Lol. My X feed went crazy for a few hours with engagement slop I never engage with when the debate got heated yesterday

Sea Speed said:

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This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.

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Haha same, thought it was just me

This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.

gbaby23 said:

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If Indian culture creates India, I want it nowhere near America.

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Already happening - just go take a look at McKinney now. Little India up there.

Brother Shamus said:

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gbaby23 said:

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If Indian culture creates India, I want it nowhere near America.

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Already happening - just go take a look at McKinney now. Little India up there.

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I have heard. Such a shame.

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Brother Shamus said:

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gbaby23 said:

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If Indian culture creates India, I want it nowhere near America.

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Already happening - just go take a look at McKinney now. Little India up there.

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I have heard. Such a shame.

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They bring their caste stuff over here. I've seen it inside my company where they treat each other differently, with complete disrespect, and I'm convinced it's because of caste. Giving them control over our tech companies has been a huge mistake.

The schools are having a hard time fielding athletic teams, especially football, up there as none of the Indian kids play those sports nor are they encouraged.

So things are changing and so has America throughout its history - however it's interesting, for better or worse, to see it change like this in Texas. From a religious standpoint it's new to see tons of Hindu temples flying up all over the place in north Dallas.

How it will shake out with regards to culture in the region will be interesting nonetheless.

Sea Speed said:

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This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.

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Yeah it's not showing responses and it freezes out when you post half the time

Come down to SA brother, lots of Catholic Churches and plenty of football.

Brother Shamus said:

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gbaby23 said:

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If Indian culture creates India, I want it nowhere near America.

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Already happening - just go take a look at McKinney now. Little India up there.

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McKinney? I thought that was lily white

Sea Speed said:

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This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.

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I can access every thread except for this one on my phone, pretty suspicious....

Indians in America scamming the R1 visa as well to use slave labor for their extravagant temples

In case you didn't know, high caste Indians import low caste Indians to the US to do slave labor. Oh, and they do this *legally* (R1 visa lol). This is the type of person Trump and his donors want to flood America with.
Are these the glorious fruits of diversity?
Jared Taylor pic.twitter.com/2hvtYzqg7z

— classicsgroyp (@classicsgroyp) September 7, 2024

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We already have that; O-1 Visa

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O-1's are very rare and really only for people with PhDs, multiple patents, and that have done a lot of speaking engagements. They are also very random. I've seen people denied for O-1 that seemed perfect and people get them that I scratch my head.

As to the larger thread you seem to want it both ways. Do you want to greatly limit H-1s or do you want to prevent offshoring? Can't have both, they work in opposition to each other.

I think there is rampant abuse in the H-1 system but overall it's a good concept. It needs to be much more limited and they need to crack down hard on the consulting firms like Tata and Cognizant that abuse the hell out of it. It should be merit based and not a lottery (that has never made sense to me). It needs to be more balanced as we have far too many from India and China as well as a few other countries. Those countries produce some amazing talent but they need to be severely restricted.

There are other abuses. For instance my company has stopped recruiting from a Top 20 University because they have some great candidates but almost all of them can't get an Export License. Why? They are overwhelmingly Chinese citizens on visa. The real abuses happen at the Grad school level btw, the amount of grad school folks who are on visa is just insane in technical areas. The schools want them so they can charge full tuition and OOS for public schools and they gladly pay it.

Shutting it off entirely is not a rational response. Major reform is. This is a very different problem than illegal immigration. Still a very real problem but it needs to be addressed in a different way. We want the Elon Musk's and Sundar Pachai's and Lisa Su's and Satya Nadella's and Jensen Huang's to come here. None were born in the US and they lead Tesla, Google, AMD, Microsoft, and Nvidia just for starters. Now you could argue that we don't want all tech companies led by immigrants as well but we certainly want that level of talent here.

Also, in my experience in technical recruiting for 30 years I have seen very, very few instances where a company is paying less for talent because of H-1's. It absolutely happens but it is typically with the big consulting firms as mentioned before. Some of the packages I regularly pay out to H-1s are for massive amounts, especially in Silicon Valley.

VerdeAg said:

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We already have that; O-1 Visa

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O-1's are very rare and really only for people with PhDs, multiple patents, and that have done a lot of speaking engagements. They are also very random. I've seen people denied for O-1 that seemed perfect and people get them that I scratch my head.

As to the larger thread you seem to want it both ways. Do you want to greatly limit H-1s or do you want to prevent offshoring? Can't have both, they work in opposition to each other.

I think there is rampant abuse in the H-1 system but overall it's a good concept. It needs to be much more limited and they need to crack down hard on the consulting firms like Tata and Cognizant that abuse the hell out of it. It should be merit based and not a lottery (that has never made sense to me). It needs to be more balanced as we have far too many from India and China as well as a few other countries. Those countries produce some amazing talent but they need to be severely restricted.

