H1-Bs and Trump's AI advisor

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El Gallo Blanco
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VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.
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Deep down, Indians will always consider white Americans (an America in general) an extension of the British Empire.

I have seen them on X saying America would not exist without "stolen Indian wealth"
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This sums up my problem with H1-B as currently used.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.
I don't think the "white nationalists" are blind; I think they just don't care. They know America will never be predominantly white ever again, no matter what they do to keep minorities out or by trying to procreate families of multiple children, so it could just be (IMO) that when they talk about "delaying the inevitable," on other topics, they are also including this (legal immigrants) as well.
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Blatant indian nepotism
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Stymied said:

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Didn't say that. Companies should hire the employees the provide the most value for the dollar. That's what the free market incentivizes.

It appears many of you on this thread don't want that. I don't disagree that outsourced or imported talent often doesn't provide the best value for the dollar. However, the concept that the government should start making policy to distort the value for pay trade off is not a conservative position. It's a pretty left wing one that leads to government controlled markets, unions (and the inefficiency that comes with them), and all of the other great things that socialism has.


I only care about Americans. The only foreigners I want are those that qualify for O-1 visas. There is no need for H1-Bs at all.
OK. Are you going to keep companies from moving design centers outside the US? That's the other way this happens.

BTW, I don't disagree that H-1B visas are misused and should be heavily reformed. They are a big area of abuse by US companies.


We hold these companies hostage because all of the financial backing is located here. They pretty much have to do what we tell them to do because there is no other place for them to go and have a successful company.

So yeah we can actually dictate reality to them.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
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Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.
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RebelE Infantry said:

VerdeAg said:

At least the illegals are Catholic and assimilate for the most part


They are becoming less and less Catholic and I'd disagree that assimilate very well at all.

Even so, as one of the resident Catholic extremists, I firmly maintain the position of "send them all back. Every last one of them."


Latin America is becoming Protestant rapidly anyway. That's if they aren't abandoning religion. Regardless, they don't belong here either and I agree with your sentiment, send them all back.

The fact that Catholics and Protestant Americans are united on this issue says everything at this point.
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The real reason people anre against bringing the best talent from around the world to the U.S. is fear of being outworked, out talented, outsmarted, and undercut in pay for better service.

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VerdeAg said:

I'm not advocating for them at all. That being said I'll take 1k Mexican illegals over 100 Indian h-1B visas


I'd take Hispanics over Indians in a heartbeat. It's not a contest. The latter are so utterly revolting on the whole that I can't find anything redeemable about them at all anymore.

Anyone who has criticized them on X gets inundated with dozens to hundreds of "SAAR YOU WHITE DEVILS WILL BE REPLACED AND YOU DESARVE IT!"
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Keyno said:

RebelE Infantry said:

Keyno said:

RebelE Infantry said:

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VerdeAg said:

Stymied said:

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Keyno said:

gbaby23 said:

VerdeAg said:

The funny thing is everybody against Vivek,Elon right now are asking if Indian talent is so great why dont they use that talent in India; no responses
Not just that, why don't Russia or China import millions of Indians? Don't they want to win the tech war?

Only Westerners are stupid enough to import indians for cheap labor.
Self styled "conservatives" have been brainwashed for 30 years into thinking "free market is conservative".

Russians and Chinese do not think this
This is an underappreciated fact

There is scarcely anything more progressive than the free market. Putting the almighty dollar at the top of your value hierarchy will inherently dismantle traditional values
Wow... The fact that anyone thinks the free market is progressive (i.e. the side that believes in socialism), is flat out looney.

This thread is pretty comical to read. The self described conservatives are looking to lock down the border and put restrictions on who and how companies can hire tech talent. I think a pursuit of tech worker unions is probably the next line of thinking...
Why even hire americans with this logic, every industry should import immigrants who can do the job for pennies on the dollar.
Didn't say that. Companies should hire the employees the provide the most value for the dollar. That's what the free market incentivizes.

