Ted Cruz could use your help prepping for his next Tucker Carlson interview.Jet White said:bmks270 said:
Iran fully surrenders and demilitarizes voluntarily, or Iran is annihilated and demilitarized involuntarily.
When we say "annihilated", how much of the 92 million population are we looking to kill?
The Logical Progression of This Action
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I can understand your concern, but you are just being gaslighted and had anti Israel propaganda for a long time.
Look at through reality not through propaganda or MSM leftist bias.
Israel has never attacked a country for offensive purposes.
Who had been attacking who here?
Who has refused to even accept Israel's right to exist as a state?
Who took over our embassy and held captive over 400 hostage for over year, totally unprovoked?
Who want to establish an Islamic calligphate and either Kill, enslave or convert the Infidels, And we are the infidels?
I could go on and on.
Look at through reality not through propaganda or MSM leftist bias.
Israel has never attacked a country for offensive purposes.
Who had been attacking who here?
Who has refused to even accept Israel's right to exist as a state?
Who took over our embassy and held captive over 400 hostage for over year, totally unprovoked?
Who want to establish an Islamic calligphate and either Kill, enslave or convert the Infidels, And we are the infidels?
I could go on and on.
kb2001 said:They have a tendency to cooperate when the enemy is Jews and Americasamurai_science said:Which Islam? The ones who support Iran or the ones who hate them?Muktheduck said:Infection_Ag11 said:
There aren't many steps after this
Iran does literally anything that results in the deaths of Americans or significant damage to American facilities in the Middle East/Gulf
America and Israel take out Iran's oil fields
Iran's economy collapses and the regime ceases to exist
The end
Not the end
You think that Islam won't see this as a holy war?
An old Arab saying that became fundamental to Islam, even to non-Arab Muslims like Iranians
Me against my brother
My family against the clan
The clan against the tribe
The tribe against the world
All of us against the infidels
That's a cute rallying cry but … what's actually happening in the real world? During Trump 1.0 we saw multiple nations sign treaties with Israel and others were moving towards doing the same. From the start of Israel's attacks we saw nations give passive support in allowing IAF planes to use their airspace and/or indicate a willingness to help with missile defense.
What didn't we see? We didn't see anyone start lobbing bombs at Israel in a show of solidarity with Iran. Nobody saw this as a chance to help Iran wipe Israel off the map. If they didn't come to Iran's aid against Israel they are far less likely to do so against the U.S. while there's speculation Israel may be strained militarily with this onslaught there's no such question with us.
This is simple, really. Iran is a pariah in the region and their neighbors are tired of it. Maybe, this is probably wishful thinking on my part, maybe the region is tired of jihad and terrorism and the disaster that is life in that region. The goal of the Abraham Accords has been to isolate Iran and it's possible the region's response to this is an indication that mindset is setting in.
Iran is like TexAgs on steroids. They are perpetual victims trapped in paranoia within an echo chamber. Don't expect them to ever listen to reason. Their feelings matter to them, facts not so much.
Remember that gas panic about 8-9 years ago?
The rumor that "OMG we were out of gas!!!" got out on Facebook after a hurricane hit the refineries. Within a few hours people all across Texas were loosing their minds and gas stations were pumped dry ALL over the place.
I remember it well because I had to go to several different gas stations just to be able to fill my truck for an otherwise simple work trip from Dallas to SA. It took about a week for things to settle back to normal....
Not saying thats going to happen today or this week, that is just a real world example that illustrates how fast things can go from normal to full freak out mode.
The rumor that "OMG we were out of gas!!!" got out on Facebook after a hurricane hit the refineries. Within a few hours people all across Texas were loosing their minds and gas stations were pumped dry ALL over the place.
I remember it well because I had to go to several different gas stations just to be able to fill my truck for an otherwise simple work trip from Dallas to SA. It took about a week for things to settle back to normal....
Not saying thats going to happen today or this week, that is just a real world example that illustrates how fast things can go from normal to full freak out mode.
