- Abraham Lincoln
Because there is no constitutional support for giving them notice, much less a month.will25u said:
It is just going to be back at the SCOTUS soon. The activist judges are going to say AEA criminals get a month notice and Trump admin will appeal again since they want 24 hours or less.
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
How in the hell is it so damn difficult to deport illegals? Common sense says that giving illegals early notice allows them time to disappear. We are such a stupid country.
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
How in the hell is it so damn difficult to deport illegals? Common sense says that giving illegals early notice allows them time to disappear. We are such a stupid country.
No that is correct. The only justiciable issue under AEA lies in habeas which requires a fling with the court of competent jurisdiction over the custodian. That habeas proceeding is limited as tow whether they fall under the confines of the proclamation.will25u said:Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
How in the hell is it so damn difficult to deport illegals? Common sense says that giving illegals early notice allows them time to disappear. We are such a stupid country.
I may be misspeaking here, but this is in reference to after they've already been apprehended and are in detention. You're deporting them under aea, you have to give them some sort of notification that they can pursue a habeas claim before you can deport them
fifyIm Gipper said:
Updated Order!
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a1007_g2bh.pdfQuote:
To be clear, we decide today only that the detainees are entitled to more notice than was given on April 18, and we grant temporary injunctive relief to preserve our jurisdiction while the question of what notice is due is adjudicated. See post, at 13 (ALITO, J., dissenting). We did not on April 19and do not nowaddress the underlying merits of the parties' claims regarding the legality of removals under the AEA. We recognize the significance of the Government's national security interests as well as the necessity that such interests be pursued in a manner consistent with the Constitution. In light of the foregoing, lower courts should address AEA cases expeditiously.
I read that asQuote:
we really stepped IT in here, someone file something quickly so we can end this
Since the neither the district court, appeals court, nor SCOTUS have made any rulings on the merits of the case, you have no idea if the Trump admin has acted extra-judiciously.Gordo14 said:
If Trump didn't repeatedly act extra-judiciously on this, then maybe we wouldn't have the Supreme Court stepping in here.
Though annoying, this is nothing really more. It's SCOTUS saying they want a ruling from the 5th, so they can then do something. The annoying thing is that they, nor 5th have jurisdiction for further matters beyond a simple habeas claim, but really they want parameters in a ruling sent to them for what type of notice/process has to be followed under the AEA proclamation.aggiehawg said:No that is correct. The only justiciable issue under AEA lies in habeas which requires a fling with the court of competent jurisdiction over the custodian. That habeas proceeding is limited as tow whether they fall under the confines of the proclamation.will25u said:Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
How in the hell is it so damn difficult to deport illegals? Common sense says that giving illegals early notice allows them time to disappear. We are such a stupid country.
I may be misspeaking here, but this is in reference to after they've already been apprehended and are in detention. You're deporting them under aea, you have to give them some sort of notification that they can pursue a habeas claim before you can deport them
Gordo14 said:
If Trump didn't repeatedly act extra-judiciously on this, then maybe we wouldn't have the Supreme Court stepping in here.
Reddit has an interesting discussion. Looks like they were sued back in 2011 for buying stolen oil. 26,000 sq foot house in Utah. https://t.co/vF5dCnMy43 pic.twitter.com/gDtoCHNNBJ
— Spottswoode (@ferrarired77) May 23, 2025
CBS story:Quote:
The indictment states that they allegedly brought 2,881 shipments of crude oil into the United States, claiming it was falsely labelled "waste of lube oils" and "petroleum distillates."
In the warrant filed for James Jensen's arrest, authorities say that over $47 million has gone from him to Mexican businesses. They allege that he is "in business relationships with individuals he knows work with Mexican criminal organizations."
Lock 'em up.Quote:
A grand jury indicted Maxwell; his father, James Lael Jensen; his mother Kelly Anne Jensen; and his brother, Zachary Golden Jensen, in April.
They're charged with participating in a conspiracy to launder money linked to fraudulently imported crude oil.
The indictment also charged Maxwell and James with aiding and abetting the smuggling of goods and making false statements.
Details about the conspiracy surfaced in April and May, when members of the Jensen family appeared in court.
‘Voluntary dismissal’: Trump gets big win after 5th Circuit pauses disclosure orders in Alien Enemies Act case https://t.co/carMaaMRF3
— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) May 24, 2025
🚨Stephen Miller: "A local judge in Boston ordered the flight grounded and has now trapped ICE officers in Djibouti, with these savage monsters having to guard to protect them 24/7 in a location with no appropriate facilities, no detention space, no detention beds, nothing?!" pic.twitter.com/C8EaowggHa
— Derrick Evans (@DerrickEvans4WV) May 27, 2025
President Trump is pushing the Supreme Court to stop activist judges from blocking deportation flights of Venezuelan migrants under the Alien Enemies Act, amid claims of gang ties. With due process concerns fueling legal battles, could this set a new precedent for immigration…
— Tan 🍊 🇺🇸 (@realimtan) May 28, 2025
BREAKING: A fourth court has found that President Trump's invocation of the Alien Enemies Act was illegal, seeking to stretch the meaning of "invasion" beyond its plain meaning.
