Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Can we keep it all in the same thread?

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Why?

How about a separate thread for each instance of corruptness found?

oysterbayAG said:

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Common sense tells us to keep any parts of USAID that are a safety net for unfortunate people in need and get rid of the useless nut job stuff .

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It won't work because that's how we got here. They fund something then the next year come back and ask for 5% more, but that funding gets used for something else. It must be nuked by Congress

Science Denier said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Can we keep it all in the same thread?

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Why?

How about a separate thread for each instance of corruptness found?

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That is what's happening. And it's the same commentary over and over. A lot better discussion is generated imo when it's centralized. To each their own.

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Science Denier said:

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Can we keep it all in the same thread?

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Why?

How about a separate thread for each instance of corruptness found?

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That is what's happening. And it's the same commentary over and over. A lot better discussion is generated imo when it's centralized. To each their own.

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Many don't follow 50 pages of one single thread. Plus, adding to only one thread can add hundreds of new posts on a thread that's hard to follow.

Several threads separating them, allows one to see the headline, catch a few posts and move on.

Basically, more people see all the issues with more threads.

It has been fun to watch the water level drop below the gills of each of the various swamp creatures...one by one.

Politics-wise this has been the best two weeks of my life.

jh88ag said:

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"Under Natsios, who now teaches at the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M, USAID nearly doubled its budget to $14 billion with a worldwide workforce of 8,100 employees"

Typical bureaucrat brag. The only way bureaucrats evaluate their success is by how much they grew their programs.

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How many "conservatives" are teaching at the Bush School of Government and Public Service? For what kind of faculty are we paying using State of Texas and Texas A&M resources to prepare the next generation of public servants?

Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

Shouldn't an A&M professor know it's "bald-faced lie"?

texagbeliever said:

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I thought the bush school was generally considered a CIA recruiting pool. Now we know why. The professor who managed their slush funds worked there.

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The Bush Library is on pace to become a quaint museum of late 20th Century American politics. Meanwhile, the world passes them by.

AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is this a trial? We have seen the evidence and have judged it so. You are free to go a different route

nortex97 said:

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Natsios is a nice man but deceived and he should never be professor teaching our children. He's a communist.

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GTFO

And take most of the Marxist profs with you

Texas A&M and former USAID Director Andrew Natsios is another RINO. Collectively, USAID is a tool for regime change in foreign countries using NGO's to influence elections. It's time to dismantle USAID.

Iraq2xVeteran said:

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Texas A&M and former USAID Director Andrew Natsios is another RINO. Collectively, USAID is a tool for regime change in foreign countries using NGO's to influence elections. It's time to dismantle USAID.

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That answers the criminal activities question --- as if all the other things caught doing is not bad actor enough.

Iraq2xVeteran said:

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Texas A&M and former USAID Director Andrew Natsios is another RINO. Collectively, USAID is a tool for regime change in foreign countries using NGO's to influence elections. It's time to dismantle USAID.

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Yep. RINO is short-hand for slow-walking Commie symp.

texagbeliever said:

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I thought the bush school was generally considered a CIA recruiting pool. Now we know why. The professor who managed their slush funds worked there.

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Given that everything I've ever seen come of the bush school appears to be aligned with the interests of the globalist elites... I'd be happy to just shut the entire thing down... and anything/anyone that actually was doing good stuff there I'm sorry... but you're necessary collateral damage.

Absolutely outrageous and inexcusable that someone express an opinion on something they're an expert on.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is that what you said when Mayorkas told us the border was secure?

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Pretty asinine responses to what was a legitimate question. Not liking the distribution list for allocating aid is not the same as it being evidence of criminality. As in, actually breaking the law. If they did, they did, but how about actual examples of law breaking? As for Majorca's saying that, I agree the guy was clueless.

William K. Klingaman said:

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Why are all these leftists and RINOS so angry about an audit?

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Because they know they are getting audited next.

AggiePops said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is that what you said when Mayorkas told us the border was secure?

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Pretty asinine responses to what was a legitimate question. Not liking the distribution list for allocating aid is not the same as it being evidence of criminality. As in, actually breaking the law. If they did, they did, but how about actual examples of law breaking? As for Majorca's saying that, I agree the guy was clueless.

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Corruption is often illegal. They've exposed plenty of corruption already. But, assuming, arguendo, that you are right and the claim of criminality is hyperbole. Get used to it or quit watching the news. We've had to put up with the Left's hyperbole for more than fifty years, especially Donald Trump.

Do you think anyone on the Right now cares about being nice to the Left? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

AggiePops said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is that what you said when Mayorkas told us the border was secure?

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Pretty asinine responses to what was a legitimate question. Not liking the distribution list for allocating aid is not the same as it being evidence of criminality. As in, actually breaking the law. If they did, they did, but how about actual examples of law breaking? As for Majorca's saying that, I agree the guy was clueless.

