https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-12-11/la-city-council-votes-on-30-hour-minimum-wage-for-hotel-airport-workers

You whine loud enough, and the LA City Council which collectively have never worked a day in their lives will step in and make it happen.

quote from the article;

• On a 12-3 vote, council members instructed City Atty. Hydee Feldstein Soto to draft the legal language needed to push those wages to a minimum of $30 per hour by July 2028, just as the city hosts the Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Hope the rest of the world can cough up the extra bucks, not even to mention the 20% tips they will be demanding.

I wouldn't mind doing that, plus tips. I mean it's cali too... you smoke and don't care

Man, I'm about to have to takeover that part of the country and getting into LA is going to be my least favorite part of the job.

M4 Benelli said:

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https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-12-11/la-city-council-votes-on-30-hour-minimum-wage-for-hotel-airport-workers

You whine loud enough, and the LA City Council which collectively have never worked a day in their lives will step in and make it happen.

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I am sure that goes for all the cleaning staff who are 99% illegal too !!!

This little added bump from the article.

"At hotels, housekeepers, desk clerks and other employees would see a 48% hike over 3 years, compared with the $20.32 per hour currently set by the city's hotel minimum wage law. They would also receive a new $8.35 per hour payment to cover healthcare."

They (at least some)can afford this because the goverment is renting out rooms to homeless and illegal aliens at ridiculous rates.

More tax money down the drain.

So a bell hop or janitor is going to make $62K a year? Yeah the hotels won't have any problem with that business model.

Not Coach Jimbo said:

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They (at least some)can afford this because the goverment is renting out rooms to homeless and illegal aliens at ridiculous rates.

More tax money down the drain.

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Kansas Kid said:

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What could possibly go wrong?

I'm just disappointed they didn't make it $50/hr so they can all make $100k per year. Maybe next year they can go to $300/hr and make them all wealthy.

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Nah - if the workers got $50/hr they'd immediately demand a 20 hour work week. Making $100k/year brings income taxes and government benefits reductions into play and well you know working more than absolutely necessary is wasted effort.

My first job was making Texas minimum wage at a car wash. Sure, it would have been absolutely unlivable, but it was a summer job.

It's not that I don't feel bad for the other guys that were there, trying to use the same paycheck to feed a family. But they were getting paid what their skills and experience said they were worth as dictated by the job market. It's not the job market's job to provide for their families, nor is it anyone else's.

Would I go broke if minimum wage workers got a hike? No. Would I feel it? Yes, I'm pretty sure I would. I still shop the sales at the grocery store, don't go out to eat, etc. And maybe it's a "luxury" that I plan to pay for a good portion of my kids' college when they get that old. But it already requires me to sacrifice in order to say that. I'll be damned if someone is going to eat into that plan because they can't define what human rights are.

Nice vote to enact BS minimum wage which goes into effect in FOUR YEARS. All work will be subcontract or 1099 by then anyways.

Jeeper79 said:

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My first job was making Texas minimum wage at a car wash. Sure, it would have been absolutely unlivable, but it was a summer job.

It's not that I don't feel bad for the other guys that were there, trying to use the same paycheck to feed a family. But they were getting paid what their skills and experience said they were worth as dictated by the job market. It's not the job market's job to provide for their families, nor is it anyone else's.

Would I go broke if minimum wage workers got a hike? No. Would I feel it? Yes, I'm pretty sure I would. I still shop the sales at the grocery store, don't go out to eat, etc. And maybe it's a "luxury" that I plan to pay for a good portion of my kids' college when they get that old. But it already requires me to sacrifice in order to say that. I'll be damned if someone is going to eat into that plan because they can't define what human rights are.

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I worked ONE MW job -- for 2 months. No one there, and there were plenty of adults on their own, made anywhere near MW. In fact, I heard 2 rumors -- one that we got a raise after 3 months and another that we got the same raise after 6. I don't know what the truth was because right before the 3 month time, they insisted I work Saturdays and I told them I couldn't.

I don't know what's going on today, but I worked for several different places like that in HS and early college. That was the only place that paid MW and no one other than HS students made it.

91AggieLawyer said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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My first job was making Texas minimum wage at a car wash. Sure, it would have been absolutely unlivable, but it was a summer job.

It's not that I don't feel bad for the other guys that were there, trying to use the same paycheck to feed a family. But they were getting paid what their skills and experience said they were worth as dictated by the job market. It's not the job market's job to provide for their families, nor is it anyone else's.

Would I go broke if minimum wage workers got a hike? No. Would I feel it? Yes, I'm pretty sure I would. I still shop the sales at the grocery store, don't go out to eat, etc. And maybe it's a "luxury" that I plan to pay for a good portion of my kids' college when they get that old. But it already requires me to sacrifice in order to say that. I'll be damned if someone is going to eat into that plan because they can't define what human rights are.

