01agtx said:

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And you are ok with cutting off the income of Americans. I get it. For some it is their entire livelihood. I'm ok with giving Trump a chance to fix this.

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I'm fine with them making income on TIkTok as along as it's not owned and operated by the CCP.

01agtx said:

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And you are ok with cutting off the income of Americans. I get it. For some it is their entire livelihood. I'm ok with giving Trump a chance to fix this.

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And I'm fine with Trump trying to fix it under the law. He isn't. That isn't acceptable. Ever.

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01agtx said:

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For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

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"I'm okay with the president ignoring laws I don't like"

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No, I'm not ok with lawlessness but I'm also not ok with the government having the power to cut off the income of everyday Americans.

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A lot of people make their income from drug dealing and shoplifting. I guess the government shouldn't do anything to cut off their income either. How about those that sell state secrets to the CCP?

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Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.

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If he ignores the ban after tomorrow, he's moved into the lawless phase of governing, ignoring not only Congress but SCOTUS.

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Like weed in Colorado?

Shoplifting there is a victim. There is no victim in TikTok.

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fredfredunderscorefred said:

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This entire episode (going back to when Trump wanted it gone) has team red and team blue members all over the place. Team blue members pointing out any hypocrisy of course as always have zero shred of self reflection.
Yass didn't donate to Trump (did donate to Desantis and Christie and republican causes including in his home state of Pennsylvania).
Ccp shouldn't be in control of what gets sent to/viewed by to millions of Americans. (The fact that Trump talked to Xi about this is exhibit 1259 of control ccp has of TikTok).
Suck and Elon annd others including the mainstream media already have similar control (not good), but they aren't committed foreign adversaries. (Some just committed domestic enemies).
Sure as hell don't want the US govt to be in ownership and have that control even at 50%.
If Trump can ignore the law and the SCOTUS, that ain't good. But wouldn't be surprised if congress (yet again) relinquished power to the executive.

3x Trump voter.

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Holy spin

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Jeff+Yass&order=desc&sort=D

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how much did he donate to trump? (especially a donation to trump aligned with timing of trump's reversal). honest question. He obviously gave to a lot of Rs/R initiatives. I have no problem saying trump's reversal seems clearly related to his meeting with Yass (moreso it appears as it relates to trump's view on how much stronger facebook could become). But what did Yass donate to Trump? I don't see it. For example, I can say "he donated at least $350,000.00 to Dan Patrick" or "he donated at least 2.2 million to school freedom fund." More than happy to say he did and I missed it.

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Shoplifting there is a victim. There is no victim in TikTok.

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Only the United States of America…..

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01agtx said:

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For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

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That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.

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Why didn't the gov ban temu? They rip off U.S. brands and violate patent laws daily.

So the China app that give people a voice = bad

But the China app that sells you a U.S. patented product made in China on the cheap = good

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backintexas2013 said:

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Shoplifting there is a victim. There is no victim in TikTok.

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Only the United States of America…..

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How is the USA a victim?

45-70Ag said:

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TikTok is low IQ entertainment, nothing more and nothing less. If Congress passed a law to over turn the ban, whatever.

Some state or states out of the fifty are going to challenge it being back on in court. Will jt be red or blue states?

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I'm guessing you've never used the app.

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fredfredunderscorefred said:

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This entire episode (going back to when Trump wanted it gone) has team red and team blue members all over the place. Team blue members pointing out any hypocrisy of course as always have zero shred of self reflection.
Yass didn't donate to Trump (did donate to Desantis and Christie and republican causes including in his home state of Pennsylvania).
Ccp shouldn't be in control of what gets sent to/viewed by to millions of Americans. (The fact that Trump talked to Xi about this is exhibit 1259 of control ccp has of TikTok).
Suck and Elon annd others including the mainstream media already have similar control (not good), but they aren't committed foreign adversaries. (Some just committed domestic enemies).
Sure as hell don't want the US govt to be in ownership and have that control even at 50%.
If Trump can ignore the law and the SCOTUS, that ain't good. But wouldn't be surprised if congress (yet again) relinquished power to the executive.

