Matt Gaetz
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No Spin Ag said:J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
There could be video with Gaetz admitting to what he's doing is wrong and he'd still the same people defending him that he does right now.
Ain't tribal politics grande.
Gaetz is not fit to be AG. But based on what I've seen and heard about Congressmen over the decades he fits right in.
A lot of people like myself aren't too concerned about what Gaetz is being accused of by pimps & hookers. It was all consensual. A 17 y/o prostitute? The horror!! She was probably a virgin too, right?
Bribery/corruption in a public official is far worse than paying for sex. Drug use? I'll bet a good chunk of current reps get high routinely.
93MarineHorn said:No Spin Ag said:J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
There could be video with Gaetz admitting to what he's doing is wrong and he'd still the same people defending him that he does right now.
Ain't tribal politics grande.
Gaetz is not fit to be AG. But based on what I've seen and heard about Congressmen over the decades he fits right in.
A lot of people like myself aren't too concerned about what Gaetz is being accused of by pimps & hookers. It was all consensual. A 17 y/o prostitute? The horror!! She was probably a virgin too, right?
Bribery/corruption in a public official is far worse than paying for sex. Drug use? I'll bet a good chunk of current reps get high routinely.
I'm just pleasantly surprised, impressed even, that the right is so accepting of things that folk on their side do when for decades they clutched their pearls when someone on the left did similar.
It's refreshing.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
No Spin Ag said:93MarineHorn said:No Spin Ag said:J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
There could be video with Gaetz admitting to what he's doing is wrong and he'd still the same people defending him that he does right now.
Ain't tribal politics grande.
Gaetz is not fit to be AG. But based on what I've seen and heard about Congressmen over the decades he fits right in.
A lot of people like myself aren't too concerned about what Gaetz is being accused of by pimps & hookers. It was all consensual. A 17 y/o prostitute? The horror!! She was probably a virgin too, right?
Bribery/corruption in a public official is far worse than paying for sex. Drug use? I'll bet a good chunk of current reps get high routinely.
I'm just pleasantly surprised, impressed even, that the right is so accepting of things that folk on their side do when for decades they clutched their pearls when someone on the left did similar.
It's refreshing.
Do you want some kind of prize? Who is surprised there are scumbags in DC. Like I said, if he did something illegal, prosecute him. He has the same rights as dems.
2040huck said:I care because the Republicans keep trying to defend him and I like to point out the hypocrisy You seem to be example number 1samurai_science said:
Who cares, the dude is history...
What hypocrisy?
Do you support him for public office or not?Logos Stick said:2040huck said:I care because the Republicans keep trying to defend him and I like to point out the hypocrisy You seem to be example number 1samurai_science said:
Who cares, the dude is history...
What hypocrisy?
2040huck said:Do you support him for public office or not?Logos Stick said:2040huck said:I care because the Republicans keep trying to defend him and I like to point out the hypocrisy You seem to be example number 1samurai_science said:
Who cares, the dude is history...
What hypocrisy?
Answer my question. What hypocrisy are these Rs engaged in?
WGAF about hypocrisy. People who break the law do not deserve to hold public office, no matter their political affiliation.
Why is this such a difficult thing to practice?
Why is this such a difficult thing to practice?
WHY is anyone still defending this guy?!
We've come a LONG way since the 80's. Most conservatives are much more libertarian than they used to be, myself included.No Spin Ag said:93MarineHorn said:No Spin Ag said:J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
There could be video with Gaetz admitting to what he's doing is wrong and he'd still the same people defending him that he does right now.
Ain't tribal politics grande.
Gaetz is not fit to be AG. But based on what I've seen and heard about Congressmen over the decades he fits right in.
A lot of people like myself aren't too concerned about what Gaetz is being accused of by pimps & hookers. It was all consensual. A 17 y/o prostitute? The horror!! She was probably a virgin too, right?
Bribery/corruption in a public official is far worse than paying for sex. Drug use? I'll bet a good chunk of current reps get high routinely.
I'm just pleasantly surprised, impressed even, that the right is so accepting of things that folk on their side do when for decades they clutched their pearls when someone on the left did similar.
It's refreshing.
we see that one congressmen on the intelligence committee can be ****ing an actual CCP spy and not only stay in office, but keep his committees (until congressional leadership changed) and no one in the media or social media mobs even bat an eye. then we see that another congressman paid an escort service via venmo 6 or 7 years ago for a date and everyone freaks out about how awful it is and how the guy should never hold office ever again. hmmm... i wonder what the difference between those two congressmen is....
Well you've just got to quit bringing facts in here. That's just not fair!
