 miles away. That works out to .0048% of the rain that day.

Here's another way to visualize it. A pretty normal sized residential pool is 20,000 gallons. .0048% of that is just under one gallon.


How dare you use math and facts to refute hysteria!




Hahahahahah look at this guy still believing in math after Covid lockdowns and masking
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Francis Macomber said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Duckhook said:

Covid was the best thing that ever happened to the conspiracy theory crowd. Now they can frame every argument around "well, they lied to us about Covid, so they're surely lying about [insert favorite conspiracy theory here]"

The number of so-called conspiracies that have now been proven true is a longer list than just covid.
I find the standard of proof for finding something as "true" is pretty low with a lot on this forum.


Sadly for a lot of people on here the standard of proof is "do I want this to be true."


I'm am not advocating this theory is true, but the dismissive attitude shown here is the same as COVID.


Doubling down on the "b-b-b-but Covid". Well done.
HowdyTexasAggies
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Duckhook said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Francis Macomber said:

HowdyTexasAggies said:

Duckhook said:

Covid was the best thing that ever happened to the conspiracy theory crowd. Now they can frame every argument around "well, they lied to us about Covid, so they're surely lying about [insert favorite conspiracy theory here]"

The number of so-called conspiracies that have now been proven true is a longer list than just covid.
I find the standard of proof for finding something as "true" is pretty low with a lot on this forum.


Sadly for a lot of people on here the standard of proof is "do I want this to be true."


I'm am not advocating this theory is true, but the dismissive attitude shown here is the same as COVID.


Doubling down on the "b-b-b-but Covid". Well done.


What a stupid response, I'm not doubling down on anything. I never advocated for this cloud seed deal at all. Fact is, Covid is just one of several "conspiracies" that were proven correct. Doesn't mean this one is.

Daddy
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And here we go

CEO of rainmaker clearly states they were doing cloud seeding in the area up until a day before the floods.

He says they're regulated by the Texas department of licensing I don't know what department that is but I think that head needs to be under oath in the Texas legislature and possibly even Washington DC and Congress and answer questions

This authority needs to be explained and people need to be notified when this is going to be done in their area


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Have the video I can't post it here but I'll be glad to text anybody that wants me to and they can post it literally it's the CEO of rainmaker stating that they saw the weather reports and stop the day before the rain because they were getting Mass rain from their meteorologist

GAC06
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And here we go indeed. Scroll back one page and read. Thanks for letting us know what your social media fed you though, I guess.
Teslag
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If by "in the area" you mean they were 150 miles to the east with the wind blowing from the west then yes they were "in the area".

And yes I did get the Covid vaccine and still believe in wind.
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94chem said:

If you think cloud seeding could have caused this flooding or the flooding in North Carolina, you should mail your degree back to A&M and never tell anyone you went there.


Well you scientist from A&M created genetically modified wheat which causes inflammation on human bodies half the reason why we're having chronic diseases

Scientists from A&M contributed to telling us the covid vaccine was healthy

Scientists from A&M along with other scientists stated that all these vaccines don't cause autism
Or have 0 affect

The truth is scientists have no money unless it's granted and that granted usually comes in colleges and colleges have been controlled by the large elite families who all show up at places like Jekyll Island or Switzerland and tell us that the population of the world is too much and we need less.

Am I right? Or do you need to hear that?


Boozer92
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No idea what was actually in that video but I listened to him in an interview with Glenn Beck that posted in this thread. He said they seeded 2 clouds 2 days before. Also mentioned something about stopping a day earlier than state regulations required them to because their forecasters expected rain in the 3rd.
GAC06
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I'm starting to think that if I made a Venn diagram of flat earthers, 9/11 truthers, vaccine autism believers, and now cloud seeders, plus people with double digit IQ…

It would just be a circle.
Teslag
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Well you scientist from A&M created genetically modified wheat which causes inflammation on human bodies half the reason why we're having chronic diseases


There is no GMO wheat available in US markets.
GAC06
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GMO wheat is what's causing my imaginary MSG allergy
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What happened to the 2 clouds they seeded?

Where did the seeds go?
Boozer92
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According to the rainmaker CEO it rained near Runge, TX and the clouds were dissipated in a couple of hours
94chem
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Daddy said:

94chem said:

If you think cloud seeding could have caused this flooding or the flooding in North Carolina, you should mail your degree back to A&M and never tell anyone you went there.


Well you scientist from A&M created genetically modified wheat which causes inflammation on human bodies half the reason why we're having chronic diseases

Scientists from A&M contributed to telling us the covid vaccine was healthy

Scientists from A&M along with other scientists stated that all these vaccines don't cause autism
Or have 0 affect

The truth is scientists have no money unless it's granted and that granted usually comes in colleges and colleges have been controlled by the large elite families who all show up at places like Jekyll Island or Switzerland and tell us that the population of the world is too much and we need less.

Am I right? Or do you need to hear that?





Mail it in.
94chem,
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ts5641 said:

Social media may be the worst thing to happen to mankind.



It is like the witch scene from Holy Grail but with real people.
 
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