I'd be cool with that.

I've always heard that the public school requirement was for kids who could not get the vaccine due to some other health issues. Those kids were protected by the "herd" immunity concept.

But if a child's immune system is so compromised that they cannot get the vaccine, aren't they perpetually in danger and thus ought to take extraordinary precautions all the time anyway?

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vaccines make weak people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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Their children…their choice…

If your child gets the measles vaxx, then it shouldn't bother you what others do, your kid will be fine…

Pretty simple…

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So "gender confirmation" surgery would be ok too?

Their children - their choice - right?

Have a second child to provide organ transplants for a sick first child?

Their children - their choice - right?

The line gets drawn somewhere of what parents can do to their children. Frankly, since measles isn't all that deadly, I'm ok with parents refusing the vaccine. But then they shouldn't be allowed to send their kids to public schools.

Their children - their choice - their consequences.

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Respectfully, body mutilation and organ harvesting are completely different from getting sick from the measles…

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doubledog said:

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vaccines make weak people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

The wets can cause a lot of problems and issues but causing or carrying diseases that have been way reduced due to common vaccines will probably not be one of them. I don't know about most of South America or Africa/Asia, but in Mex and Central America most vaccines aren't optional.

And by not optional I mean kids will be forced to be vaccinated whether the parents approve or not. There are governmental campaigns, many times carried out by the militaries, and in school, no parent permission slip required, forcing vaccinations.

Twice in my career I was forced to get some vaccinations or be detained and then deported by authorities. I was forced to get the yellow fever vaccine and another time the vaccine for chikayunga(sp) and some kind of hepatitis.

The entire industrial park, about 25K people, were forced to get it, or at least if you were at work the day the government showed up to give it, you got it. Haiti also has forced vaccinations and such and NGO'S, likely getting lots of $$ from USAID, doing mass vaccinations.

Most people I know in those countries also get the TB vaccination, but I understand that it isn't 100% effective and that is why you still see TB at times.

Anecdotally I I would believe that there are prolly higher percentages of unvaccinated folks in the US than in the poorer sheet hole countries.

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"At the expense of others lives…"

Is measles deadly? Come on…

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Yes.

It can also cause visual loss and blindness.

Do you want that for your kids?

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Probability is key here... Driving my kids to daycare and school is deadly.

1-1000 die is the mortality rate. I'm betting with further evaluation you will find that that 1 in 1000 was a kid that was very immunocompromised.

What's the blindness rate? Again, probably very similar situation with who was effected.

My kids do have the measles vaccine, but we are very selective about the vaccines that they receive. Measles is one that we sided with bc it was safe enough and it makes life simpler.. Unfortunately, simplicity with registering your kids for certain things is a thing.

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Oh ****, one of the anti-vaxx facebook granola moms are out loose.

Once the bat**** crazy is out, it's almost impossible to put it back.

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Probably a flat earther as well.

Similar argument techniques.

The author of "Moth in the Iron Ling"

"
Forrest Maready is a native of North Carolina and graduate of Wake Forest University, where he studied religion and music. He spent the early part of his career working in the film, television, and advertising industries as a sound engineer, composer, animator, and editor. He is the author of over a dozen books, many of them stemming from years of medical research. The Moth in the Iron Lung, his most popular, tells the true story of polioa tale much different than most were taught as children. More recently, he founded Protarianism, a Christian denomination focused on restoring both tribes and an understanding of the faith before it was taken over by pagans, polytheists, and philosophers. His book Red Pill Gospel: Christianity, Before it was Ruined by Christians, documents the takeover. Maready lives in North Carolina with his family and is an avid musician, tennis player, and competitive shoote"

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"At the expense of others lives…"

Is measles deadly? Come on…

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Yes.

It can also cause visual loss and blindness.

Do you want that for your kids?

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Probability is key here... Driving my kids to daycare and school is deadly.

1-1000 die is the mortality rate. I'm betting with further evaluation you will find that that 1 in 1000 was a kid that was very immunocompromised.

What's the blindness rate? Again, probably very similar situation with who was effected.

