Peter Thiel reveals how much oligarchs fear the people

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Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/12/no_author/peter-thiel-reveals-how-scared-oligarchs-are-of-the-people/
That is a silly article about someone who has it out for capitalism.

Yes Peter Thiel is extremely wealthy, but his investment in Palantir is likely 5% of his net worth, tops. The author wouldn't be attacking him if Thiel wasn't the money behind JD Vance and other republicans.

Peter Thiel is extremely bright, articulate, but he studders in all of his interviews. When he doesn't answer a question, he likely doesn't have anything extra to add. He likes being provocative.

Author is knowingly misguiding his readers.
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His company Palantir is a CIA-backed surveillance and data mining tech company with intimate ties to both the US intelligence cartel and to Israel, playing a crucial role in both the US empire's sprawling surveillance network and Israeli atrocities against Palestinians.
Anyone who cries about 'atrocities' committed against the Philistines is a ****ing idiot and needs to be ignored.
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MavsAg said:

Has this person ever heard Thiel speak before? He pauses and stutters all the time.
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So, when GM and Chrysler were in Bankruptcy Court in 2009'ish... and Obama, then President of the US, took those two companies over and gifted them to the UAW and to Fiat... that's Capitalism?!

When Obama took over the Student Loan program and Federalized it under the Gov't... that's Capitalism?!

When Warren Buffett's BH owns BNSF Rail and provides oil transport from Canada and the US Gov't kills the Keystone Pipeline which would transition the transport away from BNSF to a pipeline... that's Free Enterprise Capitalism?!

Under Jack Welch... GE lobbied the US Govt to EOL incandescent light bulbs in favor of CFL that contained mercury because GE had the patent on such technology. Anyone that wanted to make light bulbs in the US had to license the CFL technology from GE... and on the package was a Hazmat warning that stated if the light bulb broke, you had to hire Hazmat specialists to clean up the mess... because the Gov't was forcing people to buy light bulbs with mercury.

The Gov't Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (JEDI) program was a huge Cloud Computing program that would award a HUGE Gov't contract and it was fought over by AWS, Microsoft, and Google, among others.


ETA Link and change CFT to CFL:
https://www.lion.com/lion-news/april-2012/are-compact-fluorescent-light-bulbs-hazardous-waste

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At the 1:07 mark of your 1st video... those red roofed buildings are rows of housing. When I went to Beijing, one of the most disheartening things I felt was just how insignificant you are in China. At 1.6B people, that's 80 cities of 20M people... 20M people like Beijing.

If you broke the population into equal sized cities of 20M people... there would be 80 NYCs.

Row after row of housing that created these population centers where in themselves you are nothing. Like trees in a forest.
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aTmAg said:

DallasAg 94 said:

Jack Welch as an example... was a CEO Oligarch.

Change my mind.
Just because he was CEO of GE? What did he do that was "oligarch-esq"?
If you don't know... it might be why you believe what you believe.

Most people view Jack Welch as this great CEO who built GE to be an example of how to run a company. From Immelt to Zafarafski... their failures weren't that they couldn't be great CEOs... it was they followed the Welch model but weren't able to be Oligarchs and were replaced with other Oligarchs.

If Welch were a decent... sufficient CEO... either Immelt or Zafarafski would have succeeded. If Welch were a great CEO... both would have been successful. Both failed which is an indictment on Welch.

From airplane engines to other areas, Welch made GE huge and great because of Gov't money... not because they made products people chose over others and not because he was great at running a company.
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DallasAg 94 said:

At the 1:07 mark of your 1st video... those red roofed buildings are rows of housing. When I went to Beijing, one of the most disheartening things I felt was just how insignificant you are in China. At 1.6B people, that's 80 cities of 20M people... 20M people like Beijing.

If you broke the population into equal sized cities of 20M people... there would be 80 NYCs.