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I worked ONE MW job -- for 2 months. No one there, and there were plenty of adults on their own, made anywhere near MW. In fact, I heard 2 rumors -- one that we got a raise after 3 months and another that we got the same raise after 6. I don't know what the truth was because right before the 3 month time, they insisted I work Saturdays and I told them I couldn't.

I don't know what's going on today, but I worked for several different places like that in HS and early college. That was the only place that paid MW and no one other than HS students made it.

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Indeed, one of the points of having young people work a MW job is to convince them to go out and make something of themselves so they don't have to work a MW job.

Jeeper79 said:

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Next year's headline:

LA business travel down 20%. City council perplexed

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Blames racism in other states...assembles an anti-racism-and-homophobia-in-travel-task-force to combat this.

As ridiculous as that sounds, it's not out-of-line for Cali...that's how irreversibly EFFED they are.

Liberals think only ideologically and never practically.

They think setting an artificial wage floor (minimum wage) magically increases the budget for labor.

Minimum wage always has and always will reduce the amount of labor demanded, i.e. causes unemployment.

This is high school economics stuff and they just can't understand these super simple concept.

MaroonStain said:

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All work will be subcontract or 1099 by then anyways.

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Which is why Newsom has made every effort to ban 1099 classification in the state. It's very difficult to be allowed to be an independent contractor except in very specific scenarios now. It's all part of the plan...

So literally the opposite of what you said will happen.

Enzomatic said:

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MaroonStain said:

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All work will be subcontract or 1099 by then anyways.

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Which is why Newsom has made every effort to ban 1099 classification in the state. It's very difficult to be allowed to be an independent contractor except in very specific scenarios now. It's all part of the plan...

So literally the opposite of what you said will happen.

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Wasn't a lot of that initially targeted at Uber and Lyft to protect the taxi drivers? Of course it immediately hit the truckers... Then it wrecked the gig economy associated with the entire entertainment industry.

Literally ZERO forethought regarding the unintended consequences of government intervention in a market

Kenneth_2003 said:

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Enzomatic said:

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MaroonStain said:

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All work will be subcontract or 1099 by then anyways.

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Which is why Newsom has made every effort to ban 1099 classification in the state. It's very difficult to be allowed to be an independent contractor except in very specific scenarios now. It's all part of the plan...

So literally the opposite of what you said will happen.

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Wasn't a lot of that initially targeted at Uber and Lyft to protect the taxi drivers? Of course it immediately hit the truckers... Then it wrecked the gig economy associated with the entire entertainment industry.

Literally ZERO forethought regarding the unintended consequences of government intervention in a market

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Yep. They aimed at the gig workers, who are literally the main people who SHOULD be 1099 classification. To be fair, the example used in this thread is actually not supposed to be 1099 works anywhere, including California, but the overall intention of the new law there was never a matter of helping the misclassified employees. That wasn't even a problem that needed to be addressed.

Personally, it was going to cost me tens of thousands of additional taxes since I have so many travel expenses and tons of business expenses that would have been disallowed for my gig-based job. I literally fit the definition of 1099, along with so many others, but it didnt matter, since the overall goal was to kill 1099 classification. Before I got tired of all that bull**** and moved to Idaho, where they welcomed me with open arms, I passed on all the lost deductions to my clients in a massive invoice hike just to break even, which they had no choice but to cover if they wanted my services. And in the end is passed on to the customers. Any wonder why that state's economy is such a disaster...

M4 Benelli said:

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Desk clerks will be the first to go. Bring on the kiosks!

I can see cleaning staff scaled back as well. Staying for 3 nights and want your room cleaned every night? That's an additional fee, elsewise it won't be cleaned until check out.

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Contract out the work to out of state suppliers.

doubledog said:

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M4 Benelli said:

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Desk clerks will be the first to go. Bring on the kiosks!

I can see cleaning staff scaled back as well. Staying for 3 nights and want your room cleaned every night? That's an additional fee, elsewise it won't be cleaned until check out.

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Contract out the work to out of state suppliers.

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A kiosk with a button to speak with a live customer service rep in India if you need help.

ts5641 said:

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So a bell hop or janitor is going to make $62K a year? Yeah the hotels won't have any problem with that business model.

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They'll bring in private contractors where they can.

M4 Benelli said:

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Desk clerks will be the first to go. Bring on the kiosks!

I can see cleaning staff scaled back as well. Staying for 3 nights and want your room cleaned every night? That's an additional fee, elsewise it won't be cleaned until check out.

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That happened to me in a recent trip to Columbia Missouri.