It appears many of you on this thread don't want that. I don't disagree that outsourced or imported talent often doesn't provide the best value for the dollar. However, the concept that the government should start making policy to distort the value for pay trade off is not a conservative position. It's a pretty left wing one that leads to government controlled markets, unions (and the inefficiency that comes with them), and all of the other great things that socialism has.


The theoretical purpose for government is to provide for conditions in the nation conducive to the flourishing of its citizens. Conservatives aren't opposed to free enterprise, not hardly. What we ARE opposed to is free market qua free market. The conservative does not see the free market as an end unto itself but rather a means to the end of the wellbeing of heritage Americans.
This was the way we ran our country until the 80s. We need to get over this weird concept that we need unlimited GDP growth at the expense of the national populace


Behold the fruits of the defeat of the paleo conservatism of Buchanan et al.

But now we are back and we are going to win.
We are so back. Trump is gonna do ONLY LEGAL immigration. (No wall tho)


INFINITE IMMIGRATION BUT LEGALLY AND ONLY FROM
ONE COUNTRY!
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Sophon7 said:

The real reason people anre against bringing the best talent from around the world to the U.S. is fear of being outworked, out talented, outsmarted, and undercut in pay for better service.


you are delusional
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Sophon7 said:

The real reason people anre against bringing the best talent from around the world to the U.S. is fear of being outworked, out talented, outsmarted, and undercut in pay for better service.


India lol
Nanomachines son
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Stymied said:

Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.


I'd rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become India 2.0.
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Sophon7 said:

The real reason people anre against bringing the best talent from around the world to the U.S. is fear of being outworked, out talented, outsmarted, and undercut in pay for better service.




No one believes this garbage gaslighting anymore. We all know it's not true and directly counter to our experiences in real life.
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Nanomachines son said:

Stymied said:

Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.


I'd rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become India 2.0.
Oh... didn't realize the only two choices were heavily nationalistic, socialist like control of the labor or the US becoming India.
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In today's global marketplace, the H1B system for tech labor is antiquated. If you want to hire Indians then open an office in India. There's no reason to import them to the US.
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Nanomachines son said:

Stymied said:

Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.


I'd rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become India 2.0.
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RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Thankfully they are hardly having any children.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
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RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
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RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
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I regret I can only give you one BLUE STAR. Great post!

I'm Gipper
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El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
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gbaby23 said:



You just need to be willing to work 100 hours a week.

Trump will fix it.
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gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
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Stymied said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stymied said:

Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.


I'd rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become India 2.0.
Oh... didn't realize the only two choices were heavily nationalistic, socialist like control of the labor or the US becoming India.


Indians are 73% of the H1-Bs. The stats were posted on this thread. When people say they want more of them, this is exactly what they mean.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

gbaby23 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.
Lauding the masculinity of other men is extremely homosexual coded.
Silliest thing i've seen in a while. Gtfoh incel
Calling me silly isn't helping your case! I don't swing that way, man.
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Nanomachines son said:

Stymied said:

Nanomachines son said:

Stymied said:

Good luck with that. The capital in this country won't hold that line.


I'd rather this nation die in nuclear fire than become India 2.0.
Oh... didn't realize the only two choices were heavily nationalistic, socialist like control of the labor or the US becoming India.


Indians are 73% of the H1-Bs. The stats were posted on this thread. When people say they want more of them, this is exactly what they mean.
We are going to need a ton more to turn us into India.

BTW, I'm not a fan of H1-B visas. I'm also not a fan of government policy choosing winners and losers. There are ways to fix the H1-B visa problem without having to heavily protect random tech workers.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

RebelE Infantry said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

VerdeAg said:

I'm 100% on that train. We don't need legal or illegal for at least a decade if not more
We need good Christian immigrant families that will procreate. I don't care if they are from Colombia or Lithuania...we need help if we are to help push the modern godless white liberal to extinction within the next few generations.

THEY ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST. The NUMBER ONE enemy and threat this nation could ever face.

This is one area I think the more "white nationalist" types are completely blind. The white liberal is the absolutely worst form of life to exist on this planet.