Row after row of housing that created these population centers where in themselves you are nothing. Like trees in a forest.
Maybe a bit too bleak and harsh a take? There was a time when every adobe building or teepee will look alike or close to it. What makes people individual is their own personalities and aspirations. As long as the govt is not mandating that "sameness" inside on decoration, there remains soul. Think of office cubicles -- physically identical but depending on what is put up by the occupant, still separate.

Having very distinct home dwellings and designs is a luxury sometimes just not there. Maybe not even available.
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It was less about the same housing. Pointing out the housing was the illustration of the enormity of what I saw.

It was the fact I was 1 person among 20M people in a small concentrated area... and that China had the equivalent of 80 more of those.

It is one thing to go to NYC and think "Wow... 20M people. This is the largest city in the US." It is another to see "I am 1 of 20M people... and even though I may feel small... there are <the equivalency of> 80 more of these cities in this country."

The uniformity of housing, IMO, was more about the anonymity of being than it was insignificance.
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DallasAg 94 said:

Jack Welch as an example... was a CEO Oligarch.

Change my mind.
Saint Jack. Now that is a name I have not heard in a long time. A long time.
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Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.
Can I refer to them as POS tyrants? Virtually all of them wanted people like me and my family to suffer immensely for not getting the experimental "vaccine" and was more than happy to do the Biden administration's bidding. On top of that, they almost all push the woke/DEI crap.

I am talking about CEO's of big corporations...F em all, I'll call them much worse than "oligarch".
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I am going to guess he would not have any problem with you calling them something factual like POS tyrants!

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aTmAg said:

fletch01 said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.


Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.
Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?
I think they should arrest most of them. The ones that were in charge and enforcing vaccine mandates on behalf of the evil democrat party a few yrs ago. I don't wish death on them, but I do not wish anything good on such people, nor the vast majority of CEO's who sit back and let their companies push the cul;turally toxic woke/DEI sh**.

We get it, you love CEO's and are fine with this type of oppressive and tyrannical behavior.

I like strong leaders who stand up for what is good.

We are not the same.
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DallasAg 94 said:

aTmAg said:

DallasAg 94 said:

Jack Welch as an example... was a CEO Oligarch.

Change my mind.
Just because he was CEO of GE? What did he do that was "oligarch-esq"?
If you don't know... it might be why you believe what you believe.

Most people view Jack Welch as this great CEO who built GE to be an example of how to run a company. From Immelt to Zafarafski... their failures weren't that they couldn't be great CEOs... it was they followed the Welch model but weren't able to be Oligarchs and were replaced with other Oligarchs.

If Welch were a decent... sufficient CEO... either Immelt or Zafarafski would have succeeded. If Welch were a great CEO... both would have been successful. Both failed which is an indictment on Welch.

From airplane engines to other areas, Welch made GE huge and great because of Gov't money... not because they made products people chose over others and not because he was great at running a company.
So because they made airplane engines that government buys for their airplanes, that makes Welch a Oligarch? What about the CEO of Office Max? They sell lots of pens and notepads to the government too. Is he an "oligarch" too?
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What part of his post here makes you think he is OK with a vaccine mandate from the CEOs?


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El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.
Can I refer to them as POS tyrants? Virtually all of them wanted people like me and my family to suffer immensely for not getting the experimental "vaccine" and was more than happy to do the Biden administration's bidding. On top of that, they almost all push the woke/DEI crap.

I am talking about CEO's of big corporations...F em all, I'll call them much worse than "oligarch".
You can refer to them whatever you want. You will just be wrong most of the time and make yourself look like a leftist idiot.

Do you recognize that the government is to blame for 99% of the crap you complain about? That companies are being strongarmed into adopting many of these policies?
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El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

fletch01 said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.


Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.
Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?
I think they should arrest most of them. The ones that were in charge and enforcing vaccine mandates on behalf of the evil democrat party a few yrs ago. I don't wish death on them, but I do not wish anything good on such people, nor the vast majority of CEO's who sit back and let their companies push the cul;turally toxic woke/DEI sh**.

We get it, you love CEO's and are fine with this type of oppressive and tyrannical behavior.

I like strong leaders who stand up for what is good.

