Are we going to strike Iran

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wessimo
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John McCain would be giddy
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Brush Country Ag said:

We moved our B-2 bombers to Diego Garcia (?) not long ago . I don't think Trump or Netanyahu EVER thought diplomacy would workjust had to check that box. Oil is jumping today…think it's going to happen.

I believe they were replaced with B-52's. However, B-2's have done international delivery before.
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Claude! said:

I'd be surprised if we directly first strike Iran, but I wouldn't be surprised if Israel gets a lot of under the table support when they do so.
We are 100% paying for it, whether it is direct action or proxy through Israel.
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Ag in Tiger Country said:

I saw a TikTok video yesterday from a reliable source for military-themed content that Iran was importing & hording fuel for their estimated 800 ballistic missiles capable of reaching targets throughout the Middle East & into lower Europe.

Based upon that, I'd say a military conflict with Iran will occur; the "when" is the only unknown variable.

And FWIW, Trump's call to Putin allegedly dedicated a lot of time to this topic, with Russia allegedly agreeing to not intervene or support Iran, especially since so many Middle Eastern countries who are on good terms with Russia have been identified as Iranian targets. Also, Russia's relationship with China is apparently showing signs of strain & conflict (which is historical & nothing new frankly); therefore, Iran's only 'guaranteed' allies at this point is Yemen, MAYBE Turkey to some extent, South Africa, some other unimportant African nations, & China (via proxy).
The good news for Europe is that about half their population now is Muslim and all have ties to Iran, etc. or at minimum will have deep loyalty.

So they have that issue to chew on.
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schmellba99 said:

Ag in Tiger Country said:

I saw a TikTok video yesterday from a reliable source for military-themed content that Iran was importing & hording fuel for their estimated 800 ballistic missiles capable of reaching targets throughout the Middle East & into lower Europe.

Based upon that, I'd say a military conflict with Iran will occur; the "when" is the only unknown variable.

And FWIW, Trump's call to Putin allegedly dedicated a lot of time to this topic, with Russia allegedly agreeing to not intervene or support Iran, especially since so many Middle Eastern countries who are on good terms with Russia have been identified as Iranian targets. Also, Russia's relationship with China is apparently showing signs of strain & conflict (which is historical & nothing new frankly); therefore, Iran's only 'guaranteed' allies at this point is Yemen, MAYBE Turkey to some extent, South Africa, some other unimportant African nations, & China (via proxy).
The good news for Europe is that about half their population now is Muslim and all have ties to Iran, etc. or at minimum will have deep loyalty.

So they have that issue to chew on.
Meh. Pretty obvious the regime doesn't give a **** about the people in their own country so I doubt they'll care much about Iranians living in foreign countries.
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AggieP18 said:

Although not this easy, I'd like to think we could precision bomb all the openings to the facility and shut it off from the above ground world.
Bunker busters baby.
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Gaeilge said:

schmellba99 said:

Ag in Tiger Country said:

I saw a TikTok video yesterday from a reliable source for military-themed content that Iran was importing & hording fuel for their estimated 800 ballistic missiles capable of reaching targets throughout the Middle East & into lower Europe.

Based upon that, I'd say a military conflict with Iran will occur; the "when" is the only unknown variable.

And FWIW, Trump's call to Putin allegedly dedicated a lot of time to this topic, with Russia allegedly agreeing to not intervene or support Iran, especially since so many Middle Eastern countries who are on good terms with Russia have been identified as Iranian targets. Also, Russia's relationship with China is apparently showing signs of strain & conflict (which is historical & nothing new frankly); therefore, Iran's only 'guaranteed' allies at this point is Yemen, MAYBE Turkey to some extent, South Africa, some other unimportant African nations, & China (via proxy).
The good news for Europe is that about half their population now is Muslim and all have ties to Iran, etc. or at minimum will have deep loyalty.

So they have that issue to chew on.
Meh. Pretty obvious the regime doesn't give a **** about the people in their own country so I doubt they'll care much about Iranians living in foreign countries.
I was speaking more in terms of what may happen in the country itself if things go hot, and what would happen if Iran did something really stupid like launch a missle into Europe - more along the lines of the foxes are in the henhouse now so what would the fallout be? As in, a whole lot of muslims who hate the west living in the west type of scenario.

Not much different than the 20mm illegals we have here doing what they are currently doing in LA and probably about to be more cities.
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Gotcha
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Who?mikejones!
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The pizza meter is going off. The pizza meter, for those that don't know, might be the best predictor of potential happenings.
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I mentioned just a couple of weeks ago that Austria directly contradicted Tulsi's claim that our intelligence services had determined that Iran was not pursuing a bomb.

