PaulsBunions said:

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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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Ok. We get it MTG, you're a poor victim now. Geez, get over it.

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Its more pathetic of DJT for turning on her over this issue than anything else tbh

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only a literal dummy believes Trump was the one turning on MTG over Epstein.

how about EVERYTHING SHE STATED ON THE VIEW? about the high price of everything in the USA? about how Trump is a traitor doing the bidding of the Jews?

Lots of posters on here are just Eric Swalwell acolytes consumed with TDS. Heck, he may be one of the posters…

Warning: NAFW language and captioning on video. Dems have to curse to communicate these days.

Checkmate, Mr. President pic.twitter.com/XuGOVBtzAW

— Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) November 17, 2025

Correct. His turn on MTG is because she has become too unhinged to be of any use. Shes always been nuts, but she is stepping it up a notch as she sees her spotlight flaming out.

Can you point to where Trump is protecting people by releasing files and asking his DOJ to look into things FROM DAY ONE of this admin?

Why didn't he look into during first term? Think it's been made pretty clear that he had unfriendliness surrounding him particularly at and within the DOJ.

flown-the-coop said:

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Or MTG is trying to keep her name out there. And in doing so, her and Massie are helping the Dems for the midterms.

But in no way is MTG not Massie nor any of the others on any side of this interested in holding additional people accountable.

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Oh MTG, like every politician, is not doing any of this without getting anything out of it themselves. They're politicians, it's what they do and she's cranking things up to 11 while she can.

I agree, that people being held accountable will be an afterthought not the primary reason for her and any politician.

Sucks that any justice that happens for those women, who were children when things happened to them, will only happen because is was politically beneficial.

LMCane said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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Ok. We get it MTG, you're a poor victim now. Geez, get over it.

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Its more pathetic of DJT for turning on her over this issue than anything else tbh

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only a literal dummy believes Trump was the one turning on MTG over Epstein.

how about EVERYTHING SHE STATED ON THE VIEW? about the high price of everything in the USA? about how Trump is a traitor doing the bidding of the Jews?

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You can ignore the timing of it if you want to, she's always been this way and he only dropped support now that she's going against him on this one issue

LMCane said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

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Ok. We get it MTG, you're a poor victim now. Geez, get over it.

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Its more pathetic of DJT for turning on her over this issue than anything else tbh

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only a literal dummy believes Trump was the one turning on MTG over Epstein.

how about EVERYTHING SHE STATED ON THE VIEW? about the high price of everything in the USA? about how Trump is a traitor doing the bidding of the Jews?

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That's becuase she actually believes what MAGA sold to the American people, hell so did I 10 years ago.

Prices are insanely high and unsustainable, and we should not be supporting ANY foreign government while we have middle-class Americans not able to feed their children or afford their health insurance.

If that's seen as anti-semitic or trying to undermine our fearless leader Trump then we are lost and never to be found again as a Country.

Unfortunately I don't think there is any justice to be had for the victims at this point no matter what is or is not released.

However, they could still make civil claims against their accusers.

At this point, these victims have plenty or moral and fiscal support to pursue this.

That this has not happened or been brought to the front more begins to support that this has always been made to be bigger than it is.

There is sex trafficking going on in your own communities but people like tabloid fodder versus actual justice.

Thats a general comment on the situation not directed as to how you may feel.

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YouBet said:

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But now we are supposed to believe Trump is a pedo, they've had the evidence all along but just haven't released it...out of, what, respect?

Sure. Ok.

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Why didn't Trump release info about Clinton?. Why is he protecting him? He hinted about it before the 2016 election so he has know for a while and certainly had the opportunity to do so as President. Why is it only now that he is naming him again and asking for an investigation?

Do you have an issue with Trump clearly protecting those he knew were involved?

Some of you are way too wrapped up in Red versus Blue when it has been the elites versus the rest of us all along.

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I've already shared my opinion on what's happening here and why Trump is doing what he's doing, and it has nothing to do with red vs blue.

flown-the-coop said:

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Unfortunately I don't think there is any justice to be had for the victims at this point no matter what is or is not released.

However, they could still make civil claims against their accusers.

At this point, these victims have plenty or moral and fiscal support to pursue this.

That this has not happened or been brought to the front more begins to support that this has always been made to be bigger than it is.

There is sex trafficking going on in your own communities but people like tabloid fodder versus actual justice.

Thats a general comment on the situation not directed as to how you may feel.

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No, I hear you.

And, yes, the masses will stop caring about anything related to sex trafficking as soon as all this dies down.

Pathetic, but predictable.

Prices are insanely high? Are you calling for price controls and subsidies to alleviate this immediately?

You seem more keen on overthrowing the establishment and burning it all to the ground rather than any justice for Epstein victims.

