Texas A&M pausing enrollment growth

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6:03p, 1/23/25


Interesting development. Have we gotten to big?

https://thebatt.com/news/am-to-limit-undergraduate-enrollment-growth-implement-development-plans-across-campus/

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The enrollment growth pause will limit new undergraduate enrollments at the main campus to 15,000 annually 11,750 freshmen and 3,250 transfer students and won't affect graduate or online programs, Welsh said. The limit gives A&M time to build the infrastructure and capacity necessary to properly accommodate students, including an additional 2,500 beds worth of on-campus housing. In Fall 2024, the College Station campus had 57,659 undergraduate students enrolled, a 33% increase over the past decade.


Tis only temporary while they expand campus even more.
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6:06p, 1/23/25
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They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.
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6:22p, 1/23/25
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Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:28p, 1/23/25
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Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.
I think SHSU just hit 20k for the first time last year that's a bit under double from when I started.

TAMU in that same period has gone from 35K to 70K+.

So either late genx and early geny are part rabbit, or there is a serious issue with college admissions

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In reply to zooguy96 • 6:29p, 1/23/25
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They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.


We have satellite campuses. We have satellite campuses that generate amazing graduates.

What we don't have is an admin that will promote them. Things like "Pathway to a Doctorate" should be promoted, which is special funding and admissions to those with degrees within the system wanting to get a graduate degree from CS. We also need to incentivize students to take 1-2 years at the satellite campuses and protect their path into A&M versus outsourcing that to Blinn.

The Penn State system is what Texas A&M will ultimately have to go to if they are serious about managing class sizes. Where if you apply and are accepted you can attend any of the satellite schools that offer your pathway at lower tuitions and when you get to higher classifications you then have the option to switch to State College Campus.
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In reply to zooguy96 • 6:32p, 1/23/25
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zooguy96 said:
They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.


They are. There's a massive campus being built in Fort Worth. Graduates will get Aggie rings and the diplomas will say college station.
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6:32p, 1/23/25
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Build more satellite campuses is an idea but kids don't want to go to school in Kingsville tx they wanna go to Texas A&M at College Station cuz its awesome. If they can't get in they go to OU or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Tech any low admission standard school that has big football.
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6:35p, 1/23/25
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I could be wrong but I think I heard Abbott is freezing tuition again, too.
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:35p, 1/23/25
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aggiehawg said:
Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.


Student enrollment is 1973 was 18,410. I was a freshman in 1974 and there were about 17,000 men and 3,000 women then. So 27,000 in the fall of 76 was explosive growth… which is exactly what it seemed like to me during that time.

Aggiehawg, I really appreciate your posts on Texags.
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6:37p, 1/23/25
So no more diploma mill?
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6:38p, 1/23/25
It needs to be drastically reduced

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In reply to infinity ag • 6:39p, 1/23/25
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Just retooling the mill to allow for more volume
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:41p, 1/23/25
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aggiehawg said:
Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.


Fall of 81 there were 32k
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In reply to Icecream_Ag • 6:41p, 1/23/25
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aggiehawg said:
Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.
I think SHSU just hit 20k for the first time last year that's a bit under double from when I started.

TAMU in that same period has gone from 35K to 70K+.

So either late genx and early geny are part rabbit, or there is a serious issue with college admissions



We have two flagship public schools in a State of 33,000,000 people....and we have the top 10% rule.

That is the problem.

Esp considering the disparity between High Schools
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:46p, 1/23/25
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aggiehawg said:
Man, I started A&M in fall of '76. I think the total # of students back then was about 27,000 undergrad.


And the state's population has gone from about 13 mil to over 32 mil since 1976.
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In reply to Teslag • 6:51p, 1/23/25
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Teslag said:
zooguy96 said:
They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.


They are. There's a massive campus being built in Fort Worth. Graduates will get Aggie rings and the diplomas will say college station.
Which IMO is not the way it should be. Rings should be limited to CS/Galveston and the professional schools.

Other "satellites" should be part of the system schools like Tarleton, A&M Central Texas, WTAMU, etc, Allowing Aggie ring purchases at satellite schools outside of CS really dilutes the A&M "experience".
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In reply to pfo • 6:57p, 1/23/25
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Student enrollment is 1973 was 18,410. I was a freshman in 1974 and there were about 17,000 men and 3,000 women then. So 27,000 in the fall of 76 was explosive growth… which is exactly what it seemed like to me during that time.
Late brother started A&M in 1971. Lived on campus, either Puryear or Davis Gary that year. (Can't remember which but he lived in both during his time on campus.)

Anyway, I was twelve but very tall for my age. My folks and I were visiting him at the dorm and at one point, I was sitting in his room alone with the door open to the hall. A guy passed by and then walked back and started talking with me.

