You forgot to mention free

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Great. Now we get to fire 50% give them 2 weeks

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Your going to fire 50% of the VA nurses in the ICU and 50% of the VA doctors with hip surgeries scheduled?

Good luck with that.

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Why do people always assume a stated percentage means that percentage distributed evenly?

A small amount of critical thinking would show that it's possible to trim more from an inferior segment and trim less if any from superior segments.

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The largest Federal workforce, by a wide margin, is the VA. After that it's the military. Everything else pales in comparison.

Where does the 50% come from then?

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Here are approximate numbers:

Defense
738,000

Veterans Affairs
373,000

Homeland Security
192,000

Treasury
92,000

Justice
117,000

Agriculture
97,000

Interior
71,000

Health and Human Services
87,000

Transportation
55,000

Commerce
46,000

Labor
16,000

Energy
15,000

State
13,000

Social Security Administration
64,000

National Aeronautics and Space Administration
17,000

Environmental Protection Agency
16,000

Not everyone under the Defense Department and the VA are needed. Also, there is plenty of bloat to cut 50% of the workforce comprised from the totality.

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You forgot to mention free

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Turns out you were wrong. It wasn't free. Sad

The only man for the job is Ron Swanson

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Same. Hopefully this judge issues some clarity on it. If so I'm taking it and then going on a 5 months taxpayer vacation and will spend the last 3 months double dipping with a private sector gig.

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Wise move, better to take it than get laid off or fired and get nothing.

Plus you can get any job you want next week. Amirite?

Not any. I know of at least 3 due to connections alone. 1 routinely takes me to lunch once every couple of months to return.

If I take it I'm not immediately going back to work. 4 or 5 months of doing nothing but golf and fishing during spring and summer sounds amazing.

If things go south for him, and he becomes a homeless Veteran then I will offer my services

Consider me your security blanket

You at North Texas VA? I had a really great counselor there from the trauma team. Actually she may have been out of Dallas VA, they were all video so hard to tell. Lots of good people there.

This is going to be a helluva government stimulus. Most will blow thru this severance in a couple of months, and be back to work before summer starts.

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This is going to be a helluva government stimulus. Most will blow thru this severance in a couple of months, and be back to work before summer starts.

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I hear several restaurants are still hiring servers…

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Great. Now we get to fire 50% give them 2 weeks

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Your going to fire 50% of the VA nurses in the ICU and 50% of the VA doctors with hip surgeries scheduled?

Good luck with that.

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Why do people always assume a stated percentage means that percentage distributed evenly?

A small amount of critical thinking would show that it's possible to trim more from an inferior segment and trim less if any from superior segments.

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The largest Federal workforce, by a wide margin, is the VA. After that it's the military. Everything else pales in comparison.

Where does the 50% come from then?

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The ones people don't "like" or have the foggiest idea what they do……duh! It's F16, and a random number like 50% sounds "edgy" and popular.

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Yup

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This is going to be a helluva government stimulus. Most will blow thru this severance in a couple of months, and be back to work before summer starts.

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I hear several restaurants are still hiring servers…

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My friend who's runs a Texas Roadhouse says it's hard to hire the waitresses back because they were making too much off of onlyfans

Well, strawberries don't pick themselves.

Gonna need a lot of farm hands after the deportations.

Gen Z becoming farm hands might be the rehabilitation they need

Judge just gave the yahoos little more time to realize reality and take the buyout option instead of getting fired and getting NOTHING.

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Judge just gave the yahoos little more time to realize reality and take the buyout option instead of getting fired and getting NOTHING.

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Thats actually the response from Trump people yesterday, they thanked the judge for extending the offer.

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Judge just gave the yahoos little more time to realize reality and take the buyout option instead of getting fired and getting NOTHING.

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But most of them won't get fired and they know it.

Did you know that Elon offered the same thing to Twitter employees when he took over and called it Fork in the Road as well?

"The main claim related to the Twitter fiasco was that employees had been promised for many months prior to Musk's acquisition of the company that if they lost their jobs after he acquired the company, they would get this very generous severance package," she explains. "And then he came in and terminated 80% of the workforce and didn't pay that severance package."

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/nx-s1-5286477/fork-in-the-road-twitter-federal-workers

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Well, strawberries don't pick themselves.

Gonna need a lot of farm hands after the deportations.

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That's what they said about cotton...

I just got an email from the VA saying my position is exempt from participating in the Deferred Resignation Program.

Since I can't resign, hopefully this means I won't get fired either! I love my job!

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Reagan fired a large amount of striking ATC.

Airplanes continued to fly.

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He did hire new ATCs, so not really equivalent.

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I believe military air traffic controllers were also brought in to bridge the gap.

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Fed judge just postponed deadline…

If I'm Trump, I pull back the offer and just start laying folks off…

For all we know, that was his plan all along…

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It would provide President Trump the ability to blame the Federal Judge. Wondering if the Federal Judge is leaning to the left on their politics?

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to keeping that disability hand out even though you work full time

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

And again, if your time isn't worth much then good on you for giving away for free.

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The fact that many others do what you're doing isn't justification.

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to keeping that disability hand out even though you work full time

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

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Getting 100% disability because you worked in payroll in the Army in Germany is bull

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Lol wut? I've never worked in payroll and only spent one 3 week AT in Germany.

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It was an example of a husband and wife I know. Its fraud. Lots of it at the VA

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How is it fraud? The VA and federal law literally tells you it's legal to work full time and draw VA disability. The only time you can't is if you claim 100% based on not being able to work.

