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There is absolutely nothing unsafe about GMO's and glyphosate

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YOu are being sarcastic, but still told the truth

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Rocky, I know you just meme without worrying too much, but I'd like to see anyone prove the above, if they can.

I doubt it is accurate.

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Rocky, I know you just meme without worrying too much, but I'd like to see anyone prove the above, if they can.

I doubt it is accurate.

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Canyon, this article is pretty interesting on the changes in our diets. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8805510/

I was specifically wondering about the claims that crops were not as nutritious as in the past.

Yeah, I haven 't found anything specifically to show that.

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Yeah, I haven 't found anything specifically to show that.

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There's little doubt that the kinds of foods and the level of processing in the American diet has changed.

That's a lot different than saying "corn today has 7% less" whatever

This article seems to support the idea in the meme. Would be interesting to see the research rather than just an article, but does raise some questions.

https://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/follow-the-food/why-modern-food-lost-its-nutrients/#:~:text=The%20nutritional%20values%20of%20some,middle%20of%20the%2020th%20Century.

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I was specifically wondering about the claims that crops were not as nutritious as in the past.

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I would like to see data as well...but I am just kind of used to finding out bad news, and used to our regulatory agencies and diet/health experts lying to us. The food pyramid is a hoax. I just saw an article yesterday from a MSM source, talking about the wondrous health benefits of eggs...which have been demonized most of my life. Experts also try to steer us away from red meats and healthy fats.

All that to say, I would not be surprised one bit if the food grown today was either bad for us, or less nutritious than back in the 50's...but, hell, it could be the opposite. I'd be curious to see real data.

Something we are consuming these days is having crazy effects on our endocrine systems...even in healty men, avg testosterone dates have PLUMMETED since the 1980's...my guess would be all the plastics we use for food and drink consumption and storage.

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.

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The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?

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Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.

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I walk or run 5 mikes a day in Houston, it isnt hard if you make the time.

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.

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The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?

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Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.

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I walk or run 5 mikes a day in Houston, it isnt hard if you make the time.

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Barring injuries or extreme health conditions, there is ZERO reason why someone can't take a 45 min brisk walk 3-5 times a week. Or at least work up to being able to do that within a month or two (if morbidly obese).

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.

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The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?

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Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.

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I walk or run 5 mikes a day in Houston, it isnt hard if you make the time.

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The point is that exercise is not the key to weight loss. He's right. An hour walk burns 300. You have to control calories.

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.

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The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?

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Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.

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I don't believe you. People need to stop blaming others for their choices, take accountability, and be who they want. I don't want different "policies" designed around others with limited self-discipline, and I have contempt for those that think that individual obesity is someone else's fault. Learn to live with the abundance we have created.

It much easier to blame bad food, terrible healthcare system, and things out of their control for obesity than to admit you're obese because you lack self control to eat less.

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There is absolutely nothing unsafe about GMO's and glyphosate

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YOu are being sarcastic, but still told the truth

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Wasn't being sarcastic at all. There's no scientific data behind GMO or glyphosate being harmful.

I agree, but you had a smiley face so I assumed sarcasm

I was in high school in the '50s, There were about 700 in the school. I can think of only four that we thought were way overweight; not one of them would be noticed today. One of the boys came to A&M as a member of the Corps of Cadets and earned his degree in civil engineering. There were no chain fast-food places in the town. of 25,000. Obesity is definitely detrimental to health.

Likely not the case with most people, but sometimes our bodies do weird things.

In the past, if I wanted to lose weight, I'd work out more, eat less, or both and it would fall off. Over the past couple of years, I've been gaining weight and despite whatever I did, I couldn't get it to drop. My diet is better than most (a lot of salads, meat, and vegetables). I'm not a snacker or a sweets guy (weaknesses of others I know). When working out didn't work, I tried intermittent fasting and dropped down to one meal a day. When that didn't work, I tried fasting for a week at a time. It gets pretty frustrating waking up early to workout and eating healthy once a day (or not at all) and getting hardly any results over a sustained period.

I found a new doctor that doesn't take insurance because she doesn't want an insurance company dictating how she practices medicine. She did a ton of blood tests and figured out that while my thyroid tests that it is functioning in the low normal range, I have another hormone essentially canceling out the T3 that my thyroid makes which basically means I have have no metabolism.

She put me on T3 (we're still dialing it in) but I've lost 30 pounds in two months without changing anything else. Good to finally get answers and something that is working.

But yes, most people eat garbage and are lazy. I think the shots are funny because all they do is make you eat less, its not a magic formula.

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I agree, but you had a smiley face so I assumed sarcasm

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It's one of my greatest annoyances. For centuries the world longed to get rid of disease carrying insects in our food supply. And we got rid of them. Weeds limited production and destroyed crops. Food was more expensive and limited. People starved. Or farmers lost their fields and livelihoods. So we safely fixed it.

And now people want to go back to that. Because "healthy". We don't know what a truly unhealthy world looks like. And you see it now with people ridiculously shunning things like pasteurization. It's madness. And idiocy.

For 95% of fat people eating less is the magic formula.

As A&M Professor Emeritus Norman Borlaug said, and I'm paraphrasing heavily, we can go totally organic and not use chemicals to farm.

We just need to decide first, which 2/3 of the population we want to starve to death.

Another 1,700,000,000 people will be showing up for dinner in 25 years. They will be hungry

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For 95% of fat people eating less is the magic formula.

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Agree. My only point was that not every fat guy (me) chooses to be a fat guy out of laziness.

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Seems like we are losing our country due to poor health and no one even had to fire a missile.

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Tell it to the Sugar industry that doesn't produce much sugarcane in America anymore, but has one of the largest lobby groups.

To whoever put this together. You are my hero !!

