Wow, your mom is the exception. I am very happy for you!!

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Wow, your mom is the exception. I am very happy for you!!

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Thanks. She's a tough lady but I wouldn't vote for her to be in political office.

Can confirm on the hips. Had both done in my 60's. Piece of cake. Had the anterior method on both.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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No sorrow from me for this evil witch. She should have retired long ago.

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Unrelated question - is it illegal to urinate on someone's grave? I'm just asking for a friend.

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I have a friend that would like to know about that as well.

Don't agree with her political decisions, but wish her the best for a full recovery.

Not a doctor, and relatively new to the field but I work with hip and knee replacements and. A bit of context on issues with older patients and mortality:

One person already brought up that hip fractures is often caused by/a sign of other issues and can actually cause the fall. They also mentioned the issues with (I think) fat embolism and other exposures as related to the injury causing mental and other issues.

In addition to this, there is the joint infection issue, which can happen very quickly in an injury (why they try to reset as quickly as possible) as well as from the surgery itself. Joint infections can spread quickly and are VERY difficult to treat, often needing additional surgeries, and can easily be deadly.

The other side of it is just the trauma of the injury + surgery. In a hip replacement (even planned ones) they are literally beating on your body, cutting with saws, burning tissue, drilling into bones, etc. that you have to heal from. This process has been pretty refined but is still tough to heal from as you are elderly.

Then there is the reduced mobility and stress of pain management on the body.

All of these stack to make it a really traumatic event that can understandably not have great outcomes.

Hip fracture is pretty generic description and not the same as hip replacement for OA. The treatment is usually fixation not arthroplasty, depending on the extent of injury. Her outcome will depend on how bad the fracture is, odds are she won't do well, but probably not that lucky.

What kind of medical care will she get in Luxemburg?

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Probably loss of movement results in muscle atrophy which then causes more problems.

I screwed up my back in 2019 and spent 2 months in bed and agony/pain. It is Amazing how quickly you lose muscle mass and inwas in my early 40s.

If you're in your 80s, the effects have to be much worse. Issues with circulation etc

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Hip fracture is often a symptom of pre-existing issues rather than the cause of declining health. Many hip fractures occur spontaneously and are the cause of the fall & not the other way around. Repair of the fracture often has associated cerebral micro-embolisms from the exposed bone marrow fat that lead to mental cognition issues. Add to that the atrophy/circulation issues above and the fact that an 84 yo old patient is already on the wrong side of time before the fracture. She might do just fine, but odds are that she will face a significant decline from this.

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This. My dad broke his first at 82 and the second a year later. Both times while he was just standing, resulting in falls. First recovery not too bad, but rehab is tough at that age due to other things. Second was less than a year later and he ended up on diaysis for 6 months after that one. Still hurts.

I am so sorry she broke her hip. Maybe that is a sign that her time has come to give the reigns to someone she admires, AOC.

NEWS

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has had hip replacement surgery after suffering a fall while on a CoDel in Luxembourg.

This is per a statement from her office.

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) December 14, 2024

Sounds like it was US military doctors at a military hospital

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I don't care one way or another but complaining about these dinosaurs and their age while also supporting a near octogenarian with President Trump is comical.

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I think the difference is that people like Pelosi and McConnell are in their 80's and have been in government for basically their entire lives where as Trump is a relative newcomer who hasn't made a life of politics.

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What kind of medical care will she get in Luxemburg?

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The absolute best our taxpayer dollars can buy.

BQ78 said:

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Sounds like it was US military doctors at a military hospital

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Hope they were all DEI med students.

High risk for mortality in hip fractures for the older adult.

aggiehawg said:

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NEWS

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has had hip replacement surgery after suffering a fall while on a CoDel in Luxembourg.

This is per a statement from her office.

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) December 14, 2024

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Interesting that they didn't transport her back home. Might be an indication that it's a more complicated fracture than not.

agent-maroon said:

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aggiehawg said:

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NEWS

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has had hip replacement surgery after suffering a fall while on a CoDel in Luxembourg.

This is per a statement from her office.

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) December 14, 2024

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Interesting that they didn't transport her back home. Might be an indication that it's a more complicated fracture than not.

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It just means the US tax payer will be on the hook as it was in a military hospital rather than Nancy paying for it at a civilian hospital stateside.

Where are y'all seeing that it was in a military hospital? Military surgeons, but I'm not seeing location

My medical advice is she not be moved for 10 years for complete recovery (I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night).

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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No sorrow from me for this evil witch. She should have retired long ago.

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Unrelated question - is it illegal to urinate on someone's grave? I'm just asking for a friend.

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Not sure…but I can tell you that Karl Marx's grave in London's Highgate cemetery is not left unattended.

agent-maroon said:

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Where are y'all seeing that it was in a military hospital? Military surgeons, but I'm not seeing location

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Only and hour and half by car to Ramstein. Makes sense.

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Going to be hot where she's headed

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You aren't the judge of that.

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No, but we know pure evil when we see it. That's called discernment.

"Pure evil". Okay.

The Kraken said:

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"Pure evil". Okay.

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Giving false hope to people is as low as it gets.

agent-maroon said:

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Where are y'all seeing that it was in a military hospital? Military surgeons, but I'm not seeing location

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-announces-major-surgery-after-fall-germany

"Speaker Pelosi is grateful to U.S. military staff at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center at Landstuhl Army Base and medical staff at Hospital Kirchberg in Luxembourg for their excellent care and kindness.

Broken hip at 84? She's done.