TTUArmy said:

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Don't let the mainstream media play with your head. They are going to smear and bad mouth every one of Trump's potential appointees as "unqualified" and "dangerous to democracy".

Gaetz is just fine.

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I can assure you that mainstream media has played zero role in my concerns regarding Gaetz's experience. I'm a lawyer. I know what legal experience looks like. Gaetz doesn't have it. Can he overcome that? Perhaps, but it would be like asking a non-pilot to land a plane.

CyclingAg82 said:

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He won't be practicing law at this level, obviously. His main task is to clean out the DOJ of the washingtonized rats that infest that Department. His deputies will keep him informed of the litigation issues.

Also, be an unintimidated spokesperson for 47's mandate to drain the swamp.

Just my opinion as to how things should shake there.

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This...

Gaetz would be the face of the effort, the pitbull, if you will...

The people beneath him will be the ones doing the work and arming him with what would be brought forward...

Two points to consider:

1. Experience can be important but is not determinative. Just as experience with bad practices can be detrimental but not determinative.

2. In the immediate job of hiring a new AG for the next 2 to 4 years - what experience is thought to be most beneficial? Is it that of a practicing trial attorney or might it be someone experienced with firing staff and managing an organizational culture reinvention.

Personally - I think the new AG's (whomever) largest task is cutting and burning the department to its core and starting over.

FireAg said:

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CyclingAg82 said:

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He won't be practicing law at this level, obviously. His main task is to clean out the DOJ of the washingtonized rats that infest that Department. His deputies will keep him informed of the litigation issues.

Also, be an unintimidated spokesperson for 47's mandate to drain the swamp.

Just my opinion as to how things should shake there.

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This...

Gaetz would be the face of the effort, the pitbull, if you will...

The people beneath him will be the ones doing the work and arming him with what would be brought forward...

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Assuming you don't want to rely on the folks already in the DOJ, you're going to need to bring in a bunch of people from the outside to fill those jobs. Who are these people? They aren't people that Gaetz deals with on a daily basis as a Congressman, and his resume doesn't indicate that he has any contacts like this from his professional experience. Will the people you need to hire to do these jobs want to work under Gaetz? That is a huge question.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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The Banned said:

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Agree with OP. To clean out the DOJ one must know how to navigate the DOJ, or surround yourself with people that can help you.

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Rod Rosenstein, et al were masters at navigating the DOJ. Trump absolutely needs to bring in an outsider.

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Rod would be an excellent choice.

twk said:

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FireAg said:

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CyclingAg82 said:

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He won't be practicing law at this level, obviously. His main task is to clean out the DOJ of the washingtonized rats that infest that Department. His deputies will keep him informed of the litigation issues.

Also, be an unintimidated spokesperson for 47's mandate to drain the swamp.

Just my opinion as to how things should shake there.

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This...

Gaetz would be the face of the effort, the pitbull, if you will...

The people beneath him will be the ones doing the work and arming him with what would be brought forward...

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Assuming you don't want to rely on the folks already in the DOJ, you're going to need to bring in a bunch of people from the outside to fill those jobs. Who are these people? They aren't people that Gaetz deals with on a daily basis as a Congressman, and his resume doesn't indicate that he has any contacts like this from his professional experience. Will the people you need to hire to do these jobs want to work under Gaetz? That is a huge question.

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If I'm not mistaken, it starts with Todd Blanche as Deputy AG…

Trump named him about 5 days ago, to much less fanfare than the Gaetz AG announcement…

twk said:

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Are there no conservatives with experience?

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maybe none that have given Trump confidence that they will be bull dogs in dismantling the completely weaponized department.

Just throwing Gaetz's name out there has US attorneys threatening to leave; helping to achieve a goal without even being confirmed or doing any work yet. I think that was intentional.

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twk said:

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Are there no conservatives with experience?

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maybe none that have given Trump confidence that they will be bull dogs in dismantling the completely weaponized department.

Just throwing Gaetz's name out there has US attorneys threatening to leave; helping to achieve a goal without even being confirmed or doing any work yet. I think that was intentional.

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And I'm fine with that. But, who is going to hire the replacements? That's my question. I don't think Gaetz will pay enough attention to that. His MO is strictly to pursue publicity.

Todd Blanche has been nominated as Deputy AG. Blanche is now a private attorney who repesented Trump but his background is a prosecutor in the crown jewel of DOJ, SDNY.

Several of Trump's picks aren't the ones I would have chosen because I think they have been screaming about tearing it all down but don't necessarily understand how to really do it or how to fix it. There are some really smart people in the conservative movement who do btw, folks that have been fighting these battles for a very long time and understand where the cracks are but have simply been blocked out by the RINOs and Neocons. I really hope Trump gets over his DeSantis/Reynolds hate block out but unfortunately with Wiles and some of the other folks around him that's unlikely to happen. It's such a waste to leave folks like that and the people that support and work for them on the sideline over personal pettiness.

One thing to keep in mind is usually the most effective people in getting changes done for good or bad are rarely on television. Trump's most effective guy by far in his last term was Lighthizer who just spent 4 years stacking W's on Trade but most people have no idea of who he is. Garland is terrible but he does a great job of keeping a low profile and just doing his dirty work behind the scenes.

Gaetz is a guy that loves cameras and is going to spend a lot of time talking about what he wants to do and his persona will be a big distraction. The question is can he overcome that and can he actually execute. I hope he can.