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flown-the-coop said:

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People siding with MTG all of the sudden need to think about why they are no supporting a deranged woman.

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Broken clock being right is my only guess.

I mean, the party of family values voted for a twice divorce New Yorker who was buddies with the Clinton's and known to not have been a practicing Christian, etc.

Stranger things have happened is what I'm getting at.

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LOL.

Bring on that vast right wing conspiracy.

BTW, is this vote a clean one that only addresses the Epstein crap, or does it somehow have pork in it?

Are they somehow about to vote for universal health care or Logan's Run or some *****

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BTW, is this vote a clean one that only addresses the Epstein crap, or does it somehow have pork in it?

Are they somehow about to vote for universal health care or Logan's Run or some *****

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You can read it yourself here, but no it doesn't.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/581/text

This is going to make some folks mad lol

Thank you @realDonaldTrump for encouraging my colleagues to vote YES on our important legislation to release the Epstein files.https://t.co/72s5nKODun pic.twitter.com/S2ePuH59KB

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 17, 2025

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Prices are insanely high? Are you calling for price controls and subsidies to alleviate this immediately?

You seem more keen on overthrowing the establishment and burning it all to the ground rather than any justice for Epstein victims.

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No, I'm calling for governing this country conservatively which will lower prices and cost of living drastically in the long-term. Basically doing the opposite of what Trump and Congress did with the Big Beautiful Bill.

And yes, we should all be interested in burning our current system to the ground so that it can be replaced with common sense and decency again. As for Epstein, his co conspiritors and their victims, thanks to our current corrupt system we will never truly know what happened to them or by whom because of our two-tiered justice system and people who defend it in the name of Party.

Hooray for Red. Vs. Blue while the folks pulling the strings continue to get exorbitantly rich. You'll never see me cheer for or defend any of them.

I’ll be voting NO on the Epstein Hoax.

The Democrats are using the Epstein Hoax to distract us from the winning of President Trump and his administration.

My message to my Republican colleagues: Don’t let this noise keep us from delivering on the mandate the American people… pic.twitter.com/Bi7bIvlxNA

— Congressman Troy E. Nehls (@RepTroyNehls) November 14, 2025

Why wasn’t the Democrat Party pushing for the release of the Epstein files when Joe Biden was in office?

Once the Epstein files are released and President Trump is exonerated, the dishonest media and the Democrat Party should apologize to President Trump. pic.twitter.com/qCuuaUWbPv

— Congressman Troy E. Nehls (@RepTroyNehls) November 18, 2025

Guess Nehls is voting yes now, what a difference 3 days makes.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Prices are insanely high? Are you calling for price controls and subsidies to alleviate this immediately?

You seem more keen on overthrowing the establishment and burning it all to the ground rather than any justice for Epstein victims.

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No, I'm calling for governing this country conservatively which will lower prices and cost of living drastically in the long-term. Basically doing the opposite of what Trump and Congress did with the Big Beautiful Bill.

And yes, we should all be interested in burning our current system to the ground so that it can be replaced with common sense and decency again. As for Epstein, his co conspiritors and their victims, thanks to our current corrupt system we will never truly know what happened to them or by whom because of our two-tiered justice system and people who defend it in the name of Party.

Hooray for Red. Vs. Blue while the folks pulling the strings continue to get exorbitantly rich. You'll never see me cheer for or defend any of them.

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Extending the 1st term tax cuts, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on social security, and removing 10 regulations for every new one added are HUGE victories from the BBB.

Perhaps you are not aware of what was in and just buy into fiscal conservative absolutists... libertarians who have no realistic, passable answers and ignore reality in such of ideality.

That approach to solutions is no different than 2 year old tantrums or 43 day Dem shutdowns.

They are all voting yes. Suicide to vote no at this point and Mike Johnson said as much and even MTG is on that same page.

This dies in the Senate because Massie and Khanna write bills the way Habba writes indictments.

PaulsBunions said:

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This is going to make some folks mad lol

Thank you @realDonaldTrump for encouraging my colleagues to vote YES on our important legislation to release the Epstein files.https://t.co/72s5nKODun pic.twitter.com/S2ePuH59KB

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 17, 2025

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This is akin to an article about South Carolina's victory over the Ags. it ignores the second half.

All Massie did was gum up the works, help the Ds with a YUGE talking point, and gain a primary challenge who will wax the floor with his ass in the spring.

Celebrate away Massie. Celebrate!

This is how @SpeakerJohnson plans to protect perverts who went to the rape island from embarrassment. Do not let the Senate add an amendment to avoid disclosing those rich and powerful men who have evaded justice for so many years. Is Johnson calling all victims “non-credible?” pic.twitter.com/krjL8e41XI

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 18, 2025

So if there is a baseless accusation against Massie it should be released unredacted with no further context or explanation?

