https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/12/no_author/peter-thiel-reveals-how-scared-oligarchs-are-of-the-people/

Has this person ever heard Thiel speak before? He pauses and stutters all the time.

When I read the title, I immediately thought about the Deep State Political Oligarchy's complete overreaction to the protest on January 6th. Another related angle.

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

The end of the OPs article had a link to the super wealthy wanting to acquire robotic weapon systems for their own defense. If they want to protect themselves from the masses, giving rogue hackers a lethal attack vector may not be in their best interests.

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Bro do you work for the MSM? Only rich Russians are oligarchs!!!1!!

Quote:

---

The way he stumbled and stuttered when trying to answer the question gives a lot of insight into how terrified such people are of the public turning against them one day.

---

Peter always talks like that in unscripted conversation. Lots of stutters and struggles to string right words together. It seems like it's all organized in his head, but there is a misfire or glitch getting it out verbally.

Peter Thiel is an idiot. He has been spouting off crazy stuff for years.... like crazy crazy. He is the boy that cried wolf, and it is because he is super rich and disconnected from reality.

Plutocrats, oligarchs! Damn, I feel like I'm back in 8th grade history. What's next? Another Tea Pot Dome scandal? What's happening in Tammany Hall?

Not Coach Jimbo said:

---

I persobally have no problem with CEOs. I do have a problem though with insurance companies (in multiple industries).

That said, I 100% am against murder, but I'm also a bit surprised this isn't a bigger problem.

---

Insurance companies have about a 3%-4% margin. They aren't "getting rich by denying claims" or any of that nonsense. If they paid EVERY claim for every unnecessary test and procedure that hospitals ask for, then they would go bankrupt.

They aren't the problem. The government is the problem.

Ags4DaWin said:

---

This.

I have several family members who have workked n various parts of the insurance industry from underwriting to adjusting to loss control consulting.

And all have left because they were sickened by the very nature of the industry.

The Way the companies are set up the goals are to make customers think they are buying one product and then when a customer tries to make a claim, find a way to deny the claim.

It's basically a bait and switch business model.

One of the ONLY industries where a company is more profitable the more they can find ways to serve their customers worse....it's the exact opposite of the way good businesses run.

---

Perfectly sums up health insurance and "surprise billing" which is really a surprise lack of coverage.

LOYAL AG said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

We aren't a capitalist society so let's start there. We're a fascist nation where government serves corporate interests above those of the people. How is such a society not an oligarchy and if it is then who are the oligarchs if not the CEO of said corporations?

---

The oligarchs in Russia were granted their money and positions by corrupt government officials.

Thiel made his money by making and investing in products that lots of other people were happy to pay for. To pretend he is anything like Vladimir Lisin is ridiculous.

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

---

Quote:

---

Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.

---

This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.

---

Total BS. Leftist propagandists have coopted the term to paint honest wealthy people in as negative light as possible. And you fell for it. It's the modern "robber baron" term which was equally as deceptive. Rockefeller didn't rob anybody. He made his money through free and voluntary exchange and made society vastly better than he found it.

The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.

This thread does a great job of showing who is a capitalist conservative vs who is just a populist. It should be stickied at the top of the F16 page for future reference.

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.

aTmAg said:

---

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

---

Quote:

---

Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.

---

This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.

---

The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.

---

You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/12/no_author/peter-thiel-reveals-how-scared-oligarchs-are-of-the-people/

---

Theres more of the author filling in the blanks and making inferences than about anything Thiel actually said. It's completely biased in a way to invent a narrative.

Also the whole thread is noncompliant without some commentary in the OP to go with the link.

fletch01 said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Y'all need to wake up. Who started setting up a massive amount of corporations? The nazis. Look up what Hitler's crew did in setting up corporations before escaping to South America.

---

Let me guess. you think government should cap CEO salaries? Give more "power to the people"? Make the "workers own the means of production"?

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

---

Quote:

---

Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.

---

This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.

---

The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.

---

You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/

---

A government CONTRACT is pay for service. They require multiple bidders and an transparent process. That is NOTHING like how the Russian oligarchs worked.

aTmAg said:

---

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

---

I think calling them an oligarch is healthy for our republic / democracy. It keeps the polity vigilant.

aTmAg said:

---

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Gig em G said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

Thiel is an oligarch. The CEOs are part of the service class for people like him.

---

You proved my point. You should be ignored.

