BMX Bandit said:

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Enact strict in-person office attendance to encourage resignations

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That's going to trigger some posters.

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The best Texags posters work from home… coincidence?

OregonAg03 said:

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Being required to report to an office is not a deal breaker to me. I just think it's dumb because it's a waste of money and resources.

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Would it cause others in your department to seek alternative employment?

Libs and CMS in panic mode

Ag with kids said:

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OregonAg03 said:

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Being required to report to an office is not a deal breaker to me. I just think it's dumb because it's a waste of money and resources.

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Would it cause others in your department to seek alternative employment?

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If the requirement was to move to D.C., possibly. But since none of us have ever reported to D.C., they may instead require reporting to the nearest field office. If that's the case, then I don't see any of them leaving.

But the problem is these aren't the "trim the fat" positions that will just go away. They would need to be backfilled and if you're limiting your pool of applicants to people willing to work in D.C., then you'll be getting a downgrade in personnel, no doubt.

"Elon & Vivek" said:

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DOGE will work with legal experts embedded in government agencies, aided by advanced technology, to apply these rulings to federal regulations enacted by such agencies.

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That sounds like Elon's xAI will be going through all federal agencies and applying the Chevron case at a scale that would require an army of based lawyers to accomplish.

This brings a tear to my eye... a tear of joy.

I guess billionaires don't have life insurance policies. I hope their wills and other affairs are in order.

maverick2076 said:

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Slashing regulations and fixing a broken procurement system is, in my opinion, far more important than the personnel changes. Decentralizing and downsizing the federal work force is a good thing. I firmly believe most federal agencies should be moved out of DC. But I don't have a problem with a remote workforce for positions that it makes sense for and productive employees.

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Vivek makes the point that the bloated personel leads to all these regulations. Since people can never be fired they just keep looking for more to do which means creating new regulations.

Many of those folks do nothing but **** to "justify" they're needed... regardless of its implication to citizens just trying to do their best.

TarponChaser said:

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While I like the plan, how can the president simply eliminate bureaucratic agencies created and authorized by the legislative branch and laws?

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My understanding:

The way most laws are written is that congress makes appropriations for the creation of an agency and then gives them authority.

Congress does not determine the actual organizational structure of the agency.

That is up to the executive branch per his constitutional authority.

The law and the budget does not dictate the executive use all the money appropriated to the agency, just that it forms one under the authority the law gives it and with the budget appropriates it.

As long as the agency is fulfilling the legal purpose congress has given it, the executive has technically done his job.

The way most agencies have been created, they are given y congress authority to make rules and regulations within their scope of oversight. Then the executive makes the hard and fast rules under which the agency is governed.

The executive has broad scope to determine the rules under which an agency fulfills its congressional given authority.

Cut federal jobs by 50%

In for, I hope, the greatest political movement in 220 years.

OregonAg03 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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OregonAg03 said:

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Being required to report to an office is not a deal breaker to me. I just think it's dumb because it's a waste of money and resources.

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Would it cause others in your department to seek alternative employment?

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If the requirement was to move to D.C., possibly. But since none of us have ever reported to D.C., they may instead require reporting to the nearest field office. If that's the case, then I don't see any of them leaving.

But the problem is these aren't the "trim the fat" positions that will just go away. They would need to be backfilled and if you're limiting your pool of applicants to people willing to work in D.C., then you'll be getting a downgrade in personnel, no doubt.

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Every group thinks that 100% of its members are 100% necessary and that anyone else replacing them would be worse.

Recruit Bezos to restructure and tear up the concrete at USPS.

My guess is that DOGE will not go anywhere the military industrial complex. They'll turn a blind eye to any bloat or mismanagement as long as it relates to the development of weapons. What will be first on the chopping block is any agency that provides social services or regulations to protect people. Such a drastic change in structure this fast will have massive consequences. Our government is huge and manages so many different aspects of society that no one person can fully comprehend it. Though we're about to find out what happens when you hit its foundation with a recking ball.

maverick2076 said:

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Slashing regulations and fixing a broken procurement system is, in my opinion, far more important than the personnel changes. Decentralizing and downsizing the federal work force is a good thing. I firmly believe most federal agencies should be moved out of DC. But I don't have a problem with a remote workforce for positions that it makes sense for and productive employees.

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You can't really do one without the other. We have to slash personnel to make government smaller overall.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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My guess is that DOGE will not go anywhere the military industrial complex. They'll turn a blind eye to any bloat or mismanagement as long as it relates to the development of weapons. What will be first on the chopping block is any agency that provides social services or regulations to protect people. Such a drastic change in structure this fast will have massive consequences. Our government is huge and manages so many different aspects of society that no one person can fully comprehend it. Though we're about to find out what happens when you hit its foundation with a recking ball.

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Let's hope they go after social services. I am hopeful they will. We have way too many handouts. Define protect people? OSHA and the horrible vaccine mandate bs? Random regulations that make no sense? SSI with terrible oversight?

will25u said:

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Also...

BREAKING: Vivek just announced that he will be pausing his own weekly podcast to launch a new show with Elon called "DOGEcast," which they will use to give the nation regular updates on their cost-cutting

I am going to be watching every single minute of their new show. Imagine… pic.twitter.com/NvkuGNyoIp

— George (@BehizyTweets) November 20, 2024

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This will be a great listen!

This is how you transform the way government works. The only "negative" is stressed out, butthurt and useless federal employees annoying America with their constant whining.

I agree with smaller government. I don't agree with none. Case in point, CISA is needed. It just needs different leadership and Trump can fix that.

Signel said:

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I agree with smaller government. I don't agree with none. Case in point, CISA is needed. It just needs different leadership and Trump can fix that.

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Who is saying no government?

The only way this works is if we have at least eight years to do it, a constitutional convention is arranged to constitutionally limit the size of the government to % of GDP. It has to be structural and damn near impossible to change, or the Democrats when they get elected will ballon it again.

DarkBrandon01 said:

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My guess is that DOGE will not go anywhere the military industrial complex. They'll turn a blind eye to any bloat or mismanagement as long as it relates to the development of weapons. What will be first on the chopping block is any agency that provides social services or regulations to protect people. Such a drastic change in structure this fast will have massive consequences. Our government is huge and manages so many different aspects of society that no one person can fully comprehend it. Though we're about to find out what happens when you hit its foundation with a recking ball.

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