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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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Great. Now we get to fire 50% give them 2 weeks

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Your going to fire 50% of the VA nurses in the ICU and 50% of the VA doctors with hip surgeries scheduled?

Good luck with that.

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You know as well as I do that this isn't an even percentage across every single specific group of government employees.

Nice try though. And by that I mean, good god...

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See my answer above.

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If 80% of 20+ departments are useless, and 100% of others are useless, they can be cut. At the same time, some departments require no cuts. Logic isn't as difficult as some people want it to be.

It really isn't that hard unless you're wanting to be.

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I got no problem with that. Just wondering where 50% need to be fired come from and how that can be done.

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As stated in my edit, you can trim a significant number of people even within important departments. It would not be surprising to still see a huge percentage of your example who will not be missed, and who would certainly not impact the care and functionality where it actually matters.

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Wait, are you're actually saying a huge number of ICU nurses and surgeons won't be missed? I guess I will tell my neighbor he should just live with his hip pain cause they are going to cancel his surgery next week.

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Cool.

That's an awesome way to construct a strawman.

KvW: People that won't impact care can be let go


slaut: So you're saying the people that will impact care will be let go?

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The problem is that many veterans, like the other poster described, simply wait too long to file out of some sense of pride or other reason. Or quite frankly people like you shame them or make them feel like they don't deserve it if they can work. So they wait. And when they wait till the finally can't work the VA by law has a much more difficult time proving the nexus of injuries were service related. Time is the biggest threat to a successful VA claim. That's why they meet with exiting veterans and basically beg them to file anything and everything they can as soon as they can. Because the nexus of injury within a year of ETS is almost always deemed service related. Ya this does open it up for some abuse, but it also keeps a lot of veterans from being denied later in life when they really need it.

I always tell those I help, don't file for what you need today, file today for what you need 30 years from now.

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People like me honor our military that signed up to protect us. You know nothing about me.
My father was a career officer in the military and fought in WWII and Korea.
You statement is full of bull*****
It is you that defrauded the military knowingly lied about your intentions to attend college so you could buy a damn truck. The law may be in your favor but morality and ethics are not.

That money could have been used and is desperately needed to aid combat veterans that are missing limbs, have severe mental war related issues, severe head injures, homelessness, suicidal & more.
So keep your bull**** slur on my character & my beliefs.
Look inward toward your actions & the morality & ethics involved.

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That money could have been used and is desperately needed to aid combat veterans that are missing limbs, have severe mental war related issues, severe head injures, homelessness, suicidal & more.

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There is plenty to funding available for these veterans to file and to be compensated for their injuries. They simply either don't file, don't file timely, or lack documentation. That's all that's holding them back from compensation.

I've helped many of these veterans navigate the process and get paid by the VA. How many have you helped?

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That money could have been used and is desperately needed to aid combat veterans that are missing limbs, have severe mental war related issues, severe head injures, homelessness, suicidal & more.

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There is plenty to funding available for these veterans to file and to be compensated for their injuries. They simply either don't file, don't file timely, or lack documentation. That's all that's holding them back from compensation.

I've helped many of these veterans navigate the process and get paid by the VA. How many have you helped?

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How much fraud have you committed along the way?

None. Veterans are never told to lie or claim issues they don't have. That's the only way they can commit fraud. They claim, they see VA docs or contractors, and then are awarded based on what's diagnosed and tied to a nexus of service connection. If they deny we often appeal or refile has a supplemental claim to one they did approve. For example, let's say they deny migraines but approve ptsd at 50%. We can then go back and file migraines supplemental and caused by the PTSD and it can be approved, often at around 30%.

We have 1.2 million members in the DAV and we are damn good at what we do and who we help.

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None. Veterans are never told to lie or claim issues they don't have. That's the only way they can commit fraud. They claim, they see VA docs or contractors, and then are awarded based on what's diagnosed and tied to a nexus of service connection. If they deny we often appeal or refile has a supplemental claim to one they did approve. For example, let's say they deny migraines but approve ptsd at 50%. We can then go back and file migraines supplemental and caused by the PTSD and it can be approved, often at around 30%.

We have 1.2 million members in the DAV and we are damn good at what we do and who we help.

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The VA is corrupt with abject fraud and waste at the expense of the veterans who are suffering the most. Admitting you game the system is admitting you gain the system. Gird your loins cause Elons DOGE ai is smush you like a bug and tump your gravy train over.

I'll admit, the ones who claim they can't work at all and want 100% seems ripe for abuse but I've never helped with one of those. They usually require a lawyer.

And there's zero DOGE can do. Disabilties and their rating schemes are published in the CFR. It's transparent by design to make it easy for the veteran to claim and understand.

Yeah, i work with several guys making 150k plus a year and claim disability and get 2k to 3k a month in disability checks. In fact, every service worker Minus 1 guy collects disability of some sort. They view it as entitled to it. Maybe they are, as long as those homeless, mentally disturbed veterans that live under the bridge get help.

I dont know the money situation other than I hope those men and women that really need it, get all the help they need. Now if we are short money, i think we should crack down on those veterans just gaming the system because they feel entitled.

I just want to make sure those that really need it are getting the help.

They do. With the passage of the PACT act I believe last year the VA was authorized more funding than was given out. The money is there but not all who are entitled are claiming it.

It's also very common for veterans on VA disability to be working for federal service or as contractors. That's because they get hiring preference, often have security clearances, and have relevant experience already in those fields.

Typically it's do about 20 to 30 years in the military, get your pension, have around 70 to 100 percent disability, then work in federal service for a second pension if you can squeeze it in before it's time to hang it up.

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Yeah, i work with several guys making 150k plus a year and claim disability and get 2k to 3k a month in disability checks. In fact, every service worker Minus 1 guy collects disability of some sort. They view it as entitled to it. Maybe they are, as long as those homeless, mentally disturbed veterans that live under the bridge get help.

I dont know the money situation other than I hope those men and women that really need it, get all the help they need. Now if we are short money, i think we should crack down on those veterans just gaming the system because they feel entitled.

I just want to make sure those that really need it are getting the help.

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If it makes you feel any better. I work directly with those homeless and mentally disturbed Veterans every day.

I carry Narcan on me where ever I go just in case someone needs it.

I remember a Veteran saying to me once "Sir, I feel like I am a part of society again" after we got him housed for the first time in years.

But there is a lot of work to be done. We send way too much money overseas and worrying about other country's people when there are Veterans struggling in their own country.