---

Quote:

---

Most commonly the term "oligarch" refers to an individual who derives political power from their extreme wealth or significant business interests.

---

This definition fits Peter Thiel quite well. Respectfully I think you should reconsider "oligarchs" existing outside of Russia or China.

---

The original oligarchs in Russia were granted private ownership of state industries. The were granted them by being pals with politicians in power. In exchange, they paid off those politicians. That is why Putin is estimated to be worth $200B despite only having government jobs. It's corrupt to it's CORE.

To call American entrepreneurs like Musk and Thiel, who made their money by voluntary exchange, an "oligarch" is trying to deceptively equate them with the OG oligarchs in Russia. The two are nothing alike.

---

You need to do more research on what much of Thiel's business interests actually are.

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/320592-palantir-helped-support-nsa-spy-program-xkeyscore-report/

---

A government CONTRACT is pay for service. They require multiple bidders and an transparent process. That is NOTHING like how the Russian oligarchs worked.

---

There was absolutely NOTHING transparent about this, and let me know who the "multiple bidders" were. There's a reason the person who reported these illegal government activities to the American people has been living in exile since 2013.

LOYAL AG said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

LOYAL AG said:

---

aTmAg said:

---

Anybody who refers to a CEO in a capitalist society as an "oligarch" is an idiot and should be ignored as such.

---

We aren't a capitalist society so let's start there. We're a fascist nation where government serves corporate interests above those of the people. How is such a society not an oligarchy and if it is then who are the oligarchs if not the CEO of said corporations?

---

The oligarchs in Russia were granted their money and positions by corrupt government officials.

Thiel made his money by making and investing in products that lots of other people were happy to pay for. To pretend he is anything like Vladimir Lisin is ridiculous.

---

The oligarchs in the U.S. are protected by corrupt government officials. Not sure what point you are trying to make. Pretty much every huge corporation in America got its start making and investing in products people were happy to pay for. Then they figured out they could pay corrupt politicians to implement government regulations designed to protect their lofty positions at which point they stoped trying to compete in a capitalist society and started buying protection from competition and at THAT point they became oligarchs.

---

Yeah, that is horse crap. Who is protecting Elon Musk? He was having every type of lawfare thrown at him from all directions.


Regarding regulatory capture, that is government's fault. They are holding corporations hostage unless those corporations play ball and then those companies practically take the agency over to protect themselves. Then of course, they start limiting competition and whatnot. It's government jobs to NOT start that ball rolling.

To make this OP related at least, this is the solution that the likes of Peter Thiel are actively trying to implement here, due to fear of the ordinary American citizen. And I'm sadly convinced a good portion of F16 will be okay with it.

China's all-seeing skynet now has more than 700 million CCTV cameras (half of the world total), and it's real-time spying on all of its 1.4 billion citizens to give them a personal social credit score, based on how they behave.

Social Credit System means Ultimate Control!! https://t.co/0ICT5dzmmS pic.twitter.com/1qFKr0RnTw

— Songpinganq (@songpinganq) April 16, 2023

Insurance companies made a deal with the Obama administration for what amounts to guaranteed business at a certain level in return for conforming to a high level of regulation such that they are all but proxies for a vast government coordinated health care system. It is complex, lacks market efficiency, and is often a black box to its customers and participants who never are sure what they are paying for and what their actual choices are.

Jack Welch as an example... was a CEO Oligarch.

Change my mind.

General Jack D. Ripper said:

---

Plutocrats, oligarchs! Damn, I feel like I'm back in 8th grade history. What's next? Another Tea Pot Dome scandal? What's happening in Tammany Hall?

---

You are actually on the right track. We certainly have the conflict sowing and lying "yellow journalism" of that age. In many ways indeed, we have become a fiscal oligarchy. But its not the CEOs of standard corporations. Its more centered in the political-press class and their donor class. Another similarity is how the law systems are steered and structured to favor the upper tier. The present is remarkably like the last decades of the 19th and early 20th.

For all the ranting about them, there is more parallel to the Russian oligarchy (which is not communist but a gangster-state) than realized now. Especially with the DNC/MSM bond; though the uniparty in general operates that way. However, also like that prior age you recall --- the whole system is not yet corrupt, and can and did vote it out gradually.

DallasAg 94 said:

---

Jack Welch as an example... was a CEO Oligarch.

Change my mind.

---

Just because he was CEO of GE? What did he do that was "oligarch-esq"?