One is guilty of a state crime?oh no said:
we see that one congressmen on the intelligence committee can be ****ing an actual CCP spy and not only stay in office, but keep his committees (until congressional leadership changed) and no one in the media or social media mobs even bat an eye. then we see that another congressman paid an escort service via venmo 6 or 7 years ago for a date and everyone freaks out about how awful it is and how the guy should never hold office ever again. hmmm... i wonder what the difference between those two congressmen is....
93MarineHorn said:We've come a LONG way since the 80's. Most conservatives are much more libertarian than they used to be, myself included.No Spin Ag said:93MarineHorn said:No Spin Ag said:J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
There could be video with Gaetz admitting to what he's doing is wrong and he'd still the same people defending him that he does right now.
Ain't tribal politics grande.
Gaetz is not fit to be AG. But based on what I've seen and heard about Congressmen over the decades he fits right in.
A lot of people like myself aren't too concerned about what Gaetz is being accused of by pimps & hookers. It was all consensual. A 17 y/o prostitute? The horror!! She was probably a virgin too, right?
Bribery/corruption in a public official is far worse than paying for sex. Drug use? I'll bet a good chunk of current reps get high routinely.
I'm just pleasantly surprised, impressed even, that the right is so accepting of things that folk on their side do when for decades they clutched their pearls when someone on the left did similar.
It's refreshing.
Love it.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
I must have missed the charges being filed. When does his prison sentence begin?2040huck said:One is guilty of a state crime?oh no said:
we see that one congressmen on the intelligence committee can be ****ing an actual CCP spy and not only stay in office, but keep his committees (until congressional leadership changed) and no one in the media or social media mobs even bat an eye. then we see that another congressman paid an escort service via venmo 6 or 7 years ago for a date and everyone freaks out about how awful it is and how the guy should never hold office ever again. hmmm... i wonder what the difference between those two congressmen is....
YESlb3 said:Was the ethics report released?2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political career finally over?
"Here are five big takeaways from the House Ethics Committee released today on former Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz's alleged misconduct:
[ol]
Gaetz denies any wrongdoing and says "the people investigating me hated me"
Then why don't they file charges and get him prosecuted?
Rockdoc said:
Then why don't they file charges and get him prosecuted?
A lawyer on the other thread said the Feds most likely notified Florida two years ago when they dropped the case on Gaetz, but Florida couldn't do anything these past two years because the House was investigating. Now that the House is no longer investigating, they will go after him.
I think the guy actually believes that. SMH
Thanks for the summary.74OA said:YESlb3 said:Was the ethics report released?2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political career finally over?
"Here are five big takeaways from the House Ethics Committee released today on former Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz's alleged misconduct:
[ol]Gaetz allegedly paid tens of thousands of dollars to women for sex or drugs on some 20 occasions The committee report found "substantial evidence" that Gaetz paid for sex with a 17-year-old girl Gaetz allegedly broke a handful of laws including engaging in commercial sex The one-time Florida congressman was "uncooperative throughout the Committee's review" and refused to appear for questioning At least one woman interviewed told the committee that the use of drugs at the parties they attended may have "impaired their ability to really know what was going on or fully consent" [/ol]
Gaetz denies any wrongdoing and says "the people investigating me hated me"
I personally think Gaetz is a slimeball but in an age were presidents can penetrate interns with cigars, where the media ignores sitting presidents finger banging staffers against their consent while Senators, where cocaine is found in the White House, and where nearly every A-lister was in Heidi Fleiss' black book (not to mention Epstein's). Drug use and hiring prostitutes won't be disqualifying but is smugness and punchable face might be.
He's is all over x today spouting how he's innocent.
If that's true why did he resign? Why not stay and fight?
In an age where Chinese spies are in bed with congressmen, our sec of state had classified info on private servers and destroyed the evidence, when Giseine Maxwell is in prison yet zero of her clients are being pursued, when our government spied on political opposition, framed political opposition, and tried to imprison political opposition, and our institutions and their Pravda media arm are lying to us and censoring us about health, about Biden's corruption, about Biden's state of mind, etc., were supposed to not care about those things and be really upset that some pimps and hookers said this former congressmen paid them 6 years ago before he was married. Sorry can't seem to give a single F.
RE: some background for why he's not being charged. Maybe someone more qualified can address this further.
713nervy said:
RE: some background for why he's not being charged. Maybe someone more qualified can address this further.
He's not being charged by the House because the House is not a LEA.
The DOJ, which could have charged him, already investigated this case and dropped it two years ago.
It doesn't seem you really understand the process here.
Assumptions, assumptions…
Yes, I understand that much. I meant WHY the DOJ wouldn't move forward with prosecution.
Yes, I understand that much. I meant WHY the DOJ wouldn't move forward with prosecution.
I've got no idea how sleazy he is.
