My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

Yukon Cornelius said:

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I've maintained for a couple of decades he's been the worst president ever.

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No, that probably goes to Wilson and LBJ.

Biden has been the most anti-American admin and willfully destructive, but didn't get much legacy law enshrined like those.

Edit -- you were speaking about FDR though.

Depression era FDR policies should be seperated from wartime FDR.

It wash the former Secretary of the Navy FDR persona that was in WW II and he made good decisions just before the war and during. (By the time of Yalta, he is a fading wreck, and the only thing that should be held against him is running in 1944 in the same sense that Biden running in 2024 was also the result of a cover-up. He should not have run then)

On more thought, another thing to hold against him is his tendency to pit commands against one another at the cost of a unified command. This cost more than one setback and nearly caused some disasters.

Secolobo said:

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My grandmother that was 92 when she died always said fdr was the worst president of her lifetime.

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My NewYork grandparents and relatives on Dad's side thought that too, and interestingly enough, it was because saw him as a "communist". Back then it seemed hard to square with the WW II imagery of him, but his policies in the Depression were not much heard about.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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I've maintained for a couple of decades he's been the worst president ever.

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Even with all that not worse than Obama and Biden.

You can't be racist against Asians, in fact, you can still discriminate against them with University enrollment.

That would have more parallel than you may realize. FDR's reasons were not flimsy or dumb like racism. (Bigotry if it existed may have made the decision easy?). It was based on the way Malaya and Indonesia ports and installations were compromised by spy networks and 5th columns before invasion after Pearl and thru Jan/Feb. It didn't really much exist west east of Hawaii, but FDR didn't know that for sure.

Japanese Americans in Hawaii aided a downed Japanese Airman from the Pearl Harbor attack.

Had that not happened, I doubt the massive internment would have happened.

The biggest disgrace is that the camps continued past June 1942, after the Battle of Midway ended any risk of a Japanese invasion of the Mainland.

Correct. But it wasn't the only thing. FDR had received extensive reports about the 5th column activity from Churchill and the Dutch. It was a modus-operandi and the flyer story may have just been more the point he used to sell it. He wanted to do it for Churchill's reasons.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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I've maintained for a couple of decades he's been the worst president ever.

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He's right there with Woodrow Wilson and LBJ. All democrats and extremely damaging. Add in Obama as well.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Not sure about racist. Did he do that with all Asians or just specifically the ones from a country who attacked us and may have had spies or attackers here?

Not condoning it, just not sure if his motives were racism.

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If we rounded up Muslims after 911 and locked them up in camps while we were in Afghanistan and Iraq would you consider that racist?

Yukon Cornelius said:

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I've maintained for a couple of decades he's been the worst president ever.

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LBJ is the worst ever and it's not even close…

The puppet masters putting words in Bidens mouth would be second, since he is not really self aware most of the time.

Then Obama, Carter, and LBJ in no particular order.

The democrats have given us the federal reserve, social security, welfare, and the affordable care act. All are garbage. Wilson, FDR, LBJ and Obama.

BMCaginLTX said:

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doubledog said:

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My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

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My children will have to live through the nightmare that his policies created. Will yours?

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I lived through it... I assume you did too.

Kvetch said:

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doubledog said:

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My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

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Sounds like your parents were big government, nanny state Democrats.

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No they were dirt poor farmers, brought low by a Great Depression. FDRs policies brought their families some relief when it was needed. No one on this board has any idea of what real suffering is like and that is the sad part.

doubledog said:

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My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

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Just because they thought that doesn't mean he wasn't a garbage president. He can rot in hell for giving us the scam, that is, social security.

doubledog said:

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My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

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My grandparents were all old school Texas "yellow dog" democrats and raised my parents through the Great Depression. They spoke highly of FDR. I doubt my dad or mom voted for a democrat any time after the early 60s.

titan said:

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Secolobo said:

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My grandmother that was 92 when she died always said fdr was the worst president of her lifetime.

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My NewYork grandparents and relatives on Dad's side thought that too, and interestingly enough, it was because saw him as a "communist". Back then it seemed hard to square with the WW II imagery of him, but his policies in the Depression were not much heard about.

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She always said that due to fdr's policies, the depression lasted twice as long as it should have.

Secolobo said:

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titan said:

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Secolobo said:

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My grandmother that was 92 when she died always said fdr was the worst president of her lifetime.

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My NewYork grandparents and relatives on Dad's side thought that too, and interestingly enough, it was because saw him as a "communist". Back then it seemed hard to square with the WW II imagery of him, but his policies in the Depression were not much heard about.

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She always said that due to fdr's policies, the depression lasted twice as long as it should have.

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She was correct.

The only thing that brought us out of the depression was the Second World War.

https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurvey2021/?page=overall

doubledog said:

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My parents thought that FDR was one of the greatest presidents, and they lived through the Great Depression, Dust Bowl and WWII. Did any of you?

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Unfortunately, your parents didn't have time to study economics. Otherwise they would have realized that FDR was the reason the economy sucked so bad.

Abe Lincoln
Woodrow Wilson
FDR

Top 3 worst

Secolobo said:

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titan said:

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Secolobo said:

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My grandmother that was 92 when she died always said fdr was the worst president of her lifetime.

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My NewYork grandparents and relatives on Dad's side thought that too, and interestingly enough, it was because saw him as a "communist". Back then it seemed hard to square with the WW II imagery of him, but his policies in the Depression were not much heard about.

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She always said that due to fdr's policies, the depression lasted twice as long as it should have.

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Your Grandma sounds like she was a a smart woman.

titan said:

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Secolobo said:

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My grandmother that was 92 when she died always said fdr was the worst president of her lifetime.

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My NewYork grandparents and relatives on Dad's side thought that too, and interestingly enough, it was because saw him as a "communist". Back then it seemed hard to square with the WW II imagery of him, but his policies in the Depression were not much heard about.

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FDR was 100% a communist sympathizer. He probably was one himself.