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Teslag said:

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doubledog said:

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Reagan fired a large amount of striking ATC.

Airplanes continued to fly.

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He did hire new ATCs, so not really equivalent.

Bill Clinton actually did lay off fed employees .

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doubledog said:

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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In many cases this would improve the average American's life.

Those who took the deal were either already planning on retiring and got the early bonus money or they will be rehired as consultants by private companies doing the exact same job.

This is such a waste of money / scam to privatize so that buddies can get more government contracts.

Teslag is just wanting to scheme a way to get a bonus paid out to him for one specific thing and then use the money for something completely different....like another tesla. He's been a part of the govt waste.

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Most, myself included, were instructed not to take it due to uncertainty over whether the deal would be honored.

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That sounds like the administrative state is daring Trump to fire them.

Edit: InfantryAgs post helped - (about uncertainty)
However, bureaucrats have been so entrenched, they think they are untouchable and unfireable. Happens in industry all the time.

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There are some extremely upset fed employees. I was at a conference yesterday and thought some were going to have an aneurysm. It was very entertaining.

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Good. Those are the ones who need to be gone. We do not work for them.

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Those who took the deal were either already planning on retiring and got the early bonus money or they will be rehired as consultants by private companies doing the exact same job.

This is such a waste of money / scam to privatize so that buddies can get more government contracts.

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You know that for a fact?
How would you know? When was the last time something like this happened?

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Those who took the deal were either already planning on retiring and got the early bonus money or they will be rehired as consultants by private companies doing the exact same job.

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They won't if we no longer pay other companies to launder mon...do those jobs.

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As Teslag said, there's lots of ambiguity as to how this is supposed to work. Many have held off because of that.

My agency is having daily meetings to clarify how it's supposed to work. I think HR just sent out the "final" clarification this morning. That probably means more resignations today.

There may be some forthcoming lawsuits from the unions etc.or it may all be bluster.

There are some extremely upset fed employees. I was at a conference yesterday and thought some were going to have an aneurysm. It was very entertaining.

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So now the administrative state knows what the rest of America was going through under Biden's great economy.

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doubledog said:

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Yeah, we'd probably have aircraft running into each other and kill 100 million chickens for bird flu.

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And how often do those accidents happen? You want it amplified?

BREAKING: Judge temporarily blocks Trump plan offering incentives for federal workers to resign and extends deadline to Monday - AP

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 6, 2025

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Teslag said:

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Yeah, we'd probably have aircraft running into each other and kill 100 million chickens for bird flu.

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And how often do those accidents happen? You want it amplified?

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Maybe the answer is to hand off that responsibility to a responsible organization instead of just giving them more money?

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Most, myself included, were instructed not to take it due to uncertainty over whether the deal would be honored.

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No shame is sorta laughable when 'honor' is entered into this equation of solving the problem of the dishonourable.

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Those who took the deal were either already planning on retiring and got the early bonus money or they will be rehired as consultants by private companies doing the exact same job.

This is such a waste of money / scam to privatize so that buddies can get more government contracts.

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So many of you are coming at this with a corporate, sane, profit-centered point of view. Fed gov does not resemble that at all.

My wife had an internship 20 years ago in DC, she was told to stay away from some guy because he was going to retire in like 3 years ( I think it was more). He was not given any new tasks, did not have a computer, and set up a crafting area in his office.

Can you imagine the scale of this from work from home?? Immense, I would have to guess.

I am totally for this offer - if you can prove you did not have another job while a full time employee of fed govt, and you are ready to retire or move on, then have a nice time off.

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Reagan fired a large amount of striking ATC.

Airplanes continued to fly.

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Just as efficiently? The skies are much more crowded in 2025 than they were in 1980. And it still took years for the backlog to be hired and replaced.

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Teslag said:

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Most, myself included, were instructed not to take it due to uncertainty over whether the deal would be honored.

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No shame is sorta laughable when 'honor' is entered into this equation of solving the problem of the dishonourable.

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You may not value your time and give it away for free. I do and don't.

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Yeah, we'd probably have aircraft running into each other and kill 100 million chickens for bird flu.

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And how often do those accidents happen? You want it amplified?

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60% of staff lost would put us at roughly 1930 levels. Probably not what we want for certain departments. But then, there are certain departments that are completely worthless and need to be gutted 100% ( Dept. of Education, ATF, USAID etc.)

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Reagan fired a large amount of striking ATC.

Airplanes continued to fly.

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Just as efficiently? The skies are much more crowded in 2025 than they were in 1980. And it still took years for the backlog to be hired and replaced.

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We also have more controllers than back then.....so yes, it would be the same.

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2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.

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I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

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This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

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Reagan fired a large amount of striking ATC.

Airplanes continued to fly.

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Just as efficiently? The skies are much more crowded in 2025 than they were in 1980. And it still took years for the backlog to be hired and replaced.

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We also have more controllers than back then.....so yes, it would be the same.

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Show your math.

Re: the low percentage taking the offer- Point that was made on one of the morning shows is that many of the federal workers don't want a private industry job. They want the pension and low standards required of a government position.

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Re: the low percentage taking the offer- Point that was made on one of the morning shows is that many of the federal workers don't want a private industry job. They want the pension and low standards required of a government position.

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Low standards, better pay and benefits, and impossibility of being fired. That is government employment in the 2020s.

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Teslag is just wanting to scheme a way to get a bonus paid out to him for one specific thing and then use the money for something completely different....like another tesla. He's been a part of the govt waste.

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That sounds like USAID!

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Most, myself included, were instructed not to take it due to uncertainty over whether the deal would be honored.

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No shame is sorta laughable when 'honor' is entered into this equation of solving the problem of the dishonourable.

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You may not value your time and give it away for free. I do and don't.

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We all know how selfish you are. Between not willing to work any harder to earn your tax payer salary, to keeping that disability hand out even though you work full time, to backing out pre-planned PTO and bragging about your free government vacation days during a shutdown, to trying to scam your kids into getting Jewish scholarships.

Everyone here knows exactly who you are. You probably fit in great at your government cheese job.

Forgot gleefully ratting out your co-workers for refusing to get the jab.

The pay depends on agency. I'd make way more in the private sector. The top of the GS scale is about $195k. For engineers and the like with over 20 years experience and highly qualified that's lower than a lot of private sector jobs, especially when running entire offices or departments.

Watching federal workers go through their first downsizing is hilarious. What would they do without me! I'm too important! They'll never be able to replace me! So great to see.

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

And again, if your time isn't worth much then good on you for giving away for free.

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

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Getting 100% disability because you worked in payroll in the Army in Germany is bull

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You realize just about every single person on VA disability also works full time right?

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100% government waste. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when DOGE gets around to cleaning up this tax paying theft gravy train.

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Re: the low percentage taking the offer- Point that was made on one of the morning shows is that many of the federal workers don't want a private industry job. They want the pension and low standards required of a government position.

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Pension is a big issue, particularly for relatively long served employees (10+ years) who have been required to pay in yo the pension program. Sure they can withdraw their contributions but, unless I'm mistaken, they don't receive any gains or match. So, say you've been paying in for 15 years, you're not going to want your retirement fund to take a giant kick in the nuts if you can avoid it.

That's not to say that this doesn't need to happen, but I can see why a lot of people aren't going to just walk away voluntarily for a few extra months pay. If you're halfway to retirement then you're looking at setting yourself back significantly.