Equinox said:

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Talk about a conspiracy theory that took off like gangbusters on social media. This one has grown quickly.

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First reported by the Houston Chronicle, cloud seeding involves releasing silver iodide into clouds to increase rainfall under specific conditions. According to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, it is used in select areas of West and South Texas, typically during dry seasons to enhance precipitation.

The claim that cloud seeding played a role in this tragic event is complete nonsense," said Andrew Dessler, director of Texas A&M University's Texas Center for Extreme Weather.

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Cloud seeding claims debunked

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"experts"

How over the top was the Houston Chronical article? Can they be sued?

Rainfall and Snow can be artificial - The Battalion February 8, 1949

I can't believe that there are regulars on the outdoor this board that act as though cloud seeding is a new thing or that it had anything to do with the flooding.

Some times the village idiot needs to just shut up and stay in the village.


Edit: I just realized this was on Politics, not Outdoor. Thank goodness.

Teslag said:

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But what I have found is when man tries to play God, bad things tend to happen (and for good reason).

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What do you define as "play God"? I see this thrown around a lot with no definition or limit as to what constitutes it.

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Bringing dinosaurs back to life probably fits the definition.

Rapier108 said:

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All started with Michael Flynn implying that cloud seeding caused the flood.

MTG picked it up and the Q wing of the political right ran with it like they do every damn conspiracy theory.

And they will still believe it because 2020 broke their brains.

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I'm still in the phase where I generally give the government and officials the benefit of the doubt on most things.

Some things I'm past that for now. Corruption, MIC, endless wars etc…

Like I said, I want to believe most of these things aren't true but for **** sake, they do get it right way more often than I am comfortable with.

There's a longish thread about this on the OB. I'm surprised the mods haven't moved it here.

txyaloo said:

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There's a longish thread about this on the OB. I'm surprised the mods haven't moved it here.

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Not everyone is on the outdoor board. This is clearly a political discussion as well.

Rapier108 said:

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All started with Michael Flynn implying that cloud seeding caused the flood.

MTG picked it up and the Q wing of the political right ran with it like they do every damn conspiracy theory.

And they will still believe it because 2020 broke their brains.

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2020 destroyed all credibility of "experts and professionals "

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This board used to laugh at the idea that Bush caused Katrina with his "weather machine". Now we "can't be sure" because covid. We live in stupid times.

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And we have the effects of AI to look forward to.

SCHTICK00 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All started with Michael Flynn implying that cloud seeding caused the flood.

MTG picked it up and the Q wing of the political right ran with it like they do every damn conspiracy theory.

And they will still believe it because 2020 broke their brains.

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2020 destroyed all credibility of "experts and professionals "

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Putting your faith in kooks and loons is a bold strategy. The meteorologist's explanation above is solid.

Equinox said:

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Talk about a conspiracy theory that took off like gangbusters on social media. This one has grown quickly.

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First reported by the Houston Chronicle, cloud seeding involves releasing silver iodide into clouds to increase rainfall under specific conditions. According to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, it is used in select areas of West and South Texas, typically during dry seasons to enhance precipitation.

The claim that cloud seeding played a role in this tragic event is complete nonsense," said Andrew Dessler, director of Texas A&M University's Texas Center for Extreme Weather.

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Cloud seeding claims debunked

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I thought this whole thing was one big steaming pile of dung...

And then Andy Dessler opened his mouth in that article. That ******* wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit him.

All the looney Karens on Facebook have jumped all over the "cloud seeding caused the flash flood" bandwagon. Sad and hilarious at the same time.

Line Ate Member said:

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I remember a time when most people said that cloud seeding wasn't a thing.

Now, we have everyone admitting that it is real, but that this event was totally nature made and not aided by man-made cloud seeding.

Few Questions:

1. How long does the "seeding" stay in the atmosphere after being released?

2. How do you know that this seeding dissipates after x days/hours? What research has been done?

3. How is it released into the air?

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When is this time that you're talking about "when most people said that cloud seeding wasn't a thing." Cloud seeding has been going on in west Texas since at least the early '80s. It was talked about openly. Are you just making **** up?

I think people are confusing cloud seeding with
"chem trails"

TexAgs91 said:

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How over the top was the Houston Chronical article? Can they be sued?

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The Chronicle story linked in the OP is about conspiracy theories and says that cloud seeding is one of them. It'll be difficult to sue them over that. (More to the point, the quoted material in the OP was poorly worded.)

Science Denier said:

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Wait. Isn't this science?

From SCIENCE NOTES (LMAO)
SCIENCE NOTES

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Does Cloud Seeding Work?

Basically, cloud seeding does work, but not reliably and not particularly well.

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LOL, science.

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Just like the China flu vaccine.

