Musk 'Buyout' Taken by 40,000 (2%) Federal Workers as Deadline Nears

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RogerFurlong said:

We need Mr Beast to come up with some games for elimination. I'd love to see some bureaucrats get dropped down some trapped doors into the real world.
Mr Beast needs to be eliminated from pop culture. He's nearly as evil as the rest of the democrats.
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Voluntary severances are overwhelmingly taken by employees with strong opportunity elsewhere, marketable skills, etc. And to a lesser extent RIP's.

The dead weight NEVER takes the severance, they have nowhere to go and generally hope to either hang on or pursue legal claims if termed.
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The first step is voluntary. After that they pick to make up the difference of what they need to shed.
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Sweep4-2 said:

Voluntary severances are overwhelmingly taken by employees with strong opportunity elsewhere, marketable skills, etc. And to a lesser extent RIP's.

The dead weight NEVER takes the severance, they have nowhere to go and generally hope to either hang on or pursue legal claims if termed.


This is so true. I had a client put in for the severance today and she was planning to leave for months to start her own business. She would have left for no cost but now she's getting a big payout.
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LMCane said:

that number is NOT counting the 1000 employees fired at EPA by Zeldin

or the fact that USAID has been gutted with likely thousands laid off

or that every new Trump Secretary has been laying off employees


Stop!

I can only get so erect!!
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CNN was freaking out about this last night and even had the likes of bernie coming on and saying it's unconstitutional without legislative approval. Weird how most of these fed employees got hired without that same legislative approval. They also had the super lib Maryland governor on warning people not to take it because the buyouts might end up not being real. Such a ****ing joke.
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txyaloo said:

RogerFurlong said:

We need Mr Beast to come up with some games for elimination. I'd love to see some bureaucrats get dropped down some trapped doors into the real world.
Mr Beast needs to be eliminated from pop culture. He's nearly as evil as the rest of the democrats.
A lot more entertaining though.
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halfastros81 said:

7 mos pay seems like a really good deal. I'd have expected a lot more to take it than even 5%. What do they get if laid off?


No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.
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zgolfz85 said:

CNN was freaking out about this last night and even had the likes of bernie coming on and saying it's unconstitutional without legislative approval. Weird how most of these fed employees got hired without that same legislative approval. They also had the super lib Maryland governor on warning people not to take it because the buyouts might end up not being real. Such a ****ing joke.

No way Trump is going to bait-n-switch 40K government employees. The severance is real or he wouldn't offer it. Once again liberals and unions lie to those they say they are protecting because of politics. The ones that get fired with no severance should sue the unions.
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Sweep4-2 said:

Voluntary severances are overwhelmingly taken by employees with strong opportunity elsewhere, marketable skills, etc. And to a lesser extent RIP's.

The dead weight NEVER takes the severance, they have nowhere to go and generally hope to either hang on or pursue legal claims if termed.
Thanks for the response. I've only ever worked in a small practice environment except for a very brief stint in a large corporation which I did not like.

The only difference I may see here is that if you KNOW your department is highly likely to get axed, why wouldn't you leave before that happened even if you are one of the dead weight? I mean Trump's team isn't exactly hiding what they intend to do.
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taxpreparer said:

Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.


That's fine, but I'm not working any extra to pick up the increased workload from being understaffed. And it will just result in longer approvals and regulatory timelines for private and public developers in our purview.
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Sweep4-2 said:

Voluntary severances are overwhelmingly taken by employees with strong opportunity elsewhere, marketable skills, etc. And to a lesser extent RIP's.

The dead weight NEVER takes the severance, they have nowhere to go and generally hope to either hang on or pursue legal claims if termed.
It amazes me how this is lost on so many people.
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Teslag said:

taxpreparer said:

Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.


That's fine, but I'm not working any extra to pick up the increased workload from being understaffed. And it will just result in longer approvals and regulatory timelines for private and public developers in our purview.


I agree with about 60 percent of your overall posts, but you might find it hard to believe the world does not revolve around you. There are many govt departments besides the one you work in.
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Teslag said:

taxpreparer said:

Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.


That's fine, but I'm not working any extra to pick up the increased workload from being understaffed. And it will just result in longer approvals and regulatory timelines for private and public developers in our purview.


This is government worker mentality in a nutshell. Every single private employee on this board has been tasked with picking up an increased workload because of being understaffed. It's called work. We in private industry tend to solve the problems through innovation and efficiency gains.