We are not the same.
Arrested for what crime? You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Im Gipper said:

What part of his post here makes you think he is OK with a vaccine mandate from the CEOs?


He is just white knighting his ass off over whether they are "oligarch's" or not. They are a damned extension of the democrat party and gladly do their bidding. They have proven this.



I don't know whether they fit the specific historical definition...but they are definitely in the "oligarch" ballpark.
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aTmAg said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

fletch01 said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.


Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.
Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?
I think they should arrest most of them. The ones that were in charge and enforcing vaccine mandates on behalf of the evil democrat party a few yrs ago. I don't wish death on them, but I do not wish anything good on such people, nor the vast majority of CEO's who sit back and let their companies push the cul;turally toxic woke/DEI sh**.

We get it, you love CEO's and are fine with this type of oppressive and tyrannical behavior.

I like strong leaders who stand up for what is good.

We are not the same.
Arrested for what crime? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Ok, can't arrest them for carrying out evil diabolical measures of the state...that just leaves vigilante justice then. I do not support murder, but I would gladly support violent assault of any CEO who wanted to hurt innocent families bc they wanted to make their own medical decisions...this would include virtually all of them.

If I were a truly benevolent dictator, I would lock them all up and throw away the key to set an example for future CEO's. Don't torture already struggling families who just want medical freedom and don't want to pump experimental toxins into their bodies.

PS - In a just world, it would be illegal to fire people for not getting experimental vaccines,along with other personal medical decisions. Not really arguing that it IS illegal...although super evil and downright oppressive. The opposite of "moral". And you goaltend for these money and power worshiping psychopaths.
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aTmAg said:


Thiel made his money by making and investing in products that lots of other people were happy to pay for.


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aTmAg said:

Not Coach Jimbo said:

I persobally have no problem with CEOs. I do have a problem though with insurance companies (in multiple industries).

That said, I 100% am against murder, but I'm also a bit surprised this isn't a bigger problem.
Insurance companies have about a 3%-4% margin. They aren't "getting rich by denying claims" or any of that nonsense. If they paid EVERY claim for every unnecessary test and procedure that hospitals ask for, then they would go bankrupt.

They aren't the problem. The government is the problem.


Consumers are the problem. Health insurance stopped being insurance a long time ago and turned into health payment plan because of the demand created by consumers as a part of their employer compensation. That's why so many confuse health insurance with health care.

Make it a taxable benefit and push people to catastrophic coverage plans with HSA's and see how both markets correct.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Im Gipper said:

What part of his post here makes you think he is OK with a vaccine mandate from the CEOs?


He is just white knighting his ass off over whether they are "oligarch's" or not. They are a damned extension of the democrat party and gladly do their bidding. They have proven this.



I don't know whether they fit the specific historical definition...but they are definitely in the "oligarch" ballpark.
Not even in the same sport. Russian oligarchs paid off Putin by the billions to be handed control of entire industries.

Jeff Bezos wasn't handed Amazon by the government. He built that from the ground up. Same for Musk, Walton, etc.

To equate the two is ridiculous.
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lb3 said:

The end of the OPs article had a link to the super wealthy wanting to acquire robotic weapon systems for their own defense. If they want to protect themselves from the masses, giving rogue hackers a lethal attack vector may not be in their best interests.
The reason the very rich want robotic weapons is partially because they can't solve the security team mutiny problem. If its your job to protect a defenseless billionaire in an isolated end of the world bunker - that security team can easily over throw you.
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aTmAg said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Im Gipper said:

What part of his post here makes you think he is OK with a vaccine mandate from the CEOs?


He is just white knighting his ass off over whether they are "oligarch's" or not. They are a damned extension of the democrat party and gladly do their bidding. They have proven this.



I don't know whether they fit the specific historical definition...but they are definitely in the "oligarch" ballpark.
Not even in the same sport. Russian oligarchs paid off Putin by the billions to be handed control of entire industries.

Jeff Bezos wasn't handed Amazon by the government. He built that from the ground up. Same for Musk, Walton, etc.