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 9, 2025
The ruling blocks AEA deportations in the Western District of Texas.https://t.co/47Xf2n7Rxt pic.twitter.com/uRCYkJsQvo
Gordo14 said:
If Trump didn't repeatedly act extra-judiciously on this, then maybe we wouldn't have the Supreme Court stepping in here.
JUST IN: Federal judge upholds 21-day notice requirement for potential deportee under the Alien Enemies Act. Judge Haines, a Trump appointee, lays out an hypothetical for why, say, 7 days would not be enough. https://t.co/8MqqAaZdi6 pic.twitter.com/80E6kOiCco
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 18, 2025
Ellis Wyatt said:
Judge Haines is making it up as he goes. Dummy.
Federal judges continue a make-it-up-as-we-go-along “due process” approach after SCOTUS claimed illegals covered under Alien Enemies Act are entitled to proper notice and relief.
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) June 20, 2025
The latest ad hoc decision is from a Trump judge who claims AEA subjects should get 21 day notice… pic.twitter.com/ae7PpsP7oA
ACLUS's Lee Gelernt representing illegal Venezuelans covered by AEA gets started.
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) June 30, 2025
Judge immediately interrupts asking if AEA is reviewable by the court. Demands to know on what basis the ACLU can claim the AEA is judicially reviewable. (I have covered this for months.)
Judges…
I just listened to the rest of this hearing. The judges have to contend with whether the Alien Enemies Act can be reviewed by the courts (almost all judges presiding over these cases agree to one degree or another it cannot)
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) June 30, 2025
I will say Judge Andrew Oldham (Trump) pretty much… https://t.co/bUPZo7Cv1h
They've been wrong about literally everything for 50+ years. Of course they algin with the dems so that makes perfect sense.Secolobo said:
Quote:
President Donald Trump's determined use of the Alien Enemies Act to enable fast-track deportations is likely to get approved by a three-judge appeals court panel, say media reports.
Under the headline, "Appeals court seems likely to back Trump's deportations under wartime law,' the Washington Post wrote:A win at the appeals court may help Trump's lawyers persuade the Supreme Court to OK his use of the 1798 law.Quote:
"Can you give me a Supreme Court case that says a federal court can countermand the chief executive on a decision in an armed conflict?" Judge Andrew S. Oldham challenged Lee Gelernt, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union. Oldham, who was nominated to the court by Trump during his first term, added later, "Are we allowed to conduct a federal trial to countermand the president when he says this is an invasion?"
Judge Leslie H. Southwick, who was appointed by President George W. Bush, acknowledged that Tren de Aragua may not fit the traditional definition of an invading foreign power. Still, he said, Trump has described the gang's alleged activities in the United States in ways that could be considered "a preface to an invasion."
The New York Post reported:Quote:
The conservative-leaning US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit heard arguments Monday for just under an hour from both Trump administration lawyers defending the president's invocation of the 18th-century act and American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) attorneys representing some of the alleged members of Tren de Aragua the administration is seeking to remove under the wartime law.
Read the full opinion and dissent in the case formerly known as A.A.R.P. here: https://t.co/jpV8Y2vMh6
— Eric W. (@EWess92) September 3, 2025
Also, I missed on my initial skim through that Judge Irma Ramirez concurred in part and dissented in part. More like a 1-1-1 opinion pic.twitter.com/V9c9K5ARaT
— Eric W. (@EWess92) September 3, 2025
amercer said:
Who are we at war with? The lawn care guys?
🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: Looks like other 5th Cir. judges are poised to way in on the interpretation of the Alien Enemies Act, as one just withheld the mandate, which means it doesn't go back to the district court yet. https://t.co/Iqi9wBj2Zy pic.twitter.com/tg86NWZrwB
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) September 3, 2025
While the 2 judges who granted the preliminary injunction--GWB appointee Leslie Southwick and Biden appointee Irma Ramirez--turned themselves inside out to insist hundreds of thousands of illegal Venezuelans including those tied to Tren de Aragua poring over the southern border…
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) September 3, 2025
You can feel Oldham's fury at the judiciary's double standard applied to President Trump.
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) September 4, 2025
"Two short years ago, the Supreme Court of the United States held the President has unreviewable enforcement discretion to arrest and not to arrest alien terrorists and aliens with…