I saw this a while back and had to find it, and boy was hard to find. Listen to excerpts from her moronic ted talk about how great and healthy being fat is . You tell me does she sound healthy ??

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As A&M Professor Emeritus Norman Borlaug said, and I'm paraphrasing heavily, we can go totally organic and not use chemicals to farm.

We just need to decide first, which 2/3 of the population we want to starve to death.

Another 1,700,000,000 people will be showing up for dinner in 25 years. They will be hungry

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This^^. Without the agriculture we have, the world population would be much smaller. And hungrier.

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Wegovy has been a lifesaver for me, after a being diagnosed with Hashimoto disease and PTSD, the drugs I was prescribed made me ravenously hungry every night around bed time and I put on around 50 lbs over a 6 month period. I already exercised but starting Wegovy helped curb the late night hunger pains and I've lost around 40lbs since starting it. It's also done wonders to improve my blood pressure

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I don't remember seeing any fat people 60 years ago. Moved from Houston to Phoenix a couple of years ago and it's very noticeable how many more people are fit here. Even when it's hot people are outside but this time of year everyone it seems is out.

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Look at a couple of episodes of The Andry Griffith Show. Filmed in the 60's. Even the 5060-year-old men had flat stomachs for the most part.

The American Diabetes Association guidelines pretty much tell you how to get and keep diabetes... that's one problem.
People don't even know what real food is anymore.
Junk food is intentionally made to be hyper palatable, so you keep going if you're not really hungry.
I guess we should be free to chose these items, but people should know the truth about the fact that it's garbage and has no nutritional value.

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I know, I know - old topic.

But today, we went to Eggsquisite Cafe in Mansfield for breakfast. There were 6 other men in the restaurant.

Every one of them were at least 100 lbs heavier than me. Every. Single. One. And a couple of them were at least 450-500 lbs.

Just insane how bad things have gotten. Not sure what can be done, but best of hopes to RFK Jr to do whatever the feds can do.

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Next time you go to your doctors office, or any hospital look around at how many 'bariatric" chairs there are, all over the place. This was not a thing 30-years ago.

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The American Diabetes Association guidelines pretty much tell you how to get and keep diabetes... that's one problem.
People don't even know what real food is anymore.
Junk food is intentionally made to be hyper palatable, so you keep going if you're not really hungry.
I guess we should be free to chose these items, but people should know the truth about the fact that it's garbage and has no nutritional value.

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I could easily maintain a healthy weight eating nothing but fast food

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The American Diabetes Association guidelines pretty much tell you how to get and keep diabetes... that's one problem.
People don't even know what real food is anymore.
Junk food is intentionally made to be hyper palatable, so you keep going if you're not really hungry.
I guess we should be free to chose these items, but people should know the truth about the fact that it's garbage and has no nutritional value.

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I could easily maintain a healthy weight eating nothing but fast food

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But would you be healthy?

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They're just bulking up before they start jabbing themselves with Wegovy and Ozempic needles. Real shocker that big pharma has found a way to profit big while making folks not even have to put forth effort to shed weight.

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Most people aren't losing weight because of all the junk in our food and the fact that we have a culture dependent on sitting in front of a computer all day. Not to mention the mental health issues that are often left untreated due to our country's atrocious health care policies. It's not about the lack of"effort", it's policy failures on almost every front.

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The food industry and "culture" prevent you from going outside for a walk?

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Going out for a walk is not going to solve obesity. You'll burn what 300 calories in an hour?

How many neighborhoods even have sidewalks? There are barely sidewalks inside the city of Houston. It's mostly narrow roads w/out sidewalks. A lot of neighborhoods don't even have grocery stores nearby, there are such things as food deserts.

Furthermore, if you're working 8-10 hours a day, commuting 1-2 hours, and having to take care of kids you are left with very little time to cook healthy foods and exercise.

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These are choices. Someone living this lifestyle has placed their health far down the priority list and are looking to blame someone else for their obesity. You can exercise at home. I do P90X in a small room several days a week (when I'm not being lazy). No gym membership and no sidewalks required.

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Yeah everyone should definitely choose to workout as opposed to working to provide for their family.....

I'm unsure if you realize that not everyone has the same circumstances and choices as you do.

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I'm unsure if you're being serious or just trolling. I've had a full time job for the last 35 years. During that time I raised two sons and was very active in their lives. I coached many of their little league teams and was also married during this period. I made exercising a higher priority. It doesn't take more than 30 minutes to get in a good run or home workout.

My wife and I bought healthy groceries and kept sweets out of the house except during holidays. When we'd visit our friends that were on the heavier side I always saw a fridge full of sodas and a pantry full of chips and other junk. They ate a lot of crappy food and their kids were fat, too.

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What planet are you living on that you think everyone's life is like yours and have the freedom to make the same choices and have the sam opportunities you do?

Yeah, lots of lazy fat people out there, but also lots of folks doing everything they can just to make ends meet and by the end of the day don't have a lot of energy to get those 30-minutes in, nor the tools or even availability of good food to eat and prepare for their families.

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The American Diabetes Association guidelines pretty much tell you how to get and keep diabetes... that's one problem.
People don't even know what real food is anymore.
Junk food is intentionally made to be hyper palatable, so you keep going if you're not really hungry.
I guess we should be free to chose these items, but people should know the truth about the fact that it's garbage and has no nutritional value.

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I could easily maintain a healthy weight eating nothing but fast food

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But would you be healthy?

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Yes.

As we get older it's easier to be sedentary. I live in a golf retirement community in Arizona and park at the pro shop rather than my garage. Each time I leave the neighborhood I'm forced to walk roughly half a mile to get my vehicle and then roughly half a mile when I return to get back home. I walk around sundown each day. Makes a difference.

Was at Sam's club today. Every person there was overweight