Karmelo Anthony murder trial

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This is the least shocking thing ever.

I wonder had KA just admitted to it and said he overreacted and his parents wouldn't have made a spectacle of it all if he would have gotten a plea bargain. If He owns it immediately and his parents don't run to the press and get the race baiters he probably could have gotten manslaughter and 15 years.

The media attention would have been pretty small so the DA could have gotten away with a plea bargain.
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Yep, there was a window where with the right amount of heart-felt contrition, I think he could have pled to 20-25 and in doing so also put himself in much better shape for the initial parole hearings. Instead, from the outset, his thug family decided to attack the victims and tried to win a race war in Collin County. That was never happening
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Also, Austin's family was very forgiving initially. The thoughts of the victim's family are HUGE. Probably could have been paroled by age 30
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Bocephus said:

Slicer97 said:

Yep. Trash kid because he was raised by trash people. Couldn't even be bothered to stick around for their kid's sentencing. Hope they end up destitute.


Ding ding ding


They aren't welcome in this town. I hope they GTFO and take their garbage friends with them.
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backintexas2013 said:

This is the least shocking thing ever.

I wonder had KA just admitted to it and said he overreacted and his parents wouldn't have made a spectacle of it all if he would have gotten a plea bargain. If He owns it immediately and his parents don't run to the press and get the race baiters he probably could have gotten manslaughter and 15 years.

The media attention would have been pretty small so the DA could have gotten away with a plea bargain.

Yeah, that manslaughter was even an option is messed up. There is no question Marshmello killed someone, someone young as well. Stabbed him in the heart. The only option is he shouid lose his life in return. No life in prison, no manslaughter. We coddle bad guys. But we have so many soft on crime folks now.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

Also, Austin's family was very forgiving initially. The thoughts of the victim's family are HUGE. Probably could have been paroled by age 30


Well maybe. I recall that they, like other similar victim families, were threatened to not be inflammatory if they wanted any type of effort being put into prosecution.

I can't prove the above but I bet we find out this was true many years from now. Just like most things, the truth comes out but well after the fact.
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Sorry, but "we won't put in the effort" is ridiculous. Not in Collin County; they aren't sandbagging the prosecution here. And his dad did it almost immediately, as in the day of the crime and day after he's doing interviews with local news reporters that he's forgiven Anthony. He was not pushed into that by the prosecution. No victim is. Now once the harassment started, I'm sure they didn't want it escalated to a back and forth, but his forgiveness came before anything. The harassment then started after that. If instead there had been complete contrition from Anthony and his family and you also have the victim's family supporting it, I anticipate an offer substantially less than 35
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I'm saying what may have happened not what I think should have happened. In all but three states he would have been treated as a juvenile and they would have had to certify him up. Texas just happens to be one of the three where 17 is the age of adulthood in the laws of the criminal justice system.
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backintexas2013 said:

I'm saying what may have happened not what I think should have happened. In all but three states he would have been treated as a juvenile and they would have had to certify him up. Texas just happens to be one of the three where 17 is the age of adulthood in the laws of the criminal justice system.

I understand the point you were making, sorry if it came off the wrong way. I just think we are way too lenient on criminals and that only leads to repeat offenders and people who don't fear the repercussions of their actions.
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Enrico Pallazzo said:

Sorry, but "we won't put in the effort" is ridiculous. Not in Collin County. And his dad did it almost immediately, as in the day of the crime and day after he's doing interviews with local news reporter that he's forgiven Anthony. He was not pushed into that by the prosecution. No victim is.

Austin's family is correct, hate will eat your soul until all that is inside of you is emptiness. Forgive, do not forget. Seek justice, live well and be happy. This is the way. It is not easy, nothing is.
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Agree and very tough to do. I couldn't do it. And a big reason for that is that I am a believer that in order to receive forgiveness, it first must be sought.
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I was talking about that is SS class this morning. Redemption is for people who quit doing whatever caused them to need it. Unrepentant thugs do not want forgiveness. They just want to be thugs.
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forgiveness is not for them. it is for you. holding onto unforgiveness is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die. it also, according to scripture, harms your personal walk with Christ.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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AgBQ-00 said:

forgiveness is not for them. it is for you. holding onto unforgiveness is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die. it also, according to scripture, harms your personal walk with Christ.
Excellent response. Not sure I could do it, but a worthy goal.
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The replies in this thread are GOLD!!
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Parody news site.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Parody news site.

I know. I still laughed.
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Doesn't really show what the tweet claims, but I'd assume this was the video that was often mentioned before and during the trial.

Edit: For clarification, it doesn't clearly show the stabbing, just that something physical occurred under the tent.

Edit: Another video that was released.



"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:



Doesn't really show what the tweet claims, but I'd assume this was the video that was often mentioned before and during the trial.

I believe it does. At the 2 second point, he was in front of the tent reaching into his bag, he walked back into the tent then reappeared exiting the tent at the 13 second point running away after the murder.
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I really don't think "he put his hands of me" is the legal defense certain people want it to be.

Kind of like requiring body cams. Be careful what you wish for.
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Note the day it was released.
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That officer could not have been kinder to him. You would have thought he was a victim, or that he was caught jaywalking at worst. But the "cops are racist and just want to hurt black men" crowd will never see it and would probably find something else to ***** about if they did.
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torrid said:

Note the day it was released.


Hellya…speaking truth to power
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Rapier108 said:



So much for a "cleat sharpener".
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The internet seems to think he was convicted on the basis of that grainy video.
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You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.
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fc2112 said:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

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fc2112 said:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.
He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.
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If you saw his grandma speak, you know he was raised by Ghetto regardless of the neighborhood he lived in

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He sounded like a scared kid in that video. This was terrible situation all around.
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Queso1 said:

He sounded like a scared kid in that video. This was terrible situation all around.

After committing a murder and having cops chase you, you ought to be scared.

When he wasn't scared is 5 minutes earlier when he thought he was all gangster and stabbing a white boy.
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richardag said:

fc2112 said:

You know, you don't just lash out and stab someone in the heart when he puts his hands on you as your first violent act of your life. You work up to that.

You start by observing a certain level of violence in your everyday life that is acceptable and ramp up from there. Violence against you to start, then violence you commit on others that is viewed as ok, if not even encouraged, in your family and community.

It's just how people in your community settle their conflicts - the biggest, fastest, and quickest to attack will win - he gets the prize and the women. You grow into this just being an acceptable form of conflict resolution, since you see it all around you and it is encouraged.

And it explains why so many in The Community are standing by him - they don't see an issue with stabbing someone in the heart because he puts his hands on you. The way KA settled this is well within the bounds of acceptable behavior to them.

He wasn't raised in a ghetto so I really doubt your scenario.


Its not the street you're raised on, it's the street your elders were raised on.
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Queso1 said:

He sounded like a scared kid in that video. This was terrible situation all around.


Good lord, he's a ****ing murderer. He's a little ***** and I hope he's treated like one in prison. He's no victim.
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Look, I could respect a scared and contrite young man who knows and owns that he made a terrible, horrible choice to end another's life. I could even feel a little empathy, but that wouldn't change the consequence.

However, we haven't seen any evidence of that at all. We have seen defensiveness, victimhood, defiance, arrogance. We have seen him refuse to look up once during impact statements from the father and the brother of the young man he murdered. All we have seen is a coward worthy of no respect, and no empathy.

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Queso1 said:

He sounded like a scared kid in that video. This was terrible situation all around.
He ****ed around. He found out.

He shouldn't have set out to kill someone that day.
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