He seems remarkably dumb. Like competing with MTG dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/live/W9vhr1uhsLE?si=c6kJHdr8mf5aAl6I

Livestream of debate for those interested

flown-the-coop said:

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They are all voting yes. Suicide to vote no at this point and Mike Johnson said as much and even MTG is on that same page.

This dies in the Senate because Massie and Khanna write bills the way Habba writes indictments.

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Johnson is bold faced lying. All his "concerns" are addressed in the original.

They're going to run cover as much as they can.

Truly bizarre. Unless...

The fix is in boys. If we're lucky we get a bunch of bull****, or hundreds of blacked out pages.

Gig em G said:

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The fix is in boys. If we're lucky we get a bunch of bull****, or hundreds of blacked out pages.

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If only there were dozens of live victims willing to name names and sue the guilty men for rape or statutory rape. We could get all the gory details on Epstein's pals. It's too bad there don't seem to be any.

MTG made Trump fold. That is exactly what happened. Now little Mike Johnson and all the other GOP puppets will now vote to release.

PaulsBunions said:

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I’ll be voting NO on the Epstein Hoax.

The Democrats are using the Epstein Hoax to distract us from the winning of President Trump and his administration.

My message to my Republican colleagues: Don’t let this noise keep us from delivering on the mandate the American people… pic.twitter.com/Bi7bIvlxNA

— Congressman Troy E. Nehls (@RepTroyNehls) November 14, 2025

Why wasn’t the Democrat Party pushing for the release of the Epstein files when Joe Biden was in office?

Once the Epstein files are released and President Trump is exonerated, the dishonest media and the Democrat Party should apologize to President Trump. pic.twitter.com/qCuuaUWbPv

— Congressman Troy E. Nehls (@RepTroyNehls) November 18, 2025

Guess Nehls is voting yes now, what a difference 3 days makes.

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Just doing either what he's been told to do or in his best interest now. Regardless, it's not like people are going to forget it was only four people on the right pushing for this into Trump came out with his tweet and now those who weren't pushing for it now are, even if they don't like it.

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But the Epstein conduct at issue happened between 15 and 25 years ago. The witnesses and victims are almost all still alive. Most of the perpetrators are all alive. Why would we be focused on "files" when those files wouldn't even be admissible into evidence without the testimony of the living victims?

Imagine, outside of the Epstein context, that a woman was accusing some unnamed third party of raping her, while steadfastly refusing to identify rapist, and then expecting the government to do something about it. What?

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Found the above from a post on X. Sorry to keep beating this drum but I can't find a decent answer for the silence of these victims.

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But the Epstein conduct at issue happened between 15 and 25 years ago. The witnesses and victims are almost all still alive. Most of the perpetrators are all alive. Why would we be focused on "files" when those files wouldn't even be admissible into evidence without the testimony of the living victims?

Imagine, outside of the Epstein context, that a woman was accusing some unnamed third party of raping her, while steadfastly refusing to identify rapist, and then expecting the government to do something about it. What?

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Found the above from a post on X. Sorry to keep beating this drum but I can't find a decent answer for the silence of these victims.

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The only thing that makes sense is that these women were paid off/NDA'ed to death.

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But the Epstein conduct at issue happened between 15 and 25 years ago. The witnesses and victims are almost all still alive. Most of the perpetrators are all alive. Why would we be focused on "files" when those files wouldn't even be admissible into evidence without the testimony of the living victims?

Imagine, outside of the Epstein context, that a woman was accusing some unnamed third party of raping her, while steadfastly refusing to identify rapist, and then expecting the government to do something about it. What?

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Found the above from a post on X. Sorry to keep beating this drum but I can't find a decent answer for the silence of these victims.

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The only thing that makes sense is that these women were paid off/NDA'ed to death.

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I get that, but wouldn't those NDAs only apply to Epstein's estate? Or is there some massive fund put together by the perps to buy their silence?

Also, if they took the money then it seems they lost a lot of the moral high ground here. They accepted $$$ for silence and are now working to undermine that deal.

Larry Summers was texting Epstein up to July 5, 2019, the day before his arrest.

Summers wanted advice on leveraging into bed a Chinese economist whose father is a senior CCP official Summers supported & flattered🤦‍♂️

She was almost certainly playing Summers.

Per @thecrimson https://t.co/Oxate4VSVL pic.twitter.com/zvCNBAaYoj

— Michael Lucci (@Michael7ucci) November 17, 2025

Something did.

It is truly bizarre.

Seems to be alot of "outrage" from Dems debating this bill because "Trump can release the files today!!!".

Where was this rage during the Biden administration?