Paranoia is in charge!

JohnClark929 said:

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Paranoia is in charge!

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Paranoia they destroy ya...

Rapier108 said:

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All started with Michael Flynn implying that cloud seeding caused the flood.

MTG picked it up and the Q wing of the political right ran with it like they do every damn conspiracy theory.

And they will still believe it because 2020 broke their brains.

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Did she claim that cloud seeding was directly responsible for this flooding, or did she simply just copy Desantis months after he led the charge on signing a bill to ban geoengineering and cloud seeding in the state of Florida?

I will say this...as long as we have crazy secular leftists like Bill Gates, and multiple governments in Western Europe talking about spraying aerosols and particles to help dim the sun and mitigate climate change, we will have people that wonder if there could be nefarious uses or if these programs could backfire in any way.

You're against this geoengineering that Bill Gates and the UK are for, right?

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Rapier108 said:

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All started with Michael Flynn implying that cloud seeding caused the flood.

MTG picked it up and the Q wing of the political right ran with it like they do every damn conspiracy theory.

And they will still believe it because 2020 broke their brains.

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Did she claim that cloud seeding was directly responsible for this flooding, or did she simply just copy Desantis months after he led the charge on signing a bill to ban geoengineering and cloud seeding in the state of Florida?

I will say this...as long as we have crazy secular leftists like Bill Gates, and multiple governments in Western Europe talking about spraying aerosols and particles to help dim the sun and mitigate climate change, we will have people that wonder if there could be nefarious uses or if these programs could backfire in any way.

You're against this geoengineering that Bill Gates and the UK are for, right?

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She ran out to say she is introducing a bill to ban cloud seeding and geoengineering right after Flynn started the whole thing.

And yes, what Bill Gates and the UK want to do is lunacy and not even remotely comparable to cloud seeding.

Rapier108 said:

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Line Ate Member said:

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I remember a time when most people said that cloud seeding wasn't a thing.

Now, we have everyone admitting that it is real, but that this event was totally nature made and not aided by man-made cloud seeding.

Few Questions:

1. How long does the "seeding" stay in the atmosphere after being released?

2. How do you know that this seeding dissipates after x days/hours? What research has been done?

3. How is it released into the air?

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Cloud seeding has been around for 50+ years. How it works is well documented.

Anyone who said it doesn't exist is uninformed.

1. The material lasts for a few hours or less, depending on what is used. Dry ice dissipates very quickly.

2. As I said, it has been done for decades and it is well understood so it is based on experience. "Research" is not needed to understand it.

3. Aircraft

Now a question for you.

Why do you want the flood be caused by cloud seeding?

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Anyone blaming this flood on cloud seeding doesn't know what they're talking about. Weather modification/cloud seeding has been a regulated industry in this state for decades, and it has caused zero problems. It is done in individual instances on a small scale from a geographic perspective to bring rain to dry areas of the state. There is nothing new or novel about it, and it certainly had no impact on the recent flooding.

One of my wife's former students was peddling a theory that BlackRock did the cloud seeding because they want to buy up all that land because of the lithium in the ground. I kid you not. They walk amongst us folks.

It was remnants of Tropical Storm Barry... Do I need to type slower for some people?

TexAgsSean said:

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This will be a long post but here's what Travis Herzog posted (he's Aggie alum and the chief meteorologist for ABC 13 in Houston):

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A was cloud seeding used in this area yes or no?
B who made that decision I want the man's name that said we need to do this?
C what authority did that person have to be given that much power
D did the citizens of that area get to vote on this and if you say it's from representative government than who in the legislator of Texas gave these people this power and not to tell the citizens I have never heard of this that it was being used. I thought this was all tin foil hat stuff.
E don't you think the citizens of an area if they're using this science should be worn just in case it's not controlled?

F did anybody benefit from these floods?

Jbob04 said:

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I think people are confusing cloud seeding with
"chem trails"

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they are. And I keep wondering where all these people were during hurricane helene last year when the internet sleuths were tracking doppler radar transmissions against atmospheric conditions. This board will really be a hoot when that starts getting discussed.

HTownAg98 said:

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One of my wife's former students was peddling a theory that BlackRock did the cloud seeding because they want to buy up all that land because of the lithium in the ground. I kid you not. They walk amongst us folks.

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The Hurricane Helene conspiracy repackaged.

MTG was pushing that one as well.

If cloud seeding was so freaking effective as some of y'all are claiming, there would never be droughts. Yet, droughts still happen.

I am embarrassed that some of you guys actually have Ag tags.