There are other abuses. For instance my company has stopped recruiting from a Top 20 University because they have some great candidates but almost all of them can't get an Export License. Why? They are overwhelmingly Chinese citizens on visa. The real abuses happen at the Grad school level btw, the amount of grad school folks who are on visa is just insane in technical areas. The schools want them so they can charge full tuition and OOS for public schools and they gladly pay it.

Shutting it off entirely is not a rational response. Major reform is. This is a very different problem than illegal immigration. Still a very real problem but it needs to be addressed in a different way. We want the Elon Musk's and Sundar Pachai's and Lisa Su's and Satya Nadella's and Jensen Huang's to come here. None were born in the US and they lead Tesla, Google, AMD, Microsoft, and Nvidia just for starters. Now you could argue that we don't want all tech companies led by immigrants as well but we certainly want that level of talent here.

Also, in my experience in technical recruiting for 30 years I have seen very, very few instances where a company is paying less for talent because of H-1's. It absolutely happens but it is typically with the big consulting firms as mentioned before. Some of the packages I regularly pay out to H-1s are for massive amounts, especially in Silicon Valley.

Trump needs to halt or penalize outsourcing more. His argument for tariffs are that foreign countries are undercutting American made with cheap labor. The same is happening with jobs. In Hungary, Thailand, Brazil, India, Argentina American workers are being replaced with overseas labor that is payed 10-20% of Americans. Management is then granted millions of dollars of stock for their restructuring.

What if in return for lowering the corp tax rate to 15% foreign labor and services is not tax deductible.

The most immediate change to encourage self deportation is extreme taxes on remittances.

You're telling me there is a lack of entry level talent in America? When 150,000 people were laid off in STEM this year?

Sea Speed said:

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This website is all screwy today. Anyone else seeing that? Maybe texags has an office full of Indian IT workers and they don't like this convo.

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Either that, or....

From what the internet is saying, working for Elon absolutely sucks. He has high turnover at space x cause he can't hire h-1b

You're working under the same flawed assumption that only foreign workers can do the work, and that this twisted model is sustainable

Trump's Crypto Czar David Sacks' podcast co host says we need 5 million Immigrants per year.

We should be trying to grow to 1b Americans

Recruit 5m immigrants to America every year for the next 20! 🇺🇸 https://t.co/iVWB2qVChs

— @jason (@Jason) December 26, 2024

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DannyDuberstein said:

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So many of these H1-Bs absolutely suck at their job. Give me 1 competent American IT guy over 10 of these clowns

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Ever notice how most financial institutions (USAA being the big one) have outsourced their phone centers, support to India. It's absolutely infuriating that these jobs could easily be done by Americans who can actually speak english

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This is all companies, and they've been doing it for decades. Most of these jobs will get eaten by AI anyway.

VerdeAg said:

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From what the internet is saying, working for Elon absolutely sucks. He has high turnover at space x cause he can't hire h-1b

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He expects people to work like founders when they are plebs with none of the benefits.

Work 100 hour weeks to start your own tech company? Great!

Work 100 hour weeks to do mid level coding? Ridiculous.

Sorry kiddo, no baseball practice today, pulling you out of that unamerican pasttime for extra math tutoring. You were just at school for 8 hours? That leaves another 7 and a half to practice for spelling bee pic.twitter.com/lJBht2WRee

— captive dreamer (@captivedreamer7) December 26, 2024

Nanomachines son said:

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Sorry kiddo, no baseball practice today, pulling you out of that unamerican pasttime for extra math tutoring. You were just at school for 8 hours? That leaves another 7 and a half to practice for spelling bee pic.twitter.com/lJBht2WRee

— captive dreamer (@captivedreamer7) December 26, 2024

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I would say that the caption should really be the kid should prepare to work with no time off, or he will be fired. Regardless of how many spelling bees he/she wins. Being smart does not matter

This is what Elon and Vivek want, a class of workers who do nothing but work, no time for anything besides eat work sleep. It will propel their interests and they can take all the glory.

Now take a look at the trucking industry and H1-B's.....

this is quite a happening, politically speaking.

At least the right isn't afraid of engaging in friendly fire if the ideas the supposed-friendlies are speaking when they take the mask off are completely obvious pivots to get what they want personally instead of staying on the path of the platform that put them in positions of influence.

Cant say that about BlueAnon.

Trump tells @theallinpod that if you graduate from a US college, you should automatically get a green card with your diploma.

"We need brilliant people"

🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/PKDklsBG0l

— Max Meyer (@mualphaxi) June 20, 2024

I’ve been following the Silicon Valley Sultans online for going on fifteen years now and I have never seen them this shook. Silicon Valley’s “best and brightest” have been reduced to blabbering idiots when presented with how real Americans feel about their indentured servant…

— Andrew Torba (@BasedTorba) December 26, 2024

Good

Bad Trump.

No ****ing way anyone who comes over here and gets a grevience studies major should get a green card. People would be headhunted based on skills and abilities, and most of all to the benefit of the American economy. There should be hundreds of these people a year, and it should be a desired privilege, not the standard.