DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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8:59p, 2/3/26
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Not so crooked anymore.
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In reply to hph6203 • 9:02p, 2/3/26
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hph6203 said:
That's his platform? He has my vote!

So a dictator, just not Trump as dictator? Not sure how much sense that makes, but go for it.

Massie (and his master Randy) is a libertarian masquerading as a Republican. Now, libertarians in a two-party system are about a useless as tits on a boar hog.

He is not a republican, he is most certainly not an ideal republican. And his ideas, priorities and "principles" matter little when he consistently votes with the Dems.

My hate on Massie is not personal. It's that he occupies a seat in the house that would be more helpful if an actual republican held it. Same for Paul.

You can like him, but to ever believe his potential extends beyond the 4th district of Kentucky, that's laughable.
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In reply to boulderaggie • 9:13p, 2/3/26
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boulderaggie said:
Another conspiracy theory confirmed?

Yeah, just need to bring back "the thread".
It, and how it mirrored some of the Mueller thread ended up having more factual evidence than the almighty Covid thread.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:07p, 2/3/26
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flown-the-coop said:

My hate on Massie is not personal. It's that he occupies a seat in the house that would be more helpful if an actual republican held it. Same for Paul.



Everyone can see why you hate Massie, it is quite apparent and you aren't fooling anyone. It is also rich that you complain about "actual Republicans" while spending post after post blindly defending someone who was a proud Democrat for 50+ years, but i guess that is what happens when people put principals over principles.
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In reply to AgDev01 • 10:08p, 2/3/26
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Sure.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:15a, 2/4/26
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Define the term principles.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:22a, 2/4/26
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hph6203 said:
That's his platform? He has my vote!

So a dictator, just not Trump as dictator? Not sure how much sense that makes, but go for it.

Massie (and his master Randy) is a libertarian masquerading as a Republican. Now, libertarians in a two-party system are about a useless as tits on a boar hog.

He is not a republican, he is most certainly not an ideal republican. And his ideas, priorities and "principles" matter little when he consistently votes with the Dems.

My hate on Massie is not personal. It's that he occupies a seat in the house that would be more helpful if an actual republican held it. Same for Paul.

You can like him, but to ever believe his potential extends beyond the 4th district of Kentucky, that's laughable.

Yeah, the fact that he's NOT a "republican" is why he is awesome. "Republicans" do not do anything for their base; and more often than not they sell their base out
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7:27a, 2/4/26
If Bill Gates or just one person spills the beans, then Trump's entire house of cards "This is just a hoax, there is no list" falls apart.

It's only going to take one person to pierce the obvious Trump lie.
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In reply to AgDev01 • 7:37a, 2/4/26
His posting style is pretty much a perfect example of party over principles.

And explains the strong dislike for Massie/Rand types who are trying to correct the issues with the party.
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 8:05a, 2/4/26
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shiftyandquick said:
If Bill Gates or just one person spills the beans, then Trump's entire house of cards "This is just a hoax, there is no list" falls apart.

It's only going to take one person to pierce the obvious Trump lie.

Someone has to be a dedicated conspiracy theorist at this point to think hidden in the Epstein files there's proof that Trump is dirty, or Bill Clinton for that matter. If it existed, partisans of the opposite party with access to the files would have released it long ago to harm their opponents. There is no way somebody had that info and sat on it this long. No way.

Might be smaller fish still found guilty in those files, but nothing that's going to convict a current or former president.

Trump's mistake on this was promising instant release of the files, only to learn it's not a manila folder sitting on somebody's desk, but apparently millions of documents and emails. Plus I think they're being deliberate not to just throw everything out there and tarnish the reputation of people who are likely innocent just to satisfy the mob mentality. That Trump promise was one of the downsides of his populist approach where he tells people what he thinks they want to hear if he believes it's a winning issue. He's right on many of them but nobody bats 1,000.

You can bet this will be a forever conspiracy right up there with the JFK assassination and others.

And to be clear, I hate pedos and hope that anyone actually guilty of it spends life in prison and then rots in hell.
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In reply to Tea Party • 8:26a, 2/4/26
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Tea Party said:
His posting style is pretty much a perfect example of party over principles.

And explains the strong dislike for Massie/Rand types who are trying to correct the issues with the party.

What principle of Massies and Randy's would you like me to adopt?

I am not a libertarian. They are. They claim to be "republican" because they want the money and influence to get elected.

Your username indicates a strong libertarian tendency. Again, I don't have any particular issue with folks personal beliefs, but this is politics and is about winning elections, obtaining the influence and power to govern our Country in a manner more consistent with the Constitution and the values our Country was founded upon.

Massie and Randy are NOT the leaders of the Republican Party, but they sure try and act like it and they sure love their coffers being filled with R donor dollars.

Ask yourself, if these dolts were so principle in their "values", why keep lying? Take the mask off and show your true Libertarian colors.

So, am I party over principles? Yes. Cause unfortunately we are a two party system and the 3rd wheel gets no action on ride.

If you want to "reform" the party, the time to do so is the primaries and conventions, not on the floor of Congress when we have a slightest majority against true evil.

So you can keep up the shots on my posts, but I am comfortable in my position on this.

Massie and Randy fancy themselves as leaders of a party they don't belong to. Trump is right to kick their disloyal arses to the side. Massies stunts and consistently voting with the Dems has accomplished exactly what?

Hell, he got tricked on his most famous piece of legislation because he was unable to attach any teeth.