Queso1 said:
I don't know if Iran was close to developing a bomb. I have to trust the same government that told me Saddam had WMDs and that regime change would work. But, Iran is a dangerous supporter of terrorism. Beyond that I don't know. But I don't think any of it is trivial. I feel some on here don't understand what's going on.
I think this is fair. For what it's worth we know for a fact they had WMD at some point because they used them. What we don't know is if they still had them particularly after we gave them like 9 months to get rid of them. Regime change was always the goal and we should have been honest about it.
Who attacked a Navy warship killed 30 sailors wounded 170 and tried to kill them all. Multiple waves of attacks with no question it was American. Machine gunning the wounded in the water so close they could see the pilots eye color. That's not me saying that sailors interviewed on several podcast all fighting thru tears to relive that horror.OPAG said:
I can understand your concern, but you are just being gaslighted and had anti Israel propaganda for a long time.
Look at through reality not through propaganda or MSM leftist bias.
Israel has never attacked a country for offensive purposes.
Who had been attacking who here?
Who has refused to even accept Israel's right to exist as a state?
Who took over our embassy and held captive over 400 hostage for over year, totally unprovoked?
Who want to establish an Islamic calligphate and either Kill, enslave or convert the Infidels, And we are the infidels?
I could go on and on.
For sure propaganda on both sides but I'm sure you can see my skepticism when I've been a Cruz fan my entire life and have to watch him squirm and hold it all together to not admit he gets money from Israel to shape our foreign policy. He has always kept his cool he has never had the deer in the head lights look that he had during that Interview.
Iran is a bad actor but Israel isn't great either. But I do admire them they will use everything they can to get what they want they have no friends and are willing to screw anyone over if it advances their cause.
Iran has won the toss and elected to receive!
Insert your favorite pic of a tomahawk missile or B2 in your mind...
Insert your favorite pic of a tomahawk missile or B2 in your mind...
nortex97 said:
Working to keep their subjects suppressed.Iran has intensified nighttime urban patrols as part of increased security measures during ongoing conflict, government spokesperson Fatemeh Mohajerani said on Sunday.
— Iran International English (@IranIntl_En) June 22, 2025
According to Mohajerani, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and the paramilitary Basij force have…
Looks like leadership is broadcasting bravado from some sort of Iranian Motel 6-like facility now:Iranian media releases video of Mohammad Pakpour, the commander of the IRGC, making new threats from his war room pic.twitter.com/NAFCtqrDj2
— Michael A. Horowitz (@michaelh992) June 22, 2025
There are no threats included in this video, if interested, the IRGC guy just talks a bit praising the efforts of the martyred people, then says that these attacks and bombardments will increase the togetherness of the Iranian people and that efforts are ongoing to get some of their Basij units ready and make sure that Iran is well organized.
TBH it's just a typical press conference with nothing exciting
Dear Bibi:
Please dispatch these 3 vermin and their underlings.
Thank you.
Signed: The World.
Please dispatch these 3 vermin and their underlings.
Thank you.
Signed: The World.
Except in the next step it's not Iran we're worried about. Events at this level don't exist in a vacuum. If taking out Iran was an option without potentially serious global consequences then it would have been done long ago. We couldn't allow them to have a nuclear weapon and hopefully we can believe the intel they're giving the public but people are wary since the whole WMD thing. So much for a peaceful 4 years. This should be one of the sole focuses of this administration now….and not stupid crap like a special counsel for the 2020 election.Infection_Ag11 said:
There aren't many steps after this
Iran does literally anything that results in the deaths of Americans or significant damage to American facilities in the Middle East/Gulf
America and Israel take out Iran's oil fields
Iran's economy collapses and the regime ceases to exist
The end
Iraq used WMDs against both Iran and the Kurds
dont forget to change your profile pictures from the Uke flag to NO MORE WAR.