To equate the two is ridiculous.
Most CEO's act as some sort of blend of "oligarch" imo. I guess I don't know specifically what you call a CEO that acts as an enforcing extension of the government and carries out their bidding...and often benefits greatly from the government officials, and vice versa? "Evil government stooges"? Does that work for you?

Forget "oligarchs"..."evil government stooges"...my apologies...now that we are on the same page, carry on.
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This. A lot of posters don't seem to understand that Russian oligarchs were basically the inner party or government officials who took control of industries or were given state companies for pennies on the dollar. A lot of the comparisons here are apples and oranges. There's going to be a relationship between government and business in any model. Always has been, always will be, but to pretend we have "oligarchs" similar to those on Russia and China is absurd.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Im Gipper said:

What part of his post here makes you think he is OK with a vaccine mandate from the CEOs?


He is just white knighting his ass off over whether they are "oligarch's" or not. They are a damned extension of the democrat party and gladly do their bidding. They have proven this.



I don't know whether they fit the specific historical definition...but they are definitely in the "oligarch" ballpark.


Playing word games. Depends on what the meaning of the word "is," is.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

This. A lot of posters don't seem to understand that Russian oligarchs were basically the inner party or government officials who took control of industries or were given state companies for pennies on the dollar. A lot of the comparisons here are apples and oranges. There's going to be a relationship between government and business in any model. Always has been, always will be, but to pretend we have "oligarchs" similar to those on Russia and China is absurd.
See my post directly above. I think this is something all Texaggers can agree on...left and right. Let's ditch the word "oligarch"...we were using it too loosely based on some parallels here and there, but they were a bit flimsy.

I think we can all agree on "Tyrannical pieces of sh**" and/or "evil government stooges".

Why not both? /gif
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ABATTBQ11 said:

aTmAg said:

Not Coach Jimbo said:

I persobally have no problem with CEOs. I do have a problem though with insurance companies (in multiple industries).

That said, I 100% am against murder, but I'm also a bit surprised this isn't a bigger problem.
Insurance companies have about a 3%-4% margin. They aren't "getting rich by denying claims" or any of that nonsense. If they paid EVERY claim for every unnecessary test and procedure that hospitals ask for, then they would go bankrupt.

They aren't the problem. The government is the problem.


Consumers are the problem. Health insurance stopped being insurance a long time ago and turned into health payment plan because of the demand created by consumers as a part of their employer compensation. That's why so many confuse health insurance with health care.

Make it a taxable benefit and push people to catastrophic coverage plans with HSA's and see how both markets correct.


The problem did not originate with consumers. Put the blame where it belongs- corporations and the government.

One of the reasons this started is that corporations in the 60's and 70's discovered subsidizing health insurance for employees was a way for them to "increase overall compensation" without being taxed on the compensation the same way that direct wages were.

Don't blame this entirely on consumers. Once again this issue arose because a company was given a loophole by the government. Corporations exploited it when it was offered and then consumers did what they do.... any big group will take an exploit to its logical conclusion. You see this in all social experiments and video games. Everyone wants to "find and exploit the cheat"

If company insurance benefits were taxable and all the markets were opened up so people could choose what they wanted, then employees would demand the money instead of the insurance benefits, use the market to pick their insurance and take it from there.

It would allow better risk pools for insurance companies and help them increase profitability in a legit way.

The Way that everything is fragmented, makes it more difficult for insurance to create larger risk pools, charge people according to their level of risk, and mitigate their exposure.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

fletch01 said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.


Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.
Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?
I think they should arrest most of them. The ones that were in charge and enforcing vaccine mandates on behalf of the evil democrat party a few yrs ago. I don't wish death on them, but I do not wish anything good on such people, nor the vast majority of CEO's who sit back and let their companies push the cul;turally toxic woke/DEI sh**.

We get it, you love CEO's and are fine with this type of oppressive and tyrannical behavior.

I like strong leaders who stand up for what is good.