Bro comes back, "That's my sister! I know there aren't a lot of women here but she's twelve!" Gave my brother a dirty look about that one.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 6:58p, 1/23/25
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Me too! It was a nice size in those days.
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In reply to infinity ag • 6:59p, 1/23/25
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infinity ag said:
So no more diploma mill?
No, they just ran out of ink.
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In reply to zooguy96 • 7:18p, 1/23/25
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zooguy96 said:
They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.
Here is a good example of that:
Texas A&M - Fort Worth



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7:21p, 1/23/25
Don't know if I buy the reasoning on this one. Pausing growth during periods of incredible profit growth is never a good sign. Elon has hinted that the bloat in higher ed is going to be addressed. Something tells me someone sees the writing on the wall and knows a significant chunk of useless administrative staff will be downsized, and they don't want to be adding students during it.
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7:24p, 1/23/25
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TAMC enrollment in 1926 was 2,395.

Article with graph
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7:25p, 1/23/25
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My buddy today said his kid at a satellite campus and when she went to transfer to A&M they paid her to stay.
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7:26p, 1/23/25
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Some of y'all are confusing system schools with satellite campuses. TAMU Kingsville, TAMU Corpus Christi, West Texas A&M, Tarlton, are NOT satellite campuses. They are system schools. System schools are separate universities in the A&M system and don't necessarily provide a path to Texas A&M.

The satellite campuses are just that and different.
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In reply to Icecream_Ag • 7:32p, 1/23/25
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Icecream_Ag said:
there is a serious issue with college admissions
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7:33p, 1/23/25
I think BCS could use some time to catch up
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7:36p, 1/23/25
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Texas needs more tier 1 universities.
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7:43p, 1/23/25
Tarleton has 18,000 enrolled so they're full.
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In reply to TommyBrady • 7:57p, 1/23/25
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TommyBrady said:
Build more satellite campuses is an idea but kids don't want to go to school in Kingsville tx they wanna go to Texas A&M at College Station cuz its awesome. If they can't get in they go to OU or Arkansas or Ole Miss or Tech any low admission standard school that has big football.

I don't know if this is what they're doing, but they recently changed A&M Commerce to East Texas A&M (or whatever it is). Maybe the idea is to differentiate the A&M at ___ schools as sat. campuses instead of independent universities. A&M Commerce/ETAM is an independent school in the A&m system. You could leave the current A&M system schools as is, except for ones like Corpus and San Antonio, and like Galveston, make them Sat. campuses and I think you'd be OK. Nowhere near tech.

Oh, and some of the other schools on your list aren't necessarily low admission. OU and Ark are only slightly more accepting than A&M (in the mid-70% vs. A&M in the low to mid-60s). Ole Miss will let anyone who can puke after drinking heavily in.
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In reply to Fins Up! • 8:05p, 1/23/25
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Fins Up! said:
Some of y'all are confusing system schools with satellite campuses. TAMU Kingsville, TAMU Corpus Christi, West Texas A&M, Tarlton, are NOT satellite campuses. They are system schools. System schools are separate universities in the A&M system and don't necessarily provide a path to Texas A&M.

The satellite campuses just that.


Fair point. Just searched and "A&M" consists of CS campus, Galveston, Qatar, Law and Health campuses.

All the others are "A&M system" schools which, while they share some management/oversight, are separate schools.
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8:07p, 1/23/25
I understand that we are at or very near the projected peak for college enrollment in the US. I think I read total college enrollment will start shrinking in a few years and a number of little schools all over the US will go out of business. In the meantime, for some reason, everybody has decided that they all need to go to the same 100 schools out of over 750 colleges. This is creating wildly unnecessary anxiety in admissions.
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A&M also includes the McAllen campus.

TAMUS is currently in talks to acquire Univ. of Houston - Victoria. Sharp recently announced it at an Aggie Mom event.
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In reply to cecil77 • 8:22p, 1/23/25
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cecil77 said:
Texas needs more tier 1 universities.
Such as? Tech has struggled for years to get the lowest scientific research designation.

So besides Rice, U of H? DallasUT?
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In reply to Teslag • 8:27p, 1/23/25
Teslag said:
zooguy96 said:
They should build more satellite campuses rather than adding to the main campus.


They are. There's a massive campus being built in Fort Worth. Graduates will get Aggie rings and the diplomas will say college station.
hence the very high crane and Aggie flag flying over downtown I suppose.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 8:32p, 1/23/25
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Who?mikejones! said:


Interesting development. Have we gotten to big?

https://thebatt.com/news/am-to-limit-undergraduate-enrollment-growth-implement-development-plans-across-campus/

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The enrollment growth pause will limit new undergraduate enrollments at the main campus to 15,000 annually 11,750 freshmen and 3,250 transfer students and won't affect graduate or online programs, Welsh said. The limit gives A&M time to build the infrastructure and capacity necessary to properly accommodate students, including an additional 2,500 beds worth of on-campus housing. In Fall 2024, the College Station campus had 57,659 undergraduate students enrolled, a 33% increase over the past decade.


Tis only temporary while they expand campus even more.

We've grown right past big. Maybe too big to teach basic English to whole undergraduate cohorts.
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