BluHorseShu said:Except in the next step it's not Iran we're worried about. Events at this level don't exist in a vacuum. If taking out Iran was an option without potentially serious global consequences then it would have been done long ago. We couldn't allow them to have a nuclear weapon and hopefully we can believe the intel they're giving the public but people are wary since the whole WMD thing. So much for a peaceful 4 years. This should be one of the sole focuses of this administration now….and not stupid crap like a special counsel for the 2020 election.Infection_Ag11 said:
There aren't many steps after this
Iran does literally anything that results in the deaths of Americans or significant damage to American facilities in the Middle East/Gulf
America and Israel take out Iran's oil fields
Iran's economy collapses and the regime ceases to exist
The end
They can do multiple things at once…,,,
Why do people keep referring the USS Liberty incident like that's Israels policy and they do these acts every year to the us? Such a weird thing that keeps getting brought up by people who don't like Isarel like some sort of gotcha.
Sid Farkas said:
How many embedded terror cells (enabled by the Biden/Harris/Majorkis axis of evil) will attack innocent Americans on the homeland?
That is really the only concern. Carry and pay attention.
I could be very wrong, but I don't think that there is much risk of sleeper cell attacks in the US.
Iran has always promised that such attacks would follow any strikes on their nuclear facilities. Most of the concern was in Europe. However, I don't think they expected the Israelis to so quickly gain air superiority. Iran is completely vulnerable and risking bringing in a European and American coalition with terror attacks would result in a far worse outcome.
They're hoping Europe will pressure the Israelis to cease offensive actions and hope that the US is limiting involvement to the few strikes we conducted.
Iran has always promised that such attacks would follow any strikes on their nuclear facilities. Most of the concern was in Europe. However, I don't think they expected the Israelis to so quickly gain air superiority. Iran is completely vulnerable and risking bringing in a European and American coalition with terror attacks would result in a far worse outcome.
They're hoping Europe will pressure the Israelis to cease offensive actions and hope that the US is limiting involvement to the few strikes we conducted.
I am no flag raising Israeli, and I know they have are not a clean in their relationship with us and are not clean in general.Haleyscomet50 said:Who attacked a Navy warship killed 30 sailors wounded 170 and tried to kill them all. Multiple waves of attacks with no question it was American. Machine gunning the wounded in the water so close they could see the pilots eye color. That's not me saying that sailors interviewed on several podcast all fighting thru tears to relive that horror.OPAG said:
I can understand your concern, but you are just being gaslighted and had anti Israel propaganda for a long time.
Look at through reality not through propaganda or MSM leftist bias.
Israel has never attacked a country for offensive purposes.
Who had been attacking who here?
Who has refused to even accept Israel's right to exist as a state?
Who took over our embassy and held captive over 400 hostage for over year, totally unprovoked?
Who want to establish an Islamic calligphate and either Kill, enslave or convert the Infidels, And we are the infidels?
I could go on and on.
For sure propaganda on both sides but I'm sure you can see my skepticism when I've been a Cruz fan my entire life and have to watch him squirm and hold it all together to not admit he gets money from Israel to shape our foreign policy. He has always kept his cool he has never had the deer in the head lights look that he had during that Interview.
Iran is a bad actor but Israel isn't great either. But I do admire them they will use everything they can to get what they want they have no friends and are willing to screw anyone over if it advances their cause.
We haven't exactly been clean either! No nation is.
No nation state has been targeted more by the UN than Israel, They have been forced to yield land that became Gaza and the West Bank. Which was turned into a military base against Israel..
I think the standards that Israel is held up to is little bit higher than others. Genocide all over the place, Even the Hamas will kill there own with impunity, It's the way of Islam. the sword.
Yet only let Israel gets called out, over and over again. Why?