3x Trump voter.

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Holy spin

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Jeff+Yass&order=desc&sort=D

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how much did he donate to trump? (especially a donation to trump aligned with timing of trump's reversal). honest question. He obviously gave to a lot of Rs/R initiatives. I have no problem saying trump's reversal seems clearly related to his meeting with Yass (moreso it appears as it relates to trump's view on how much stronger facebook could become). But what did Yass donate to Trump? I don't see it. For example, I can say "he donated at least $350,000.00 to Dan Patrick" or "he donated at least 2.2 million to school freedom fund." More than happy to say he did and I missed it.

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You don't have to donate to trump to be valuable to trump. He backed a Super PAC that was backing Rs and going against Ds in multiple congressional races.

The point I'm making is that while you are technically correct, your post comes across as disingenuous. Yass is clearly an important donor to Trump. Pointing out that he didn't donate directly to Trump is meaningless. I really don't understand the point you were trying to make unless it was to indicate that Trump isn't actually doing any mutual back scratching with Yass.

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01agtx said:

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For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

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That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.

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Why didn't the gov ban temu? They rip off U.S. brands and violate patent laws daily.

So the China app that give people a voice = bad

But the China app that sells you a U.S. patented product made in China on the cheap = good

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Why can't all be bad, including Tik Tok?

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Kansas Kid said:

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01agtx said:

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For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

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That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.

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Why didn't the gov ban temu? They rip off U.S. brands and violate patent laws daily.

So the China app that give people a voice = bad

But the China app that sells you a U.S. patented product made in China on the cheap = good

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Not sure but I would guess it would open a can of worms on the debate over how liable sites are for the content they host. Does Temu manufacture and sell that stuff or does it just connect buyers and sellers? Should we shut eBay down because people sell fake/knockoff products on it?

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Shoplifting there is a victim. There is no victim in TikTok.

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The entire country is a victim to hostile foreign espionage.

I guess you probably think the Rosenburgs should have walked since there was no "victim".

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Logos Stick said:

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Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.

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If he ignores the ban after tomorrow, he's moved into the lawless phase of governing, ignoring not only Congress but SCOTUS.

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Like weed in Colorado?

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Yes, exactly like that. My fellow "conservatives" are proving themselves to be worse than Dems. To my knowledge, Biden did comply when SCOTUS ruled against his lawlessness. SCOTUS has ruled this law to be constitutional.

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What's the reasoning behind trump wanting to save it? Just to appeal to young people?

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It is to appeal to Jeff Yass who's firm owns 15% of ByteDance/Tiktok

"Yass started funneling money into the 2024 election early; at one point in March he was the biggest donor to outside spending groups. He, alongside wife Janine Yass, were No. 6 in top contributors to the election, contributing in total more than $96 million to Republican causes"

Remember Trump wanted to ban the app in his first term but has totally reversed his stance after Yass donated money.

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Now, things are making a lot more sense in Trump and a lot of his supporters' current views of Tik Tok.

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Imagine how this board would have reacted if Yass donated to Biden and he had vetoed the bill. It would have been all about 10% to the Big Guy, etc.

Also go see how Trump has flipped on Crypto.
"Trump seemed to largely keep up this negative view of digital assets after losing the 2020 presidential race to Joe Biden. In a June 2021 interview, roughly five months after leaving office, he said Bitcoin "just seems like a scam" and suggested the cryptocurrency was competing against the US dollar."

Trump highlights that he is transactional in nature and he is like the vast majority of politicians in doing what is in his best interest. I'm sure I will get he is better than Harris which I agree with but people that don't see through how he shapes his views aren't looking very hard.

https://www.tradingview.com/news/cointelegraph:b527c474a094b:0-how-did-donald-trump-deal-with-crypto-during-his-first-term/

PS. Don't forget most of his life he was pro choice including third trimester abortions
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

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He just keeps getting smarter the older he gets.