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The fraud is getting the 100%, they have no injuries or anything else. Doctors play a part in the fraud. The vultures are around Belton/Temple and Fort Hood like you wouldnt believe. ITS FRAUD

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fraud /frd/

noun
[ol]

A deception practiced in order to induce another to give up possession of property or surrender a right.

A piece of trickery; a trick.

One that defrauds; a cheat.

[/ol]The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition


The definition of fraud includes more than the legal definition. The definition of fraud is tied to the definition of ethics.

Welcome to my hood!

Speaking of vultures...

I was providing transportation for one of my Veterans to get goods at the food pantry in Killeen and there was a guy wearing all his jewelry, nice clothes and fancy shoes, loaded up his Cadillac escalade with free food. Of course he parked in the handicapped space, started blaring loud music and left. Dude has the biggest **** eating grin on his face.

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to keeping that disability hand out even though you work full time

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

And again, if your time isn't worth much then good on you for giving away for free.

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The fact that many others do what you're doing isn't justification.

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The justification is that it's allowed and legal by the VA. Scheduled VA disability is not dependent on inability to work.

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Welcome to my hood!

Speaking of vultures...

I was providing transportation for one of my Veterans to get goods at the food pantry in Killeen and there was a guy wearing all his jewelry, nice clothes and fancy shoes, loaded up his Cadillac escalade with free food. Of course he parked in the handicapped space, started blaring loud music and left. Dude has the biggest **** eating grin on his face.

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Seems that enough veterans may be abusing the system that truly disabled veterans(re: missing limbs, traumatic head injuries, psychological problems, etc.) are not receiving adequate treatment. There are charitable organizations helping like the Wounded Warriors, DAV programs trying to fill the gaps(re: not arguing here that these organizations are completely ethical or not).

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Welcome to my hood!

Speaking of vultures...

I was providing transportation for one of my Veterans to get goods at the food pantry in Killeen and there was a guy wearing all his jewelry, nice clothes and fancy shoes, loaded up his Cadillac escalade with free food. Of course he parked in the handicapped space, started blaring loud music and left. Dude has the biggest **** eating grin on his face.

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Seems that enough veterans may be abusing the system that truly disabled veterans(re: missing limbs, traumatic head injuries, psychological problems, etc.) are not receiving adequate treatment. There are charitable organizations helping like the Wounded Warriors, DAV programs trying to fill the gaps(re: not arguing here that these organizations are completely ethical or not).

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Where did he say Escalade guy was a veteran?

I'm also a volunteer with DAV and they are one of the biggest proponents of veterans filing disability claims. We (DAV) can file on their behalf as a VSO and guide them through the claims process, even getting them legal assistance if the VA denies true disabilities.

I've got a lot of good soldiers benefits, many at 100% as well.

There are Veterans who abuse the system for compensation, yes. It's sad.

It's always the Veterans who deserve compensation that don't get it. One of my squad leaders in the Army refused to get the shrapnel taken out of his leg because he said it reminds him of his buddies. After a roadside bomb went off, he had to pick up pieces of their bodies off the ground. I still don't think he went in to file for disability to this day.

I have a Veteran on my caseload that is at 0% service connection disability and he went to Vietnam as an infantryman an was awarded the Combat Infantryman Badge. I would say the psychological impact of that led to his current state.

It is sad that people abuse the system, but I like to think that I am making a difference in the lives of those who need it.

Escalade guy was definitely not a Veteran

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There are Veterans who abuse the system for compensation, yes. It's sad.

It's always the Veterans who deserve compensation that don't get it. One of my squad leaders in the Army refused to get the shrapnel taken out of his leg because he said it reminds him of his buddies. After a roadside bomb went off, he had to pick up pieces of their bodies off the ground. I still don't think he went in to file for disability to this day.

I have a Veteran on my caseload that is at 0% service connection disability and he went to Vietnam as an infantryman an was awarded the Combat Infantryman Badge. I would say the psychological impact of that led to his current state.

It is sad that people abuse the system, but I like to think that I am making a difference in the lives of those who need it.

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Thank you for your response. Thank you for your service.

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Welcome to my hood!

Speaking of vultures...

I was providing transportation for one of my Veterans to get goods at the food pantry in Killeen and there was a guy wearing all his jewelry, nice clothes and fancy shoes, loaded up his Cadillac escalade with free food. Of course he parked in the handicapped space, started blaring loud music and left. Dude has the biggest **** eating grin on his face.

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Seems that enough veterans may be abusing the system that truly disabled veterans(re: missing limbs, traumatic head injuries, psychological problems, etc.) are not receiving adequate treatment. There are charitable organizations helping like the Wounded Warriors, DAV programs trying to fill the gaps(re: not arguing here that these organizations are completely ethical or not).

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Where did he say Escalade guy was a veteran?

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My post above had absolutely nothing to do with the Escalade guy. Try rereading my post and you may begin to understand.

The problem is that many veterans, like the other poster described, simply wait too long to file out of some sense of pride or other reason. Or quite frankly people like you shame them or make them feel like they don't deserve it if they can work. So they wait. And when they wait till the finally can't work the VA by law has a much more difficult time proving the nexus of injuries were service related. Time is the biggest threat to a successful VA claim. That's why they meet with exiting veterans and basically beg them to file anything and everything they can as soon as they can. Because the nexus of injury within a year of ETS is almost always deemed service related. Ya this does open it up for some abuse, but it also keeps a lot of veterans from being denied later in life when they really need it.

I always tell those I help, don't file for what you need today, file today for what you need 30 years from now.