My kids do have the measles vaccine, but we are very selective about the vaccines that they receive. Measles is one that we sided with bc it was safe enough and it makes life simpler.. Unfortunately, simplicity with registering your kids for certain things is a thing.

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Usually those that face serious issues with measles have low vitamin A.

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

To me the biggest issue is vaccines being developed and manufactured within a year and sold to everyone as a cure.

I remember all the news stories saying if you had the vaccine you wouldn't get sick. Then slowly those claims starts to get walked back with sly and clever language.

The current measles vaccine has been out for 50 years. You can also still get sick if you have it. Not sure why people believe vaccines ever had 100% efficacy

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

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What is your education level?
High school?
College?
Do you have any degrees?

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

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What is your education level?
High school?
College?
Do you have any degrees?

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I have an Ag tag just in case you missed it.

People with ag tags can still have liberal arts degrees

Because of the autism bs and covid bs, a lot of folks on both sides have resorted to being idiots that take the extreme position in either direction.

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People with ag tags can still have liberal arts degrees

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It don't take a doctorate to know medical freedom is a must.

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To me the biggest issue is vaccines being developed and manufactured within a year and sold to everyone as a cure.

I remember all the news stories saying if you had the vaccine you wouldn't get sick. Then slowly those claims starts to get walked back with sly and clever language.

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USAID propaganda can only go so far.

To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

fc2112 said:

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To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

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Too late. Already had shingles and it was no big deal, other than a few days of discomfort. I'll pass on the vaccine.

What profound brilliance can you share with us about the smallpox vaccine and how it didn't really do anything either?

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To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

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Too late. Already had shingles and it was no big deal, other than a few days of discomfort. I'll pass on the vaccine.

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Shingles can become recurring.

The main reason I got shingles vax was due to the significant risk of long term nerve damage. Well that and I really don't want to expose a newborn infant to shingles/varicella at work.

Postherpetic neuralgia (PHN), a long-term nerve pain condition, occurs in approximately 10% to 18% of people who develop shingles[1][3]. PHN is defined as pain that persists for three months or longer after the shingles rash has healed[2][6].

The risk of developing PHN increases with age:

- People younger than 40 rarely experience PHN[3].
- Older adults, especially those over 60, are at higher risk[2][3].

The likelihood of developing PHN can vary depending on several factors:

- Severity of the initial shingles outbreak
- Promptness of antiviral treatment
- Patient's overall health and immune status

One month after the onset of shingles, 9% to 14.3% of patients develop PHN, while at three months, this percentage decreases to about 5%[7]. By one year, approximately 3% of shingles patients still experience PHN[7].

For most people, PHN improves over time, but in some cases, it can be permanent or last for years[8]. The pain from PHN can be severe enough to disrupt daily life and interfere with activities[4].

Citations:
[1] https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/data-research/index.html
[2] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/postherpetic-neuralgia/symptoms-causes/syc-20376588
[3] https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/signs-symptoms/index.html
[4] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12093-postherpetic-neuralgia
[5] https://www.healthline.com/health/infection/when-does-shingles-pain-peak
[6] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2664599/
[7] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493198/
[8] https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/understanding-postherpetic-neuralgia-treatment

Yeah, had an uncle that battled nerve issues for at least a year from it. Fit ex-Marine but shingles cut him down badly with debilitating nerve pain for a long time in early 70s. Really damaging to his quality of life for quite some time. I also don't mess around with crap that could damage my eyesight. So when I hit 50 last year, I got that vaccine.

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Teslag said:

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People with ag tags can still have liberal arts degrees

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It doesn't take a doctorate to know medical freedom is a must.

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fify

So,

Not an English Major

Deputy Travis Junior said:

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What profound brilliance can you share with us about the smallpox vaccine and how it didn't really do anything either?

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Well, first, you have to define smallpox. Was it leprosy, the plague, or smallpox that was diagnosed over the last few hundred years? Frequently the three were loosely defined so distinguishes between the three is impossible in previous centuries. As definitions grew stricter, the cases of smallpox dropped. In the twentieth century, symptoms were defined even more acutely, meaning diseases formerly diagnosed as smallpox were more labeled as chicken pox, monkey pox, scarlet fever, etc.