How bout we give him 100 days before we bring out the pitchforks...unless the F16 decides different.

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45-70Ag said:

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TikTok is low IQ entertainment, nothing more and nothing less. If Congress passed a law to over turn the ban, whatever.

Some state or states out of the fifty are going to challenge it being back on in court. Will jt be red or blue states?

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I'm guessing you've never used the app.

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I'd bet that state holds true for a lot of people on this thread celebrating the demise of TikTok


There's a guy who runs a small business called Mr. Mixer out of Augusta, KS. He was primarily in the business of repairing KitchenAid mixers. He noticed consistent problem of mixer head bouncing that often led to more costly repairs. He found the problem could be fixed with a small piece of rubber so he designed and patented the Everdime rubber washer. He now sells **** loads of washers, spare parts, and even metal carrying handles.

I spent $60 and bought the upgrade parts package from him at Christmas. The thing is I never would have known this guy existed had it not been for TikTok. Yeah there are stupid videos on there. But there is also breaking news as well. A lot of what early Twitter was with live videos, instant news updates, experts in various fields giving free lessons, etc has shifted to TikTok.

Gen Z will carve DJT on Mt. Rushmore pic.twitter.com/OXcHLKf3Ls

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 19, 2025

meme coin. It's called a meme coin.

Some of yall are going to be shocked when you realize the amount of data you voluntarily disclose by using your phones with apps. TikTok is bad because there are poorly maintained and enforced standards by Google and Apple for apps.

bad trump

Tik tok was dark for about a day.

The sun still rose.

And it didn't impact my life a bit. The tumbleweed blowing across my land had more impact.

The entire country? You mean the ones that use TikTok don't you? Here is what wsj says:

The app vacuums up sensitive American user information, including searches, browsing histories and locations.



Oh the humanity of this. How can they do this?

I'm just here for the whiplash. Which is the good Trump? The one saying he'll ban it or the one saying he'll save it?

Watching a bunch of adults argue over a juvenile app is comical. Y'all go recruit you some 12 year old punks to support your arguments.

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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Watching a bunch of adults argue over a juvenile app is comical. Y'all go recruit you some 12 year old punks to support your arguments.

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backintexas2013 said:

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Shoplifting there is a victim. There is no victim in TikTok.

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The United States is a victim. It's literally a giant listening device and intelligence gathering system.

You obviously know very little about TikTok. Regardless of your ignorance it's already back up like nothing even happened

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You mean the ones that use TikTok and anyone in their contacts on their phone or computer don't you?

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Perhaps you should at least take a few moments to educate yourself

President Trump's statements indicate that he may issue a 90-day extension for TikTok after he is sworn in on January 20th. However, there is a possible problem with such a plan given the language of the Act...

— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) January 19, 2025

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Some of yall are going to be shocked when you realize the amount of data you voluntarily disclose by using your phones with apps. TikTok is bad because there are poorly maintained and enforced standards by Google and Apple for apps.

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Everyone is aware. Most everyone either doesn't care, or has relented to the fact that certain things to get through life now have privacy trade offs.

The obvious additional bad thing about Tik Tok is that it's an enemy foreign nation snorting your data.

I would prefer to not have our mortal enemy have my data since we already have a one front war against our own government when it comes to privacy. I simply do not understand everyone that just gives up and lays down on this issue. "Welp, the US already gets this data so f* it here you go China, Russia, NK, and Iran - you can have it too!"

This is going to end up in court.

Here's a simple fact.

TikTok spies on approximately 170 people in the USA

Facebook and Google spies on approximately 250 million people in the USA

My own government spies on 350 million people in the USA

And I'll bring this up again - if you are using a TD Link router in your home you need to replace it. It's Chinese spyware. You are dumbass for keeping it simply because it's a little cheaper in cost than US competitors.