Tl;Dr spare me the party over principles. Cause if you valued your principle, you would be busy finding solid L candidates that can score a W on a national level.
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 8:27a, 2/4/26
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It's a new day and I find myself agreeing with a post of yours. Well summarized.
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In reply to Keyno • 8:29a, 2/4/26
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As with Tea Party, you have an internal question to answer. Are you an L or an R? If an R, you need to be critical of Massies interference.

If you are an actual L, then quit your *****in a get to itchin on making the L a national parry that can win an election.

Until then it's just hot air antagonism… exactly what Massie and Randy do.
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8:44a, 2/4/26
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The DOJ messed up again? Must be a day that ends in Y
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 8:49a, 2/4/26
I am an R in the traditional sense. Conservative knowing some government is necessary, with strong libertarian preferences though I know most people are not ethically or morally capable of libertarianism thus I won't push for that.

I am not however the new hijacked definition of R that has been allowed to drift so far left they are essentially an 80's Democrat. Massie and Rand are the traditional R's. You are advocating for allowing the definition of R to continue being hijacked as being an 80's Democrat. Essentially advocating for the survival of the party, even if it means moving left and abandoning some of it's principles it used to have.

And to bring this back to the topic of OP, I only meant my post in the context of this thread. You have several good point of views on other topics, but for some reason on this thread or any thread that involves Trump, Massie, or Rand it's as if an internal switch is flipped and it takes over. I mean this as constructive feedback, not as an attack.
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8:57a, 2/4/26
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*** per an "informant" so take with salt
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In reply to Logos Stick • 9:31a, 2/4/26
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Logos Stick said:
has this been posted... crazy!


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Melinda Gates responds after Epstein Files suggest Bill Gates got an STD from "Russian girls" and planned to secretly medicate her.

NPR: "The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection, and that he was going to give you the medicine without you knowing. His representative has said all of this is false… What is your dominant emotion when you read these news articles with these details?"

MELINDA GATES: "Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness… It's just sadness. I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. I felt I needed to eventually leave the foundation. So it's just sad. That's the truth."





She danced around violating the NDA about as close as one could get. Estimated 25 Billion in divorce settlement in 2021 but didn't leave foundation until 2024. Or is she getting a bit more courage given the change since trump reelection. I wish interviewer would have asked questions about his covid response and food engineering BS.
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In reply to PaulsBunions • 10:26a, 2/4/26
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*** per an "informant" so take with salt

"CONFIRMED"

And it is just a CHS report.

I do think he was working with intelligence, foreign or domestic, but some of these Twitter accounts gotta do better.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 11:07a, 2/4/26
flown-the-coop said:
As with Tea Party, you have an internal question to answer. Are you an L or an R? If an R, you need to be critical of Massies interference.

If you are an actual L, then quit your *****in a get to itchin on making the L a national parry that can win an election.

Until then it's just hot air antagonism… exactly what Massie and Randy do.

What are you talking about? Why is it so necessary for me to be a party partisan such as yourself?
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12:06p, 2/4/26
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How could Macron do this to the french Big Mike
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1:07p, 2/4/26
Politico says Dems are not protecting the Clintons on Epstein.

Take a hint Republicans, putting your leader ahead of the truth is not going to serve you well.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/04/clinton-democrats-generations-gop-investigation-00763131
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 1:48p, 2/4/26
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What would they do if they had any power to stop it? If the hearing is going to happen anyway there's only two outcomes, they're perceived as guilty and therefore you're perceived as a sexual abuse defender by opposing it, or they're perceived innocent and you say you were doing the appropriate due diligence and their names have been cleared and no one is above the law.

Doesn't take morality to make a self preservation decision.
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Politico says Dems are not protecting the Clintons on Epstein.

Take a hint Republicans, putting your leader ahead of the truth is not going to serve you well.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/04/clinton-democrats-generations-gop-investigation-00763131

If Trump banged or tortured little girls or boys, skin him alive. if he was banging 16-17 yr old girls, imprison him. I just haven't seen close to enough to get me there, much less bring charges.

Kill ALL pedophiles. R or D, even though most are D.
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Ive seen enough defund the sips NOW
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3:58p, 2/4/26
Friendly reminder as we approach tax season...

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In reply to PaulsBunions • 3:59p, 2/4/26
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Liberty result is from searching the term "liberty." If you search Liberty University it's only 9. Assuming 95+% of "liberty" has nothing to do with the university and that person is just trying to create an anti-Christian narrative.
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4:02p, 2/4/26
Some of the Epstein files stuff is just hard to absorb, being a generally morally upstanding individual who just has sex with his wife and tries to be good to other people and do the right thing. It is just hard to digest a lot of this stuff...and I wanted to believe all of the "pizzagate" stuff was fabricated.

Is it possible that there could be a lot of over the top exaggerated or fabricated stuff implanted in there for nefarious purposes, maybe by intelligence agencies, or foreign adversaries, to murky the waters and ruin the reputations of thousands of people?

Sorry, but it is so hard to believe they are just casually talking about beheading young girls, or Bush Sr raping boys and cutting their feet off, or torturing young kids and just discussing it like it's nothing.

Why don't we see more texts? Why is it all emails? Aren't texts more secure? Did Epstein just sit around and play on his email all day every day? Who sends that many emails to people? Even in 2014-2015 I was hardly sending emails to friends and peers. Has he sent MILLIONS of emails?

I don't know...maybe I just dont want to believe it's really as bad as some of these emails indicate.
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