We are not the same.
Arrested for what crime? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Ok, can't arrest them for carrying out evil diabolical measures of the state...that just leaves vigilante justice then. I do not support murder, but I would gladly support violent assault of any CEO who wanted to hurt innocent families bc they wanted to make their own medical decisions...this would include virtually all of them.

If I were a truly benevolent dictator, I would lock them all up and throw away the key to set an example for future CEO's. Don't torture already struggling families who just want medical freedom and don't want to pump experimental toxins into their bodies.

PS - In a just world, it would be illegal to fire people for not getting experimental vaccines,along with other personal medical decisions. Not really arguing that it IS illegal...although super evil and downright oppressive. The opposite of "moral". And you goaltend for these money and power worshiping psychopaths.
You keep exposing yourself as a fool with every post.

If a mobster threatens to kill your family if you don't pay them their "protection fee", do you "take a stand"? No? Would that mean you "helping them carry out their evil diabolical measures" by paying them to leave your family alone? Are you the a-hole? NO. THEY are the a-holes. They are the ones to blame, and they are the ones who should go to jail.

Likewise, these CEOs have their employees, customers, and shareholders to worry about. If Biden says "we will punish your company to the tune of billions of dollars if you don't vaccinate", then refusing would screw over all of those people. Biden is the a-hole in this situation. Not CEOs who are submitting to strongarming to save their companies.

Now what about CEO of Google or Target? I DO think they are a holes. But I take it on a case by case basis. I don't blindly accuse all CEOs of evil, since I'm not a moron.
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d-burg said:

aTmAg said:


Thiel made his money by making and investing in products that lots of other people were happy to pay for.



So then explain how he supposedly got his "corrupt" money?
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aTmAg said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

aTmAg said:

fletch01 said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.


Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.
Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?
I think they should arrest most of them. The ones that were in charge and enforcing vaccine mandates on behalf of the evil democrat party a few yrs ago. I don't wish death on them, but I do not wish anything good on such people, nor the vast majority of CEO's who sit back and let their companies push the cul;turally toxic woke/DEI sh**.

We get it, you love CEO's and are fine with this type of oppressive and tyrannical behavior.

I like strong leaders who stand up for what is good.

We are not the same.
Arrested for what crime? You have no idea what you are talking about.
Ok, can't arrest them for carrying out evil diabolical measures of the state...that just leaves vigilante justice then. I do not support murder, but I would gladly support violent assault of any CEO who wanted to hurt innocent families bc they wanted to make their own medical decisions...this would include virtually all of them.

If I were a truly benevolent dictator, I would lock them all up and throw away the key to set an example for future CEO's. Don't torture already struggling families who just want medical freedom and don't want to pump experimental toxins into their bodies.

PS - In a just world, it would be illegal to fire people for not getting experimental vaccines,along with other personal medical decisions. Not really arguing that it IS illegal...although super evil and downright oppressive. The opposite of "moral". And you goaltend for these money and power worshiping psychopaths.
You keep exposing yourself as a fool with every post.

If a mobster threatens to kill your family if you don't pay them their "protection fee", do you "take a stand"? No? Would that mean you "helping them carry out their evil diabolical measures" by paying them to leave your family alone? Are you the a-hole? NO. THEY are the a-holes. They are the ones to blame, and they are the ones who should go to jail.

Likewise, these CEOs have their employees, customers, and shareholders to worry about. If Biden says "we will punish your company to the tune of billions of dollars if you don't vaccinate", then refusing would screw over all of those people. Biden is the a-hole in this situation. Not CEOs who are submitting to strongarming to save their companies.

Now what about CEO of Google or Target? I DO think they are a holes. But I take it on a case by case basis. I don't blindly accuse all CEOs of evil, since I'm not a moron.

You would address me much differently in person, I can 100% guaranty that lol. "Moron"? "Fool"? LOL shine my shoes, and then shovel my dog's sh**. You are the only person I can think of that is universally despised on the Entertainment board...you're always the "well ackshually" guy...on some sort of spectrum or something.