But I have a really good idea how hard they would go after anyone who threatens their gravy train.
But I have a really good idea how hard they would go after anyone who threatens their gravy train.
If the accuser won't come forward to assist in the prosecution, it didn't happen. It's all a lie. How do I know? I've seen it too many times now. I could give a **** what he is "alleged" to have done. The DOJ didn't pursue the case against a Republican. The allegations must really be double-secret-bull*****713nervy said:
RE: some background for why he's not being charged. Maybe someone more qualified can address this further.
J. Walter Weatherman said:91AggieLawyer said:2040huck said:
Does he still have supporters? The ethics report was pretty bad. Is his political carrer finally over?
Pretty bad in what respect? Give us specifics, please. Or, are you basing that on what others are saying, just like the investigation did?
Did you read the report? Multiple witnesses plus plenty of financial evidence make it pretty clear what he was doing. Unless you're saying they falsified his Venmo transactions too.
Wait wait wait wait. So you're saying when [a friend] Venmos someone for "Golf Trip" that doesn't hold up to scrutiny?
Yikes… (if I were my friend)…
713nervy said:
Assumptions, assumptions…
Yes, I understand that much. I meant WHY the DOJ wouldn't move forward with prosecution.
That was public knowledge two years ago.
oh no said:
we see that one congressmen on the intelligence committee can be ****ing an actual CCP spy and not only stay in office, but keep his committees (until congressional leadership changed) and no one in the media or social media mobs even bat an eye. then we see that another congressman paid an escort service via venmo 6 or 7 years ago for a date and everyone freaks out about how awful it is and how the guy should never hold office ever again. hmmm... i wonder what the difference between those two congressmen is....
Be honest - do you actually think he only "paid an escort service for a date 6 or 7 years ago" based on everything thats in the report? Why is there a need to downplay it vs just saying "I know that guy is on our team but he sucks."
I'm not a lawyer.Logos Stick said:Rockdoc said:
Then why don't they file charges and get him prosecuted?
A lawyer on the other thread said the Feds most likely notified Florida two years ago when they dropped the case on Gaetz, but Florida couldn't do anything these past two years because the House was investigating. Now that the House is no longer investigating, they will go after him.
I think the guy actually believes that. SMH
Since I've had some time since then I've actually looked into it. Solicitation has a statute of limitations of up to 3 years. Solicitation of a minor is a felony, but requires the minor to be under 16 in Florida. So you're stuck with statutory rape only, which also has a statute of limitations of 3 years unless you have DNA evidence. They don't.
So yeah, you have a situation here where Gaetz is dead to rights and will get off scot free because of statute of limitations.
Sometimes I feel like I was the only reporter to look into the details of the Gaetz allegations. That's how I learned the accuser is in prison for making the same false sex-with-minors accusation against someone else. https://t.co/0oqOfDlBQb
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) December 23, 2024
Gaetz himself said he "probably partied, womanized, drank and smoked more than [he] should have earlier in life" and then noted that he "often sent funds to women [he] dated."
Come the **** on. Dude was clearly hiring hookers. What the hell else explains him doing drugs with, banging, and then giving money to women?
Thankfully Republicans had enough spine to overrule Trump on this one. Gaetz was an absolutely terrible pick.
Come the **** on. Dude was clearly hiring hookers. What the hell else explains him doing drugs with, banging, and then giving money to women?
Thankfully Republicans had enough spine to overrule Trump on this one. Gaetz was an absolutely terrible pick.
This is to those who are taking certain stances regarding conservative values and views.
Full disclosure I am a staunch fan of Mark Dice whose real name is Mark Shouldice and own several of his books that are a great read for those who are truly conservative. He's no rookie to the conservative movement if fact he's been around for years, way before Trump changed politics. Mark has stood his ground and not changed his beliefs to favor book sales or monetize his own business
But this video about covers my point
Full disclosure I am a staunch fan of Mark Dice whose real name is Mark Shouldice and own several of his books that are a great read for those who are truly conservative. He's no rookie to the conservative movement if fact he's been around for years, way before Trump changed politics. Mark has stood his ground and not changed his beliefs to favor book sales or monetize his own business
But this video about covers my point
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Sex with a minor is perfectly fine and no big deal. It is actually a waste of resources trying to prosecute people who do it. I mean as long as it happens on Little Saint James Island. Right ??!!!
Its legal in 39 states to have sex with a 17 year old. Are you really going to hang your hat on which side of the Florida Georgia line he was on? When the accuser has done jail time for making similar false accusations?EX TEXASEX said:
Sex with a minor is perfectly fine and no big deal. It is actually a waste of resources trying to prosecute people who do it. I mean as long as it happens on Little Saint James Island. Right ??!!!
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