Call me crazy or a "white nationalist" or whatever, but I think our main focus should be encouraging actual Americans to start and grow families and fostering conditions conducive thereto.
Good luck with that. Personally, the LAST thing I want is the bad 50% of whites breeding, AT ALL. Rotten fruit. Thankfully they are hardly having any children. Only by the grace of God are they willingly becoming endangered over the next decade+. I do wish white conservatives were having more children, but thankfully they are lapping white liberals.

I have infinitely more respect and admiration for the latino roofers and construction workers busting their ass in the Houston heat. I also have more in common with them...they are socially conservative and super masculine. The white liberal is an absolute abomination and cancer upon this nation.


Don't worry, leftists aren't having kids.

Latin America isn't having kids either by the way. Every Latin American nation is now below the US in replacement rate so replacing us with them isn't an option either.
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The HS where my kids go is ranked in the top 50 in TX. Large 6A w/ almost 4K kids 9-12. It is very academically competitive w/ a majority taking AP classes. It is so competitive that parents game the system and will actively backstab even their own kind.

My daughter moves between 2 groups. Her athlete friend group, she plays a varsity sport, and her nerd friend group. She takes every AP class she can. She is good friends w/ an Indian and she recently attended some sort of coming of age ritual. My daughter was the only white person to attend. There were over 200 in attendance and was held at a fancy outdoor event venue.

Her nerd friend group is not surprisingly mostly Indian. My daughter learned the hard way never to academically collaborate w/ them. They often purposely lied, or misled her. Not surprisingly, my daughter has grown apart from them since she started high school.

There is some progress however. The tennis team regularly advances to state. Football team is the worst in the district. Maybe cause for the past two seasons, the starting QB has a very common Indian surname. Point is, poison American culture has seeped in...
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This post is nails.
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Gator92 said:

The HS where my kids go is ranked in the top 50 in TX. Large 6A w/ almost 4K kids 9-12. It is very academically competitive w/ a majority taking AP classes. It is so competitive that parents game the system and will actively backstab even their own kind.

My daughter moves between 2 groups. Her athlete friend group, she plays a varsity sport, and her nerd friend group. She takes every AP class she can. She is good friends w/ an Indian and she recently attended some sort of coming of age ritual. My daughter was the only white person to attend. There were over 200 in attendance and was held at a fancy outdoor event venue.

Her nerd friend group is not surprisingly mostly Indian. My daughter learned the hard way never to academically collaborate w/ them. They often purposely lied, or misled her. Not surprisingly, my daughter has grown apart from them since she started high school.

There is some progress however. The tennis team regularly advances to state. Football team is the worst in the district. Maybe cause for the past two seasons, the starting QB has a very common Indian surname. Point is, poison American culture has seeped in...
This is common in the Indian culture.
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Gator92 said:

The HS where my kids go is ranked in the top 50 in TX. Large 6A w/ almost 4K kids 9-12. It is very academically competitive w/ a majority taking AP classes. It is so competitive that parents game the system and will actively backstab even their own kind.

My daughter moves between 2 groups. Her athlete friend group, she plays a varsity sport, and her nerd friend group. She takes every AP class she can. She is good friends w/ an Indian and she recently attended some sort of coming of age ritual. My daughter was the only white person to attend. There were over 200 in attendance and was held at a fancy outdoor event venue.

Her nerd friend group is not surprisingly mostly Indian. My daughter learned the hard way never to academically collaborate w/ them. They often purposely lied, or misled her. Not surprisingly, my daughter has grown apart from them since she started high school.

There is some progress however. The tennis team regularly advances to state. Football team is the worst in the district. Maybe cause for the past two seasons, the starting QB has a very common Indian surname. Point is, poison American culture has seeped in...


I learned the academic thing in grad school. Saw it first hand and then saw it in the workplace. From an honesty standpoint, they are worst in the world. I can't even name a single honest Indian I have ever met in my career. It's nothing but constant deflection, blame game, cheating, scamming, and more.

Thank God being physically imposing always makes them back down or else I would have gone insane working with them.
 
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