ICE and Home Depot....

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In reply to The Fall Guy • 12:38p, 7/2/25
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Bobaloo said:
Visiting my mom in Dallas this weekend. ICE would have a field day in Dallas.


Sorry those browns scare you. Lol


What scares me is that our country may turn into 3rd world.
Lots of Muslim immigrants, once they become powerful want sharia law. Once "brown" immigrants become powerful and rich , they want the patron system. It's the way they know!!!
Hell you got brown traffickers now, exploiting their brethren, and liberals tend to ignore it. Mankind is not good, but at least we have tried to go by our constitution and keeps us somewhat in check. These mofos coming now want power only for themselves. You can shove a lot of that better life business. It ain't true.


Wow. I've said this before and I mean this in a caring and intervention type of way…you gotta step away from the media and news. Turn Facebook off. Turn Fox News off. Stop reading texags doom and gloom echo chamber here. Go to the religion board or something. It's going to be ok. You gotta chill.

This country won't last forever but it is not crumbling and isn't disappearing anytime soon. Seriously. It's going to be ok.


This. Once you step away from the news and get outside it's amazing that life is not all doom and gloom.



I'm sure putting their head in the sand worked well for Western Europe.
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12:38p, 7/2/25
I made good money mowing lawns in high school in the late 80s charging $40 for a half acre lot. Moved up to installing sprinkler systems in 1989. Got licensed my junior year of high school and charged $400 per zone in 1991.

I got an engineering degree and didn't need to work in the heat all summer and let my license lapse. 15 years later I owned my own house with a .75 acre lot and paid the same $40 for lawn service. Sprinkler installers were still charging $400 per zone but all their crews were illegals.

I suspect you could find legal workers to mow the typical .25 acre suburban lot for $125 (+tax) per mowing.

What does that translate to for a sole proprietorship?

At $125 per yard, 5 yards a day, 5 days a week, 30 weeks a year (fall and winter you aren't mowing every week). = $93,750 per year. Sounds like a good wage until you subtract credit card processing fees, vehicle, trailer, and lawn equipment costs, then insurance and bonds.

Pay anything less and the guy in the linkedin rant was literally exploiting his lawn crew turned family member.

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12:42p, 7/2/25


See what happens when there's no illegals?

Poor white lady forced to use her trash bin as a trailer.

Loads it up with bags of rock, secures it with duct tape and drives off like it's nothing.
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In reply to Jason_Roofer • 12:44p, 7/2/25
Jason_Roofer said:
In my experience, the base driver for creating the market for illegals is the American consumer. I can't tell you how many people get bids from me and my competitors and then go out and find some guy in a 30 year old truck with out of state plates and tell me "I found a guy that is 30% less than you!" Yeah? No kidding?! Wow!

Consumers have created a cheap labor market. We love Amazon junk. It's cheap. We love Walmart. It's cheap. We love it when we perceive to get the same product for less.

Here's a pro tip….you aren't getting the same product and service for cheap. There is a minimum profit margin required to run a legitimate business and no one is dropping that to accommodate cheap customers or those that can't afford the service.

People not in the trades have little idea of costs but just remember, we all buy materials from the same suppliers and your big names are getting material discounts from volume….there is only one place to cut costs after that.
Jason you left out one other "benefit" you get with the illegal crews over your guys.

A seemingly never ending supply of roofing nails in your yard because they didn't bother to pick up after themselves.

I am not kidding when I say that I found 1, only 1 nail in my yard after your guys finished.. well 6 or so months after they finished..
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In reply to pdc093 • 12:49p, 7/2/25
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TIME TO PUSH BACK.
This is outrageous....
. Federal charges for that mofo
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 1:01p, 7/2/25
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See what happens when there's no illegals?

Poor white lady forced to use her trash bin as a trailer.

Loads it up with bags of rock, secures it with duct tape and drives off like it's nothing.

She don't need no man.

Besides, she looked Asian.
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In reply to 87IE • 4:04p, 7/2/25
87IE said:
Jason_Roofer said:
In my experience, the base driver for creating the market for illegals is the American consumer. I can't tell you how many people get bids from me and my competitors and then go out and find some guy in a 30 year old truck with out of state plates and tell me "I found a guy that is 30% less than you!" Yeah? No kidding?! Wow!

Consumers have created a cheap labor market. We love Amazon junk. It's cheap. We love Walmart. It's cheap. We love it when we perceive to get the same product for less.

Here's a pro tip….you aren't getting the same product and service for cheap. There is a minimum profit margin required to run a legitimate business and no one is dropping that to accommodate cheap customers or those that can't afford the service.

People not in the trades have little idea of costs but just remember, we all buy materials from the same suppliers and your big names are getting material discounts from volume….there is only one place to cut costs after that.
Jason you left out one other "benefit" you get with the illegal crews over your guys.

A seemingly never ending supply of roofing nails in your yard because they didn't bother to pick up after themselves.

I am not kidding when I say that I found 1, only 1 nail in my yard after your guys finished.. well 6 or so months after they finished..


I appreciate hearing that. My guys have been with us for 20 years. Sure some come and go but the foreman has been doing mine and others for 20 years. They only get paid one time to do that roof, and they know I'm going to send them back out for free if a customer finds a bunch of nails or something that needs correction. I fully understand that there are 21,000 nails on the roof and many of those fall off, but a reasonable effort to collect them is superior to having an otherwise good experience damaged by having someone's pet or child get a roofing nail in the foot. I know, I step on them monthly and they go nearly all the way through my work boots, completely through tennis shoes. Soft foam sandles….its going to bleed.
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