D.O.G.E. Plan to Dismantle Bureaucratic State and Slash Federal Workforce

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will25u
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Let's GOOOO!

Get the federal government out of my life.



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Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have released their plan to dismantle the bureaucratic state, slash the federal workforce and end the waste.

The Department of Government Efficiency plans to:
- Enact strict in-person office attendance to encourage resignations
- Use swift executive action and rely on Supreme Court rulings
- Slash regulations and other burdensome policies within the administrative state
- Severely reduce the federal workforce
- Target misused federal spending (money being spent on stuff it was NOT supposed to be spent on)
- Use Trump's authority to edit civil service rules, lessen protections for workers from being fired
- And finally, RESTORE THE FOUNDERS' VISION.

"Our nation was founded on the basic idea that the people we elect run the government. That isn't how America functions today. Most legal edicts aren't laws enacted by Congress but 'rules and regulations' promulgated by unelected bureaucratstens of thousands of them each year."

"This is antidemocratic and antithetical to the Founders' vision."

"There is no better birthday gift to our nation on its 250th anniversary than to deliver a federal government that would make our Founders proud."
will25u
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Also...

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will25u said:



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Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have released their plan to dismantle the bureaucratic state, slash the federal workforce and end the waste.

The Department of Government Efficiency plans to:
- Enact strict in-person office attendance to encourage resignations
- Use swift executive action and rely on Supreme Court rulings
- Slash regulations and other burdensome policies within the administrative state
- Severely reduce the federal workforce
- Target misused federal spending (money being spent on stuff it was NOT supposed to be spent on)
- Use Trump's authority to edit civil service rules, lessen protections for workers from being fired
- And finally, RESTORE THE FOUNDERS' VISION.

"Our nation was founded on the basic idea that the people we elect run the government. That isn't how America functions today. Most legal edicts aren't laws enacted by Congress but 'rules and regulations' promulgated by unelected bureaucratstens of thousands of them each year."

"This is antidemocratic and antithetical to the Founders' vision."

"There is no better birthday gift to our nation on its 250th anniversary than to deliver a federal government that would make our Founders proud."



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The humane thing is to teach the laid off employees marketable skills: plumbing, HVAC, appliance repair, electrical, construction. All in a community college setting with a generous severance package of two weeks salary plus accrued vacation/comp time. Like my retirement package.
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Slash it…slash it…slash it!
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The in-office requirement is stupid. If people are doing their job adequately at home, let them. If they aren't or their job isn't needed, then let them go. Then tell the GSA to either sublease the office space or sell the buildings that are vacant.
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inject it into my veins

AFUERA!
Rossticus
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It has nothing to do with whether they're equally effective. It's a tool to prompt people with options to go elsewhere. Bam. Step one in your plan to reduce federal bureaucracy.
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will25u said:

Also...


This is the way!
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Enact strict in-person office attendance to encourage resignations


That's going to trigger some posters.

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Bring back the Civil Service Exam. I'm not kidding. It was discontinued in 1981 because it was racist, with predictable results.
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Throw in a mandatory piss test on Day One. That will help you cull people without paying severance.
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I concur.
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Page 1! This is ****ing awesome!!
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The in office requirements are solely to self deport people from government.
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I struggle to understand how this is unilaterally considered a good thing. I'll put myself out there. I was hired as a remote government employee. Our team is intentionally remote to prevent us from all being congregated in D.C. and instead geographically diverse so we can better serve the public that we work with. By being remote, my salary is lower because I live in a lower cost of living area and other than a laptop, the government has zero equipment and physical space costs for me.

Requiring a return to office would cost more in salary, equipment, and office space and limit our spatial distribution making us one of those groups of bureaucrats in DC that everyone hates.

I totally get that there are underperformers and cuts that need to be a made, but I do not see how an across the board return to work mandate is actually going to save any money.
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Juan, and only Juan
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This is terrific.... pass legislation to make it permanent.
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OregonAg03 said:

I struggle to understand how this is unilaterally considered a good thing. I'll put myself out there. I was hired as a remote government employee. Our team is intentionally remote to prevent us from all being congregated in D.C. and instead geographically diverse so we can better serve the public that we work with. By being remote, my salary is lower because I live in a lower cost of living area and other than a laptop, the government has zero equipment and physical space costs for me.

Requiring a return to office would cost more in salary, equipment, and office space and limit our spatial distribution making us one of those groups of bureaucrats in DC that everyone hates.