Austria said Iran was in fact pursuing a bomb and are very close to completing one. Less than 24 hours after Tulsi said they weren't.

Got a lot of crap about that.

Guess what?
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There is a lot of smoke from a lot of different areas the suggest something is afoot
Champion of Fireball
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Some pro Israel sites I follow are saying they are ramping up. That things could kick over very soon. Milei is moving an embassy there.
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jt2hunt
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Wouldn't Israel be the one to strike Iran?
Im Gipper
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Consider who gave you crap about it.

It was a badge of honor to wear!

Lots of ostriches on Iran out there!

I'm Gipper
AtticusMatlock
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Yes. Doubtful US would be directly involved.
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Nobody likes war, but sometimes there are no other choices.

And this won't be a war. Iran can be ended in less than a week if we choose it.

And once and for all, we need to end their radical leadership. This one absolutely does affect us and the entire rest of the world.

These guys believe that they are responsible for ushering in the end of the world and that they will be rewarded for it if they do so.

They are building a nuclear weapon in order to use it and use it immediately.

Simply can't let people like that exist
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I dunno about that.

We might not drop the bomb, but, id bet a dollar we will be providing Intel, fuel and munitions
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Who?mikejones! said:

I dunno about that.

We might not drop the bomb, but, id bet a dollar we will be providing Intel, fuel and munitions

I hope we do
BlackGold
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We should not get involved. Christ.
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History doesn't play well to those who **** with our boats
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BlackGold said:

We should not get involved. Christ.

We absolutely need to lead on this, 100%
Martels Hammer
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Saudi also wants a strike to happen to "correct" the price of oil by taking out a supplier.
BlackGold
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I mean there is no way we can't not be involved if Israel is and/or there are nuclear weapons on the table. It's total bs.
Jason C.
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4 said:

BlackGold said:

We should not get involved. Christ.

We absolutely need to lead on this, 100%

Haha. Good Lord the hard on some of you have for non-essential foreign belligerence is crazy. If Israel wants to blow them up, go ahead (I hope they don't) - but there's no US interest whatsoever in getting us involved too.
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Jason C. said:

4 said:

BlackGold said:

We should not get involved. Christ.

We absolutely need to lead on this, 100%

Haha. Good Lord the hard on some of you have for non-essential foreign belligerence is crazy. If Israel wants to blow them up, go ahead (I hope they don't) - but there's no US interest whatsoever in getting us involved too.

Of course there is.

Iran has already proven they are willing to attack our ships and servicemen using conventional weapons.

You want an enemy that targets us regularly to develop a nuclear weapon that they have sworn to use if they can?

There's actual evil in the world. These guys are the epitome of it.

If you can't understand why we need to do everything in our power to destroy their ability to wipe out millions of people in one shot, I don't know what to tell you.
AtticusMatlock
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They aren't exactly supportive of Iran, either.

If there were to be a strike by Israel this would be the time as a lot of Iranian proxies are very weak. Hez is decimated. Hamas is decimated. Al-Assad is gone. Their encirclement by proxy strategy is falling apart. The Houthis are occasionally lobbing a missile but probably not in the mass required to cause Israel a big concern. The big concern from Israel in any sort of attack against Iran was always going to be coordinated retaliation from the proxies.

The biggest issue now is Iran does have some very good ballistic missile technology and a lot of them, and they've learned from the years of United States reliance on airstrikes to bury their key facilities underground. North Korea and Iran have been working together to develop deep digging operations in both countries for this very purpose.
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Who?mikejones! said:


I've lost count of how many times they've claimed this over the past what, three decades?

Only the dumbest people actually believe it at this point. The American people are tired of these dumb ass wars.
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4 said:

Jason C. said:

4 said:

BlackGold said:

We should not get involved. Christ.

We absolutely need to lead on this, 100%

Haha. Good Lord the hard on some of you have for non-essential foreign belligerence is crazy. If Israel wants to blow them up, go ahead (I hope they don't) - but there's no US interest whatsoever in getting us involved too.

Of course there is.

Iran has already proven they are willing to attack our ships and servicemen using conventional weapons.

You want an enemy that targets us regularly to develop a nuclear weapon that they have sworn to use if they can?

There's actual evil in the world. These guys are the epitome of it.

If you can't understand why we need to do everything in our power to destroy their ability to wipe out millions of people in one shot, I don't know what to tell you.


Anyone that thinks Iran won't use a nuke either directly or by proxy hasn't been paying attention. Check out the following video detailing about 18 months of engagement with Iran backed Houthis. It is about 45 minutes long but worth it.

Jason C.
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Who?mikejones!
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Tucker opinion is rather irrelevant
 
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