TikTok ban on Jan 19,2025

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Teslag said:

Im Gipper said:

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If Trump can ignore the law and the SCOTUS,


He is not.

HTH.


So when he presents his 90 day delay to congress he will hand a detailed report of significant progress for china's divestment?


For reference to what Tesla is referencing. P 60. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-118hr8038ih/pdf/BILLS-118hr8038ih.pdf


"Under the law, the president can grant a one-time extension of 90 days if he certifies to Congress that three things are true: There's a path to divestiture, there's "significant progress" toward executing it, and "there are in place the relevant binding legal agreements to enable execution of such qualified divestiture during the period of such extension."

No such binding legal agreements have been made public. "

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna188258

1) can an "extension" be granted after a deadline has passed? …
2) I'm not sure trump could certify the things necessary (especially 3)
3) where he yields the power appears to be in simply not enforcing the law. Similar to not enforcing laws against illegal immigrants etc. Some goose/gander, but if we are ignoring the law and SCOTUS based on 3, I'll stick with that aint good.
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Not having any of the TikBookGramX bull*****

Weakens minds.
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For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.
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That doesn't apply. The law gave 270 days from passage to divest. It also gave a one time extension of 90 days, for a total of 360 days, to divest, assuming they were in the process of doing so. We are in the post ban period now. Trump would be undoing the ban, which is not part of the law.
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Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.
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northeastag said:

Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.


If he ignores the ban after tomorrow, he's moved into the lawless phase of governing, ignoring not only Congress but SCOTUS.
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Logos Stick said:

That doesn't apply. The law gave 270 days from passage to divest. It also gave a one time extension of 90 days, for a total of 360 days, to divest, assuming they were in the process of doing so. We are in the post ban period now. Trump would be undoing the ban, which is not part of the law.


That would be my reading as well.
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01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.


"I'm okay with the president ignoring laws I don't like"
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https://instagr.am/p/DFA5xcSunmZ
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BigRobSA said:

Not having any of the TikBookGramX bull*****

Weakens minds.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.
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bad trump
Teslag
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Logos Stick said:

northeastag said:

Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.


If he ignores the ban after tomorrow, he's moved into the lawless phase of governing, ignoring not only Congress but SCOTUS.


Who would have standing to sue I wonder?
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It would be a brilliant PR move for Bluesky to sue
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Kansas Kid said:

01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.


Amazon, Walmart+, 360circle (Target), door dash, Uber, etc. If they all were banned, the nation would thrive like never before.

****ing lazy asses nowadays. Get your fatasses off the couch once in a while, grab some groceries to ****ing cook, buy your cheap Chinese **** at Walmart or Target, and live life.
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Teslag said:

Logos Stick said:

northeastag said:

Well I see that Trump has moved very quickly from the "Promise Making" of the campaign, to the "Promise Breaking" of governing.

Even though I voted for him three times, I'm not the slightest bit surprised.


If he ignores the ban after tomorrow, he's moved into the lawless phase of governing, ignoring not only Congress but SCOTUS.


Who would have standing to sue I wonder?


If we are in the "trump deciding to have DOJ not pursue/enforce the law" area (which it appears), then maybe that answer also gives us a path to find people with standing to sue to enforce the immigration laws (or any other law AGs decide to not enforce).
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Kansas Kid said:

01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.
When the Chinese government is doing everything it can to undermine our country, there's no reason to ban as much as possible from that country, or at least all that doesn't actually provide any actual use to our country, like asinine apps of Tik Tok and the like.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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BigRobSA said:

Kansas Kid said:

01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.

That is what makes TikTok all the scarier. Back when it was just silly videos the data was a lot less valuable. Now it is imbedded in the economy. How would people react if Amazon was a Chinese firm?

PS. Yes I would ban Temu and the other e-commerce sites from China.


Amazon, Walmart+, 360circle (Target), door dash, Uber, etc. If they all were banned, the nation would thrive like never before.

****ing lazy asses nowadays. Get your fatasses off the couch once in a while, grab some groceries to ****ing cook, buy your cheap Chinese **** at Walmart or Target, and live life.
One more star.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Teslag said:

01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.


"I'm okay with the president ignoring laws I don't like"


No, I'm not ok with lawlessness but I'm also not ok with the government having the power to cut off the income of everyday Americans.
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I'm going to say this just once and pardon my French. As I sit here in tears watching this event, there are A LOT more important issues in this world than fu***** TikTok!!!

God bless those who have made the ultimate sacrifice AMEN
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because hard men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
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Guess what boomers, tiktok already works again
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Don't trust him
Teslag
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01agtx said:

Teslag said:

01agtx said:

For all the creators and small businesses who were set to lose a significant amount of income, I'm happy to see it working again. I'm sure their fear was and is real. TikTok today is not the TikTok of 2020 where it was basically just people doing dances. Personally, the inauguration content will be much on the app than anywhere else.


"I'm okay with the president ignoring laws I don't like"


No, I'm not ok with lawlessness but I'm also not ok with the government having the power to cut off the income of everyday Americans.


The law was legally enacted and then held up as lawful by SCOTUS.

If you don't want it enforced, regardless of whatever reason you have, you literally are okay with lawlessness.
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fredfredunderscorefred said:

This entire episode (going back to when Trump wanted it gone) has team red and team blue members all over the place. Team blue members pointing out any hypocrisy of course as always have zero shred of self reflection.
Yass didn't donate to Trump (did donate to Desantis and Christie and republican causes including in his home state of Pennsylvania).
Ccp shouldn't be in control of what gets sent to/viewed by to millions of Americans. (The fact that Trump talked to Xi about this is exhibit 1259 of control ccp has of TikTok).
Suck and Elon annd others including the mainstream media already have similar control (not good), but they aren't committed foreign adversaries. (Some just committed domestic enemies).
Sure as hell don't want the US govt to be in ownership and have that control even at 50%.
If Trump can ignore the law and the SCOTUS, that ain't good. But wouldn't be surprised if congress (yet again) relinquished power to the executive.

3x Trump voter.


Holy spin

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Jeff+Yass&order=desc&sort=D
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BigRobSA said:

Not having any of the TikBookGramX bull*****

Weakens minds.
Tiktok is gay. Size 14shoe Mexican approved.
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Buckle up
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
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Lots of Commies on this thread gloating about it being back. EAD traitors.
Im Gipper
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The Fall Guy said:

Lots of Commies on this thread gloating about it being back. EAD traitors.


Seek help.

I'm Gipper
01agtx
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And you are ok with cutting off the income of Americans. I get it. For some it is their entire livelihood. I'm ok with giving Trump a chance to fix this.
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TikTok is low IQ entertainment, nothing more and nothing less. If Congress passed a law to over turn the ban, whatever.

Some state or states out of the fifty are going to challenge it being back on in court. Will jt be red or blue states?
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01agtx said:

And you are ok with cutting off the income of Americans. I get it. For some it is their entire livelihood. I'm ok with giving Trump a chance to fix this.
We have checks and balances. The executive does not have the power to suspend this fact.
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Im Gipper said:

The Fall Guy said:

Lots of Commies on this thread gloating about it being back. EAD traitors.


Seek help.


Nope George Bush and the Patriot Act. Same thing. More govt control
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Remind me again why people are celebrating them being back?

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01agtx said:

And you are ok with cutting off the income of Americans. I get it. For some it is their entire livelihood. I'm ok with giving Trump a chance to fix this.


If you whole income is tied to social media of any kind, well….. I'll just leave it at that
 
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