GeorgiAg said:

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Cloud seeding is to global warming as autism is to vaccines

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Not the best analogy, more like DNA manipulation is to RNA vaccines

No I'm asking you to give me the answers and this is the answers that everybody deserves as a citizen of Texas that was hurt or affected in this

Whoever is allowed to do cloud seeding that person needs to be under oath and investigated who gives him this power when do they use it and what are the parameters.

I don't want to know if it doesn't cause floods I don't want you to tell me what parameters you think it works or doesn't work. This needs to be investigated

This is like telling the parent that has autistic children that vaccines don't have any issues.

Yet 1 and 40 do
And just since the past few months people are more open to talking about it because the hepatitis b
Vaccine there's a 4,000% chance of autism over not having it.

Yet we were told you're full of crap the science is debunked this and it's not proven and y'all are just conspiracy crazy people.

So back to the flooding where is the exact data that no cloud seeding was used anywhere near it.
Who makes that decision
Who carries out that cloud seeding operation
Which legislator grants that authority
And those people should be investigated under oath

Not told it wasn't the reason for it.

If you are trying to make rain and you are putting stuff in the atmosphere to make rain you absolutely this should be very heavily regulated and the citizens of Texas or whatever state you're in should know everything about it.

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No I'm asking you to give me the answers and this is the answers that everybody deserves as a citizen of Texas that was hurt or affected in this

Whoever is allowed to do cloud seeding that person needs to be under oath and investigated who gives him this power when do they use it and what are the parameters.

I don't want to know if it doesn't cause floods I don't want you to tell me what parameters you think it works or doesn't work. This needs to be investigated

This is like telling the parent that has autistic children that vaccines don't have any issues.

Yet 1 and 40 do
And just since the past few months people are more open to talking about it because the hepatitis b
Vaccine there's a 4,000% chance of autism over not having it.

Yet we were told you're full of crap the science is debunked this and it's not proven and y'all are just conspiracy crazy people.

So back to the flooding where is the exact data that no cloud seeding was used anywhere near it.
Who makes that decision
Who carries out that cloud seeding operation
Which legislator grants that authority
And those people should be investigated under oath

Not told it wasn't the reason for it.

If you are trying to make rain and you are putting stuff in the atmosphere to make rain you absolutely this should be very heavily regulated and the citizens of Texas or whatever state you're in should know everything about it.

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I the '80s, the decision to cloud seed would literally be made by a small town council, mayor, and city manager. This has been going on for decades. You act like there is some cloud czar responsible for these decisions.

Line Ate Member said:

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I remember a time when most people said that cloud seeding wasn't a thing.

Now, we have everyone admitting that it is real, but that this event was totally nature made and not aided by man-made cloud seeding.

Few Questions:

1. How long does the "seeding" stay in the atmosphere after being released?

2. How do you know that this seeding dissipates after x days/hours? What research has been done?

3. How is it released into the air?

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Actually nobody has said cloud seeding isn't a thing. Sane people know that chemtrails are not a thing, and the 2 are completely unrelated.

Daddy said:

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No I'm asking you to give me the answers and this is the answers that everybody deserves as a citizen of Texas that was hurt or affected in this

Whoever is allowed to do cloud seeding that person needs to be under oath and investigated who gives him this power when do they use it and what are the parameters.

I don't want to know if it doesn't cause floods I don't want you to tell me what parameters you think it works or doesn't work. This needs to be investigated

This is like telling the parent that has autistic children that vaccines don't have any issues.

Yet 1 and 40 do
And just since the past few months people are more open to talking about it because the hepatitis b
Vaccine there's a 4,000% chance of autism over not having it.

Yet we were told you're full of crap the science is debunked this and it's not proven and y'all are just conspiracy crazy people.

So back to the flooding where is the exact data that no cloud seeding was used anywhere near it.
Who makes that decision
Who carries out that cloud seeding operation
Which legislator grants that authority
And those people should be investigated under oath

Not told it wasn't the reason for it.

If you are trying to make rain and you are putting stuff in the atmosphere to make rain you absolutely this should be very heavily regulated and the citizens of Texas or whatever state you're in should know everything about it.

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You want to spend a fortune on an investigation to see if cloud seeding happened in the vicinity of a predictable flood that has happened countless number of times and will happen again and again?

Queso1 said:

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I dont know anything about this. But always remember that there was a time when when people on this site would call you a loon for saying Covid escaped the lab and that the vax didn't do crap.

You know who you are and you created a whole lot of conspiracy theorists that previously minded their own business and followed the corporate media narrative.

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That's a cautionary tale, not a rule to live by. It's weird how so many have bought into every conspiracy floated out there and their justification is purely based on COVID.

And yes, I misunderstood this issue in another thread.

doubledog said:

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It was remnants of Tropical Storm Barry... Do I need to type slower for some people?

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Great, now you've drawn Obama into this.