I totally get that there are underperformers and cuts that need to be a made, but I do not see how an across the board return to work mandate is actually going to save any money.


As part of this action - move your agency out of DC (and many others) to somewhere far more economical to live.
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"This is antidemocratic and antithetical to the Founders' vision."
Saving our democracy
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Hey Elon and Vivek.

Three alphabets....

A.T.F


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deddog said:

Hey Elon and Vivek.

Three alphabets....

A.T.F





Im actually really hoping he puts Brandon Herrera in charge of the ATF....
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OregonAg03 said:

I struggle to understand how this is unilaterally considered a good thing. I'll put myself out there. I was hired as a remote government employee. Our team is intentionally remote to prevent us from all being congregated in D.C. and instead geographically diverse so we can better serve the public that we work with. By being remote, my salary is lower because I live in a lower cost of living area and other than a laptop, the government has zero equipment and physical space costs for me.

Requiring a return to office would cost more in salary, equipment, and office space and limit our spatial distribution making us one of those groups of bureaucrats in DC that everyone hates.

I totally get that there are underperformers and cuts that need to be a made, but I do not see how an across the board return to work mandate is actually going to save any money.


Sounds like you have a legitimate case. Hope it works out. Unfortunately the system is so fooked up, some collateral damage may occur.

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I wouldn't argue against that one bit. We are most functional as a remote distributed team. So frankly we don't need a physical home base at all. But this would force one and incur costs that we currently don't have.
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OregonAg03 said:

I struggle to understand how this is unilaterally considered a good thing. I'll put myself out there. I was hired as a remote government employee. Our team is intentionally remote to prevent us from all being congregated in D.C. and instead geographically diverse so we can better serve the public that we work with. By being remote, my salary is lower because I live in a lower cost of living area and other than a laptop, the government has zero equipment and physical space costs for me.

Requiring a return to office would cost more in salary, equipment, and office space and limit our spatial distribution making us one of those groups of bureaucrats in DC that everyone hates.

I totally get that there are underperformers and cuts that need to be a made, but I do not see how an across the board return to work mandate is actually going to save any money.
Are you willing to move back to whatever office you would report to? Or would you seek alternative employment?
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OregonAg03 said:

I wouldn't argue against that one bit. We are most functional as a remote distributed team. So frankly we don't need a physical home base at all. But this would force one and incur costs that we currently don't have.
If there is NO home base, this may be one of the exception cases since you CAN'T return to an office.
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While I like the plan, how can the president simply eliminate bureaucratic agencies created and authorized by the legislative branch and laws?
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TarponChaser said:

While I like the plan, how can the president simply eliminate bureaucratic agencies created and authorized by the legislative branch and laws?
Spitballing here, but they could declare an emergency and seize the authority.
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Being required to report to an office is not a deal breaker to me. I just think it's dumb because it's a waste of money and resources.
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For those of you that don't have a WSJ account, here is the Op-Ed in its entirety

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OregonAg03 said:

I struggle to understand how this is unilaterally considered a good thing. I'll put myself out there. I was hired as a remote government employee. Our team is intentionally remote to prevent us from all being congregated in D.C. and instead geographically diverse so we can better serve the public that we work with. By being remote, my salary is lower because I live in a lower cost of living area and other than a laptop, the government has zero equipment and physical space costs for me.

Requiring a return to office would cost more in salary, equipment, and office space and limit our spatial distribution making us one of those groups of bureaucrats in DC that everyone hates.

I totally get that there are underperformers and cuts that need to be a made, but I do not see how an across the board return to work mandate is actually going to save any money.
The work remote or in the office is a subtheme of the broader government efficiency topic. Making the government more efficient could actually result in more employees working closer to their constituents instead of bottled up in DC (Ag Dept for example), and it could also result in more remote work like your situation.

There's a LOT of waste and bloat in our federal government. A blind man could see it. But there's also a lot of good, and I hope they are thoughtful and deliberate in their approach and not reckless. I don't like reckless. I've seen it too many times in the corporate world where a "good idea" gets put on steroids, with impossible timelines, and it ends us doing more harm than good.

Their top priority with DOGE should be "do it right."
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Slashing regulations and fixing a broken procurement system is, in my opinion, far more important than the personnel changes. Decentralizing and downsizing the federal work force is a good thing. I firmly believe most federal agencies should be moved out of DC. But I don't have a problem with a remote workforce for positions that it makes sense for and productive employees.
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