Obviously it wasn't just the swamp if he's already bowed out. If he was completely innocent and had nothing to hide that would have been a time suck and distraction, I guarantee he wouldn't have bowed out. The worst that would have happened would have been that he wasn't confirmed. Its not like the accusations haven't been in the public for a couple of years and obviously didn't hurt his re-electionEllis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Add `orange man' to that "definite" type of flag.oh no said:
anyone who questions Trump is not a libtard.
anyone who posts "dear leader" when referring to Trump as some sort of generalization that all anti-communists who voted for Trump over Hillary, Biden, or Kamala somehow worships Trump is definitely a libtard.
Relax guys. This is clearly not the first time Gaetz has pulled out.
— Jimmy Failla (@jimmyfailla) November 21, 2024
Highly disagree!FireAg said:
Pam Bondi
Ashley Moody
Greg Abbott
Ted Cruz would accept the nomination if asked, but he's not expecting to be asked…
Just to be clear, Gaetz's right hand man in any alleged wrongdoing got sent to prison for 11 years for the things Gaetz is accused of. It seems facially clear that he wasn't being prosecuted because he's a sitting Congressman.Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
The DOJ investigation ended it's investigation two years ago!. The House doesn't prosecute people. They don't do criminal investigations.
It's pretty obvious you make baseless claims and dont understand what happened here.
And unfortunately, I do believe that historically, congressmen have run interference for each other for fear of their own skeletons coming into view. This is a step in the right direction for politicians in generalMidnight Yale said:Just to be clear, Gaetz's right hand man in any alleged wrongdoing got sent to prison for 11 years for the things Gaetz is accused of. It seems facially clear that he wasn't being prosecuted because he's a sitting Congressman.Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
The DOJ investigation ended it's investigation two years ago!. The House doesn't prosecute people. They don't do criminal investigations.
It's pretty obvious you make baseless claims and dont understand what happened here.
Friends who work in DC also note that Gaetz does not hide how constantly drugged up and horny he is. Not the character I want out of the highest ranking legal officer in the country.
The DOJ's "star witness" is a hooker - probably not the cornerstone you want to build a case around.Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:So a Merrick Garland DOJ uncovered "unsavory things" about one of the loudest and most outspoken bulldogs against them, and did nothing?Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged.
And you somehow think that's obvious that he did something wrong?
Say it, stop dancing. You said there are facts and its obvious. What exactly are accusing him of?
It's beyond reasonable dispute at this point that he has paid prostitutes for sex. We have his messages and Venmo receipts and multiple witnesses. So that would be what I'm accusing him of. I'm sure a lot of congressmen have done the same. But the AG of the United States can't be someone whom it's understood by everyone pays prostitutes for sex.
Im Gipper said:Highly disagree!FireAg said:
Pam Bondi
Ashley Moody
Greg Abbott
Ted Cruz would accept the nomination if asked, but he's not expecting to be asked…
Cruz is happy (and great) right where he is!
Logos Stick said:
Swamp wins!
Have a feeling this will be a pyrrhic victory for the Swamp!LegalDrugPusher said:Logos Stick said:
Swamp wins!
At the moment but maybe not and probably not in the long run
dmart90 said:The DOJ's "star witness" is a hooker - probably not the cornerstone you want to build a case around.Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:So a Merrick Garland DOJ uncovered "unsavory things" about one of the loudest and most outspoken bulldogs against them, and did nothing?Infection_Ag11 said:Heineken-Ashi said:Obvious? Then say the answer in clear and simple terms. You think he's guilty?Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
I think it's pretty clear their investigation uncovered some pretty unsavory things but came up short on the underage/minor claims and they didn't want a perceived political witch hunt going down over something as "trivial" as prostitution. Especially with how many congressmen have probably utilized those services. But had they released the findings as they usually do but refused to prosecute, the other side would have been outraged.
And you somehow think that's obvious that he did something wrong?
Say it, stop dancing. You said there are facts and its obvious. What exactly are accusing him of?
It's beyond reasonable dispute at this point that he has paid prostitutes for sex. We have his messages and Venmo receipts and multiple witnesses. So that would be what I'm accusing him of. I'm sure a lot of congressmen have done the same. But the AG of the United States can't be someone whom it's understood by everyone pays prostitutes for sex.
Midnight Yale said:Just to be clear, Gaetz's right hand man in any alleged wrongdoing got sent to prison for 11 years for the things Gaetz is accused of. It seems facially clear that he wasn't being prosecuted because he's a sitting Congressman.Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
The DOJ investigation ended it's investigation two years ago!. The House doesn't prosecute people. They don't do criminal investigations.
It's pretty obvious you make baseless claims and dont understand what happened here.
Friends who work in DC also note that Gaetz does not hide how constantly drugged up and horny he is. Not the character I want out of the highest ranking legal officer in the country.
LegalDrugPusher said:Logos Stick said:
Swamp wins!
At the moment but maybe not and probably not in the long run
1. Who is his right hand man? What was he a right hand man for? What was sent to prison for? Being a pedo? Do you have proof of their relationship as man and right hand man aside from your friends that work in DC? Actual proof?Midnight Yale said:Just to be clear, Gaetz's right hand man in any alleged wrongdoing got sent to prison for 11 years for the things Gaetz is accused of. It seems facially clear that he wasn't being prosecuted because he's a sitting Congressman.Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Logos Stick said:Infection_Ag11 said:Ellis Wyatt said:
The Swamp
Nah, the walls are just closing in on a guy with too many skeletons in the closet.