In San Antonio, Dr. Campbell conducted experiments in a 'pest house', eliminating bedbugs and supplementing vitamin C. He successfully treated smallpox patients and even intentionally exposed himself to smallpox and never caught an infection.

In prior centuries, workplaces improved, ventilation and sanitation improved, public hygiene increased, lowering infectious disease rates and deaths. Nutrition improved, increase people's immune systems. By the 80s, smallpox had been defined out of existence, negating the need for the smallpox vaccine and creating the need for new ones. It was gone from England in the early 1900s. The vaccine was never successful.

you sure love quacks and fake science

https://www.popsci.com/charles-campbell-smallpox-and-bed-bug/

Still, even if a bed bug might be capable of spreading smallpox to animals or even to humans, Campbell's claim that people with smallpox weren't contagious isn't true. In 1988, the virologist Frank Fenner, an expert on the genus of viruses called orthopoxviruses, which includes smallpox and similar pathogens that strike a range of animals, co-published a definitive text "Smallpox and its Eradication" for the World Health Organization. The work spanned 31 chapters and discussed data-backed research on how smallpox spreads, including tissue and fluid samples from actual smallpox patients and animal models infected with analogous viruses. The book also traced, among other things, epidemiological and historical smallpox accounts. These studies compellingly laid out the evidence that smallpox passes directly from infected people, either through the respiratory tract or contact with bodily fluids. (There are, of course, many other papers on smallpox, how it spreads, how the smallpox vaccine works, and so on.)

Campbell also wasn't right about the smallpox vaccine. By 1977, health officials had wiped out the last of the virus in the wildthat is, naturally-occurring smallpox in peoplethrough a massive global vaccination effort, a world's first.

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IIIHorn said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

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What is your education level?
High school?
College?
Do you have any degrees?

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I have an Ag tag just in case you missed it.

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Answer the question.

ChillyAg19 said:

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To me the biggest issue is vaccines being developed and manufactured within a year and sold to everyone as a cure.

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trump and operation warp speed

KidDoc said:

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The main reason I got shingles vax was due to the significant risk of long term nerve damage. Well that and I really don't want to expose a newborn infant to shingles/varicella at work.

Postherpetic neuralgia (PHN), a long-term nerve pain condition, occurs in approximately 10% to 18% of people who develop shingles[1][3]. PHN is defined as pain that persists for three months or longer after the shingles rash has healed[2][6].

The risk of developing PHN increases with age:

- People younger than 40 rarely experience PHN[3].
- Older adults, especially those over 60, are at higher risk[2][3].

The likelihood of developing PHN can vary depending on several factors:

- Severity of the initial shingles outbreak
- Promptness of antiviral treatment
- Patient's overall health and immune status

One month after the onset of shingles, 9% to 14.3% of patients develop PHN, while at three months, this percentage decreases to about 5%[7]. By one year, approximately 3% of shingles patients still experience PHN[7].

For most people, PHN improves over time, but in some cases, it can be permanent or last for years[8]. The pain from PHN can be severe enough to disrupt daily life and interfere with activities[4].

Citations:
[1] https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/data-research/index.html
[2] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/postherpetic-neuralgia/symptoms-causes/syc-20376588
[3] https://www.cdc.gov/shingles/signs-symptoms/index.html
[4] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/12093-postherpetic-neuralgia
[5] https://www.healthline.com/health/infection/when-does-shingles-pain-peak
[6] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2664599/
[7] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493198/
[8] https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/shingles/understanding-postherpetic-neuralgia-treatment

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I don't like pain.
I had Chicken Pox when I was about 5, but was not in school, kindergarten was not available where we lived at the time.

I did take the Shingles shot [Shingrix I believe] after reading several 1st hand accounts of the pain and nerve damage. I'm over 50 as well, & was when I got the shot.

Never took the Covid shot, and have not had a flu vaccine in over 35+ years. Had to get it when I was in the US Navy. Had the flu multiple times as a kid, I still remember the hallucinations, fever and chills, etc. It was not fun, but I made it through.