Can't believe you are goaltending for these maggots who were totally fine with this level of unprecedented tyranny. Did ONE of them speak up? You don't think a few fortune 500 CEO's could have gotten together and drawn a line in the sand or at least tried to push back on behalf of those who deserved it most? They are COWARDS. Virtually all of them. Worth tens of millions, but personally terrified to do the right thing or rock the boat in any way, because they need tens of millions more $$$.

Their willingness to just go along with any Biden decree issued from on high was disgusting and shameful.
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I stated this on the first page. Objectively illegal three letter agency programs.
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one MEEN Ag said:

lb3 said:

The end of the OPs article had a link to the super wealthy wanting to acquire robotic weapon systems for their own defense. If they want to protect themselves from the masses, giving rogue hackers a lethal attack vector may not be in their best interests.
The reason the very rich want robotic weapons is partially because they can't solve the security team mutiny problem. If its your job to protect a defenseless billionaire in an isolated end of the world bunker - that security team can easily over throw you.

To earn loyalty they have to give their team a better quality of life than they could achieve outside of their benevolence. As long as the billionaire is running their corporate empire and earning, they're safe because their team has an interest in preserving the status quo. But as soon as the wealth accumulation stops, it turns into a zero sum game and the billionaires will never be able to trust their security teams to not take them out and install themselves as king of the bunker.
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Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.
Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.
You proved my point. You should be ignored.


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Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.
This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.


The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.
You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/
A government CONTRACT is pay for service. They require multiple bidders and an transparent process. That is NOTHING like how the Russian oligarchs worked.
There was absolutely NOTHING transparent about this, and let me know who the "multiple bidders" were. There's a reason the person who reported these illegal government activities to the American people has been living in exile since 2013.
Lockheed Martin builds F-35s. Does that mean the CEO of Lockheed Martin would be to blame if Biden decided to use F-35s to bomb Florida?
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aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.
Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.
You proved my point. You should be ignored.


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Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.
This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.


The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.
You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/
A government CONTRACT is pay for service. They require multiple bidders and an transparent process. That is NOTHING like how the Russian oligarchs worked.
There was absolutely NOTHING transparent about this, and let me know who the "multiple bidders" were. There's a reason the person who reported these illegal government activities to the American people has been living in exile since 2013.
Lockheed Martin builds F-35s. Does that mean the CEO of Lockheed Martin would be to blame if Biden decided to use F-35s to bomb Florida?


I think you are being intentionally obtuse at this point. No this does not equate to building F-35s…….The NSA surveillance program, utilizing Theil's technology was ruled unlawful by the US Court of Appeals. ILLEGAL

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-court-mass-surveillance-program-exposed-by-snowden-was-illegal-idUSKBN25T3CJ/
El Gallo Blanco
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Gig em G said:

aTmAg said:

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

aTmAg said:

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.
Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.
You proved my point. You should be ignored.


Quote:

Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.
This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.


The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.
You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/
A government CONTRACT is pay for service. They require multiple bidders and an transparent process. That is NOTHING like how the Russian oligarchs worked.
There was absolutely NOTHING transparent about this, and let me know who the "multiple bidders" were. There's a reason the person who reported these illegal government activities to the American people has been living in exile since 2013.
Lockheed Martin builds F-35s. Does that mean the CEO of Lockheed Martin would be to blame if Biden decided to use F-35s to bomb Florida?


I think you are being intentionally obtuse at this point. No this does not equate to building F-35s…….The NSA surveillance program, utilizing Theil's technology was ruled unlawful by the US Court of Appeals. ILLEGAL

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-court-mass-surveillance-program-exposed-by-snowden-was-illegal-idUSKBN25T3CJ/

Yeah, he's talking about the mafia and sh** and calling others stupid for drawing parallels to oligarchs and daring to criticize cowardly CEO's for willingly carrying out tyrannical measures against decent honest Americans. Thinkin maybe he needs to take his meds. He is often times a solid poster. Off the rails on this thread though with the insults and namecalling. Very sensitive.
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