It's incredibly obvious at this point there's some really damning stuff that was going to come to light if he remained in public life.
Completely baseless accusation. Nice.
There are financial records and emails documenting his use of prostitutes.
Now sure, the underage boy/girl stuff may very well be false. But we're at the point where that's a question for the legal side of things. He's clearly not a viable candidate for AG of the United States regardless.
Your DOJ investigated and cleared him. Just stop with your bull**** accusations.
They didn't clear him, they declined to prosecute but withheld all the evidence. It's pretty obvious what happened there.
The DOJ investigation ended it's investigation two years ago!. The House doesn't prosecute people. They don't do criminal investigations.
It's pretty obvious you make baseless claims and dont understand what happened here.
Friends who work in DC also note that Gaetz does not hide how constantly drugged up and horny he is. Not the character I want out of the highest ranking legal officer in the country.
Youre 5D chessing yourself.zag213004 said:LegalDrugPusher said:Logos Stick said:
Swamp wins!
At the moment but maybe not and probably not in the long run
Most critical of gaetz only have a problem with him as the nominee and are ok with many of the other nominees... In fact "the swamp" not moving to block the confirmation process of the other nominees should concern all of MAGA even more. Maybe trump is just nominating "swamp 2.0" people to power!!!!
LegalDrugPusher said:Logos Stick said:
Swamp wins!
At the moment but maybe not and probably not in the long run
Quote:
According to CNN chief legal correspondent Paula Reid, "we [CNN] called to say we were going to report that 'Ethics committee told there was a *second* sexual encounter between Gaetz and 17 year old in 2017,'" and Gaetz withdrew 45 minutes later.
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"They asked us to give them an hour. We did," said Reid, explaining that they had told Gaetz's team they would go live at 12:30 pm, "and about a moment before I was supposed to come on air and share the new reporting…we didn't get a statement from Gaetz, and instead we got the statement saying that he was withdrawing as the attorney general pick."
Reid summarized what the new reporting was that "the woman who is at the center of these allegations that he had sex with a minor, has told the ethics committee that when she was just 17, she had not one but two sexual encounters with Gaetz at a party in Florida. And that that sexual second encounter involved an adult woman."
Wrong. It's that he pisses off people who I trust the least. I don't personally care about Gaetz. I like that he was hovering over the right targets. If he's a POS, then fine, can his ass. Assuming there are actual facts that support it. Hopefully someone even better replaces him.Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Those that want to protect Gaetz only want to do so because he pisses people off. The AG should be more than that.
FCBlitz said:
Do you think a few of these outrageous, I can't believe Trump would nominate them…..are simply distractions. Look how much attention the MG story received.
someone like Sessions or Barr, right?Deputy Travis Junior said:
Trump should find a no-nonsense conservative who's been running a major prosecutors office for 10+ years
If true, he's done for.Charpie said:
Apparently, he dropped out because they found out about a new accuser.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/gaetz-dropped-out-after-cnn-inquiry-about-new-allegation-involving-threesome-with-17-year-old/Quote:
According to CNN chief legal correspondent Paula Reid, "we [CNN] called to say we were going to report that 'Ethics committee told there was a *second* sexual encounter between Gaetz and 17 year old in 2017,'" and Gaetz withdrew 45 minutes later.Quote:
"They asked us to give them an hour. We did," said Reid, explaining that they had told Gaetz's team they would go live at 12:30 pm, "and about a moment before I was supposed to come on air and share the new reporting…we didn't get a statement from Gaetz, and instead we got the statement saying that he was withdrawing as the attorney general pick."
Reid summarized what the new reporting was that "the woman who is at the center of these allegations that he had sex with a minor, has told the ethics committee that when she was just 17, she had not one but two sexual encounters with Gaetz at a party in Florida. And that that sexual second encounter involved an adult woman."
I guess the lesson here is don't have sex with 17 year olds and have political aspirations..unless you're Bill Clinton.
Charpie said:
Apparently, he dropped out because they found out about a new accuser.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/gaetz-dropped-out-after-cnn-inquiry-about-new-allegation-involving-threesome-with-17-year-old/Quote:
According to CNN chief legal correspondent Paula Reid, "we [CNN] called to say we were going to report that 'Ethics committee told there was a *second* sexual encounter between Gaetz and 17 year old in 2017,'" and Gaetz withdrew 45 minutes later.Quote:
"They asked us to give them an hour. We did," said Reid, explaining that they had told Gaetz's team they would go live at 12:30 pm, "and about a moment before I was supposed to come on air and share the new reporting…we didn't get a statement from Gaetz, and instead we got the statement saying that he was withdrawing as the attorney general pick."
Reid summarized what the new reporting was that "the woman who is at the center of these allegations that he had sex with a minor, has told the ethics committee that when she was just 17, she had not one but two sexual encounters with Gaetz at a party in Florida. And that that sexual second encounter involved an adult woman."
I guess the lesson here is don't have sex with 17 year olds and have political aspirations..unless you're Bill Clinton.
LMCane said:
Katie Pavlich suggested getting Sam Alito to step down from SCOTUS and become the Attorney General
then Trump could appoint a new 45 year old conservative to the Court.
BRILLIANT 5D chess!
I will agree if there's proof the allegations are true. Have still yet to see any nor has anyone with strong claims on this thread produced anything other than their own words.LMCane said:
I don't think it is too much to ask for with 77 Million Trump voters:
to find ONE who was not heavily involved in threesomes from the Seeking Arrangement website and paying teenagers to join in on orgies.
aren't we the "CONSERVATIVE" party?!?!