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No. it's the response to the same liars trying to hide our own expenditures from us. It's illegal, and they need to be brought to justice. Anyone defending it is corrupt himself.

WolfCall said:

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AggiePops said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is that what you said when Mayorkas told us the border was secure?

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Pretty asinine responses to what was a legitimate question. Not liking the distribution list for allocating aid is not the same as it being evidence of criminality. As in, actually breaking the law. If they did, they did, but how about actual examples of law breaking? As for Majorca's saying that, I agree the guy was clueless.

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Corruption is often illegal. They've exposed plenty of corruption already. But, assuming, arguendo, that you are right and the claim of criminality is hyperbole. Get used to it or quit watching the news. We've had to put up with the Left's hyperbole for more than fifty years, especially Donald Trump.

Do you think anyone on the Right now cares about being nice to the Left? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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A year ago plenty on the Right, including numerous posters in TexAgs, agreed Trump was personally a piece of crap and hoped DeSantis would get the nomination. Talk about leaves blowing in the wind. Hey, I'm good with paring down government bureaucracy, doing away with waste and unnecessary red tape. Good policy. Same with kicking out criminal migrants and shutting off more illegal migration. I'm also good with merit based hiring and promotions but not good with saying DEI is bad and position needs to be based on merit only and then following that up by putting people into positions of authority whose chief 'merit' is being a Trump 'yes' man. I'm good with calling for free speech but not good with Trump demanding a journalist be axed because he wrote pieces that were critical of him. Cutting down on the inefficiency of government is good but creating a new sort of chaos in doing so is not as it's just another kind of inefficiency and incompetence.

You can call anyone to the left of the far Right to be a leftist but that's just a combination of ignorance and arrogance. There are a lot of people, including life-long conservatives who voted Republican in November included with those left of the far Right. Actually, most of the men who crafted the Constitution would be called leftists by the current far Right, who are the only ones happy with the way Trump and his toadies are trying to force dominance by the executive branch and reducing the checks and balances called for by the Constitution.

Based on what you wrote you don't care what I think or want. No problem, all it does is show that if you call yourself an American Patriot, you're a fraud. You're still an American with a right to your opinion though and I support your right to feel however you want.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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AggiePops said:

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Anyone seen or heard Musk elaborate on why he considers USAID to be a criminal organization and what evidence he has to back it up? It DOES take more than him simply saying so.

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Is that what you said when Mayorkas told us the border was secure?

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Pretty asinine responses to what was a legitimate question. Not liking the distribution list for allocating aid is not the same as it being evidence of criminality. As in, actually breaking the law. If they did, they did, but how about actual examples of law breaking? As for Majorca's saying that, I agree the guy was clueless.

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No. it's the response to the same liars trying to hide our own expenditures from us. It's illegal, and they need to be brought to justice. Anyone defending it is corrupt himself.

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Absolutely anything illegal needs to be stopped and punished. Any big program like USAID is bound to have some corruption involved, same as happened with each of the three COVID relief packages, and it needs to be discovered and rooted out. Throwing out the baby with the bath water has never been a good idea though. You don't apply an axe to the neck to get rid of a hangnail.

Hey professor when do you lend aide to the working man? Oh that's right you just take from him against his will and force him to work more. Time for this bull pie system to end and now. Why are so many Americans happy about musk and Trump? Because we are tired of the theft of our money from guys like you. Take a hike.

beeger12 said:

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Love how others discount people with experience "in the field" because it goes against the narrative they want to believe. If you think the actions Musk and his teenage DOGE squad are taking is all about "gov't waste" and it doesn't put America at risk, I think you are being shortsighted. This administration and their actions at the CIA, FBI, Treasury, USAID, and DOJ are illegal, unwarranted and idiotic. It is just retribution for anyone and anything going against Trump. He is doing exactly what we were warned he would do.

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Please explain how their actions are illegal. Use the Federal Code of Regulations and any pertinent laws and/or Federal Legislation. Include links to said information.

infinity ag said:

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I hope Trump investigates this entire affair and all the players involved, whoever they are. Even going back in time.

Prof Natsios's A&M profile
'What Elon Musk Said Is a Bold-Faced Lie'
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/02/04/elon-musk-usaid-00202409
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quote from the article;

• Andrew Natsios, who ran USAID under President George W. Bush and is a lifelong conservative Republican, calls such moves "illegal" and "outrageous." What Musk and Rubio are doing "is criminal. They can't abolish the aid program without a vote of Congress

According to statements from the Administration they are not shutting down USAID.
Someone needs to explain this to this professor.
Also, calling someone a bold faced liar seems grounds for a slander or defamation lawsuit.

There are a lot of people out there who believe that we taxpayers are born to be ridden and that they themsevles were born with spurs.