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you sure love quacks and fake science

https://www.popsci.com/charles-campbell-smallpox-and-bed-bug/

Still, even if a bed bug might be capable of spreading smallpox to animals or even to humans, Campbell's claim that people with smallpox weren't contagious isn't true. In 1988, the virologist Frank Fenner, an expert on the genus of viruses called orthopoxviruses, which includes smallpox and similar pathogens that strike a range of animals, co-published a definitive text "Smallpox and its Eradication" for the World Health Organization. The work spanned 31 chapters and discussed data-backed research on how smallpox spreads, including tissue and fluid samples from actual smallpox patients and animal models infected with analogous viruses. The book also traced, among other things, epidemiological and historical smallpox accounts. These studies compellingly laid out the evidence that smallpox passes directly from infected people, either through the respiratory tract or contact with bodily fluids. (There are, of course, many other papers on smallpox, how it spreads, how the smallpox vaccine works, and so on.)

Campbell also wasn't right about the smallpox vaccine. By 1977, health officials had wiped out the last of the virus in the wildthat is, naturally-occurring smallpox in peoplethrough a massive global vaccination effort, a world's first.

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I would argue that he's the quack, but if you believe in any magic vaccine, please take it, just don't force it on the world.

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eric76 said:

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

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What is your education level?
High school?
College?
Do you have any degrees?

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I have an Ag tag just in case you missed it.

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Answer the question.

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I did. Can you give me a reason that government has the right to take our freedom?

SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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eric76 said:

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doubledog said:

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damiond said:

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vaccines make weak people

and make rich people

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My uncle had polio, we did not. I guess we are both weak.

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It's possible you had polio as it was originally defined and didn't know it. Just like COVID, much of it was defined away. For example, in order to have a polio diagnosis originally you needed to have symptoms for about 3 days. It was later changed to 30 days and poof, polio cases plummeted!

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30 days and the need for iron lung machines dropped?

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You should read Moth in the Iron Lung. Honestly, after the COVID hoax, I'm surprised more people haven't looked into the lies and deception over the last 100 years. COVID played out very similarly, just over a longer time period.

If I hadn't been familiar with it, I might have fallen for the propaganda myself. The way polio was redefined was very similar to the '2 weeks' incubation time that kept changing. Sadly, big pharma propaganda still leads people to believe in vaccines, but that's quickly changing, so health overall will hopefully improve soon.

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I should waste my time reading fairy tales?

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Well, I doubt you've ever spent time reading a vaccine insert or white paper, so who cares?

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Actually, I have.

I also read the package inserts (with a magnifying glass, if necessary) for just about ever medicine I take.

Years ago, I received something like two or three prescriptions for some illness. One result was a profound reduction in my ability to hear. I ended up going to the bookstore to buy a Physicians Desk Reference and read up on the medications I was taking. The one I thought it was turned out to be incorrect. But it turns out that the high dosage of an antibiotic I was taking can have that effect. Fortunately, when I finished the treatment, my hearing came back after a few days.

If the pharmacy doesn't want to give me the package insert, I tell them to give me back the prescription and I'll go elsewhere to fill it. At one pharmacy a few years ago, I had a conversation very close to this:

Me: "I would like the package insert, too, please."
Pharmacist: "But what if someone else asks for it? We won't have it to give to them."
Me: "Has anyone else ever asked for it?"
Pharmacist", "Well, no."

That cracked me up. and I got the package insert.

I'm a big fan of package inserts.

fc2112 said:

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To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

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I've asked for the shingles vaccine, but the local doctor never seems to have it available.

Teslag said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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fc2112 said:

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To you anti vaxxers

Do not get the shingles vaccine. Just get shingles some day and suffer. Much safer and more effective than the vaccine.

It won't kill you - you'll just wish you were dead.

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Too late. Already had shingles and it was no big deal, other than a few days of discomfort. I'll pass on the vaccine.

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Shingles can become recurring.

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Yes. My younger brother has had it at least twice.