But the fact that this is your mindset is wholly unsurprising, and in line with everything else you've posted on this board. It's just another one of your grifts.
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Lots of threads on reddit are calling for them to #RESIST by not taking the buyout and forcing them to lay them off so they can collect unemployment. If they resign, they don't get unemployment.
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Mr. Fingerbottom said:

Glad many didn't bite


Start ****canning the bloat w no severance

Exactly.


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.
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You can barely keep up but post here all day?
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TexasAggie_02 said:

Lots of threads on reddit are calling for them to #RESIST by not taking the buyout and forcing them to lay them off so they can collect unemployment. If they resign, they don't get unemployment.

Unemployment rate is not the same as regular rate and they may not even qualify for unemployment.

They will be losing money by #RESIST.


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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Teslag said:

I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.


Yeah. You'd do great in the private sector.
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Teslag said:

I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.

Then quit if you can have any job you want by next week.


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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Teslag said:

I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.
Sounds like you should take Elon's offer then
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Funky Winkerbean said:

You can barely keep up but post here all day?


It takes like 30 seconds to read a post and reply to it
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Teslag said:

I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.


Yeah. You'd do great in the private sector.


This may come as a shock to you but most of my career was private sector and many companies value home life balance.
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HillCountry15 said:

Teslag said:

I don't live to work. I work to live. And I can pick up a phone and have any number of jobs by next week.

I'm not taking on extra hours for no additional pay because of an arbitrary cut in staff. We can barely keep up as it's. So ya, I'd just go work somewhere else and then they would be further behind.
Sounds like you should take Elon's offer then


My intent was to do so but there's no guarantee it would actually be paid.
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TexasAggie_02 said:

Lots of threads on reddit are calling for them to #RESIST by not taking the buyout and forcing them to lay them off so they can collect unemployment. If they resign, they don't get unemployment.

They obviously can't do the math.

Think how long it will take unemployment to add up to 8 months of regular pay. LOL.
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https://www.post-gazette.com/business/career-workplace/2025/02/06/federal-workers-buyout-deadline-resign-trump/stories/202502060080?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3--UTAwW0UaYRXnhCW_rEBug8CL_kGKspih0bAiOleVtoq0jfTMGD0VOU_aem_Cr5y0GbGvwOigrJ4Fo7LBw https://www.post-gazette.com/business/career-workplace/2025/02/06/federal-workers-buyout-deadline-resign-trump/stories/202502060080?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3--UTAwW0UaYRXnhCW_rEBug8CL_kGKspih0bAiOleVtoq0jfTMGD0VOU_aem_Cr5y0GbGvwOigrJ4Fo7LBw

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doubledog said:

2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.
I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.
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ts5641 said:

doubledog said:

2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.
I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.
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Teslag said:

ts5641 said:

doubledog said:

2% will never be missed. Trump needs to drop a hint that next Monday the layoffs begin.
I bet you could have 60% leave and not notice one bit of difference in the average American's life.

This would depend on the agency. If we lost 60% of our air traffic controllers or food inspection staff at USDA you'd feel it really quick.

Yeah, we'd probably have aircraft running into each other and kill 100 million chickens for bird flu.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Teslag said:

taxpreparer said:

Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.


That's fine, but I'm not working any extra to pick up the increased workload from being understaffed. And it will just result in longer approvals and regulatory timelines for private and public developers in our purview.


This is government worker mentality in a nutshell. Every single private employee on this board has been tasked with picking up an increased workload because of being understaffed. It's called work. We in private industry tend to solve the problems through innovation and efficiency gains.

But the fact that this is your mindset is wholly unsurprising, and in line with everything else you've posted on this board. It's just another one of your grifts.


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gabehcoud said:

People who were going to retire anyway. What a waste
We have a poster who was absolutely not going to retire but was strongly considering taking it. So I don't think that's 100% factual.
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If I remember correctly, to qualify for the buyout you had to be able to prove you did not have another job (double dip) the last four years of work from home.

40,000 or 2% were able to prove this, so I imagine that there is going to be a massive requirement to even discuss keeping your job, to also prove this.

The numbers laid off may be staggering, GOOD.
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taxpreparer said:

Teslag said:

From I saw in USACE most were high level GS engineers close to retirement anyway.

All we did was put them on a long Viking river cruise a summer earlier.


Maybe so, but this time, we need to not replace everyone who retires or takes the buyout.
And jail them if they have been gaming the system in any way.
 
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