Nm
31 year old white dude per Daily Mail, so probably unrelated
Exactly. It's lslamic extremism that is the enemy, not the country they are operating from.BluHorseShu said:Except in the next step it's not Iran we're worried about. Events at this level don't exist in a vacuum. If taking out Iran was an option without potentially serious global consequences then it would have been done long ago. We couldn't allow them to have a nuclear weapon and hopefully we can believe the intel they're giving the public but people are wary since the whole WMD thing. So much for a peaceful 4 years. This should be one of the sole focuses of this administration now….and not stupid crap like a special counsel for the 2020 election.Infection_Ag11 said:
There aren't many steps after this
Iran does literally anything that results in the deaths of Americans or significant damage to American facilities in the Middle East/Gulf
America and Israel take out Iran's oil fields
Iran's economy collapses and the regime ceases to exist
The end
Is my betagdoc2001 said:
31 year old whitedudetrans per Daily Mail, so probably unrelated
Sea Speed said:BREAKING: US military now briefing troops that its strike on Iran "will likely result in counterstrikes on US bases and facilities" in the Middle East, and "likely activate Iran and other foreign terrorist organizations cells abroad including the US to conduct strikes against US…
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 22, 2025
Not a fan of this bombing at all, and you would have to be insane to not think this is the logical next step in the escalation.
The MSM is really pushing this narrative right now.
It would be irresponsible to not brief and prepare for any kind of retaliation that Iran could muster. Still, preparing for it doesn't mean that Iran has any real capability to retaliate, especially in an overt manner that will bring down it massive reaction. It's the way of Islam. This is how you beat it. Overwhelming fire power. If they know that is coming they will, wisely pull back and seek to do things of a covert nature.MooreTrucker said:Sea Speed said:BREAKING: US military now briefing troops that its strike on Iran "will likely result in counterstrikes on US bases and facilities" in the Middle East, and "likely activate Iran and other foreign terrorist organizations cells abroad including the US to conduct strikes against US…
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 22, 2025
Not a fan of this bombing at all, and you would have to be insane to not think this is the logical next step in the escalation.
The MSM is really pushing this narrative right now.
OPAG said:It would be irresponsible to not brief and prepare for any kind of retaliation that Iran could muster. Still, preparing for it doesn't mean that Iran has any real capability to retaliate, especially in an overt manner that will bring down it massive reaction. It's the way of Islam. This is how you beat it. Overwhelming fire power. If they know that is coming they will, wisely pull back and seek to do things of a covert nature.MooreTrucker said:Sea Speed said:BREAKING: US military now briefing troops that its strike on Iran "will likely result in counterstrikes on US bases and facilities" in the Middle East, and "likely activate Iran and other foreign terrorist organizations cells abroad including the US to conduct strikes against US…
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) June 22, 2025
Not a fan of this bombing at all, and you would have to be insane to not think this is the logical next step in the escalation.
The MSM is really pushing this narrative right now.
Just seems like fear-mongering to me. Even the Qatar "retaliation " has been deemed to be a big buncha nothing.
Yep, totally LOL!
It's the covert stuff that we need to keep our eyes and ears open for!
It's the covert stuff that we need to keep our eyes and ears open for!
They have the capacity to....let's hope they have the fortitude.samurai_science said:BluHorseShu said:Except in the next step it's not Iran we're worried about. Events at this level don't exist in a vacuum. If taking out Iran was an option without potentially serious global consequences then it would have been done long ago. We couldn't allow them to have a nuclear weapon and hopefully we can believe the intel they're giving the public but people are wary since the whole WMD thing. So much for a peaceful 4 years. This should be one of the sole focuses of this administration now….and not stupid crap like a special counsel for the 2020 election.Infection_Ag11 said:
There aren't many steps after this
Iran does literally anything that results in the deaths of Americans or significant damage to American facilities in the Middle East/Gulf
America and Israel take out Iran's oil fields
Iran's economy collapses and the regime ceases to exist
The end
They can do multiple things at once…,,,
JohnClark929 said:
Iran is like TexAgs on steroids. They are perpetual victims trapped in paranoia within an echo chamber. Don't expect them to ever listen to reason. Their feelings matter to them, facts not so much.
Do Iran have a board?