The greater point is this is the team we have and there is no going back. We have to support Trump to the wall and go for it even if we don't like everything he is doing. The Dems have been playing for keeps and we have to take advantage of this window even if it isn't perfect, just keep driving forward and accept that sometimes better is the enemy of good enough.

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CyclingAg82 said:

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He won't be practicing law at this level, obviously. His main task is to clean out the DOJ of the washingtonized rats that infest that Department.

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He's not been nominated for head of Human Resources, he's been nominated for Attorney General. I'm happy to read stories about folks who are resigning voluntarily just because he has been nominated, but there is more to the job than that. Fixing the DOJ is a long term job that is going to require a lot of work out of the spotlight. That doesn't fit Gaetz at all.

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Gaetz's primary job will not be to try cases. It will be to root out the corruption and bias within the DOJ. So from my perspective, his experience in the HOR is more relevant at this point in time than trial experience.

As stated above, Merrick Garland was exquisitely qualified for AG from an experience standpoint; however, he is the architect for weaponizing and creating the most politically biased DOJ in generations, if ever.

If Gaetz isn't up to the job, it will become evident soon enough. But honestly the job requires a bull-headedness and willingness to aggressively push back against the inevitable media and Democrat narratives that would be built around ANY Trump nominated AG. IMO, THAT is the most relevant qualification for AG at this juncture.

If he knows how to kick a** I like the pick, it is past time to drain the sludge from the swamp

Just as a side reference point regarding previous experience, according to the interwebz, 41 of the 115 justices had no prior judicial experience prior to sitting on the Supreme Court.

Previous experience is not a deal breaker.

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The Banned said:

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Agree with OP. To clean out the DOJ one must know how to navigate the DOJ, or surround yourself with people that can help you.

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Rod Rosenstein, et al were masters at navigating the DOJ. Trump absolutely needs to bring in an outsider.

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You're conflating two different things.

Without getting into whether or not DeSantis can be/will be/should be the next president, we can look at the approach he took in Florida that completely flipped the state. You have to both be against the system AND know how to beat it. He and his allies relentlessly studied and found ways to win. He listed two Soros AGs with ease. He beat Disney. He's made democrats give up on the state entirely due to cleaning up elections. That is done with a lot of planning and execution.

I don't see Gaetz having that skill set. Maybe I'll be wrong and he crushes it, but this position and the task at hand will take a monumental effort and attention to detail.

Trump had experienced guys the last go around and they all turned on him and his vision. Experience is secondary this go around. A guy that can take the political heat without bowing to the establishment is paramount to Trump succeeding in his agenda to de-politicize this corrupt department.

I rather have a guy that has been investigating this department over a guy with either courtroom or administrative experience.

And FWIW twk, I'm a country lawyer in is 60's, too.

The 5200 Acres said:

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Trump had experienced guys the last go around and they all turned on him and his vision. Experience is secondary this go around. A guy that can take the political heat without bowing to the establishment is paramount to Trump succeeding in his agenda to de-politicize this corrupt department.

I rather have a guy that has been investigating this department over a guy with either courtroom or administrative experience.

And FWIW twk, I'm a country lawyer in is 60's, too.

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The problem was he chose the wrong experienced guys. He listened to the RINOs and Neocons and thought they would get behind him since he was President. He got played. There are some brilliant intellectual conservatives that can really help Trump if he lets them. Right now most of the folks around him are recent Red Pills or folks that simply worship at the Trump alter daily. Some are very promising and some are smart but some are also straight up grifters or idiots. I was glad to see him finally get rid of Loomer, I wish he would do the same with Stone.

Taking heat is one thing but you have to be smart and choose your battles. My concern with Gaetz is he will try and just fight everything all the time and that's not how you win. You win by having a detailed plan and executing it. Thus I think we will get some W's but also get some L's with a guy like Gaetz and we will burn a lot of capital pushing him through. I still am not sure there isn't a larger strategy being used with that nomination.

These pompous, overly self-loved, narcissistic, career politicians should resign and retire, including the 2 that will most likely immediately close no.

Why are we listening to senators that have done nothing in 30+ years to correct the corruption and problems in our federal government and at the same time say no to change agents?

Vote for term limits

If the left is against it, I'm all for it. They crushed this country with their corruption and incompetence so **** them!

With lawfare, the lack of standing across the board in all our shady elections, and the obvious corruption within the DOJ, I'm all for shaking up the typical way to fill this appointment.

I'm sure there is no shortage of legal beagles that will suck up to him and provide advice. What he brings is cajones and an axe to grind. I'm all for it.

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doubledog said:

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Merrick Garland has a allegedly ideal experience and we all know how that turned out.

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And Eric Holder.

Completely meaningless criticism.

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The point of the post was that the Trump team is sending a big "screw you" to the DEMS and the MSM. It does not matter if Gaetz has experience, what matters is that he is not one of them (MSM, Liberal)

JFK named his brother, who had very limited experience since he mostly handled JFK's campaigns for office as AG. Why? Loyalty and loyalty only.

HTownAg98 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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The Banned said:

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Agree with OP. To clean out the DOJ one must know how to navigate the DOJ, or surround yourself with people that can help you.

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Rod Rosenstein, et al were masters at navigating the DOJ. Trump absolutely needs to bring in an outsider.

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Rod would be an excellent choice.

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Yes, if you want to continue partisan politics in the DOJ.

HTownAg98 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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The Banned said:

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Agree with OP. To clean out the DOJ one must know how to navigate the DOJ, or surround yourself with people that can help you.

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Rod Rosenstein, et al were masters at navigating the DOJ. Trump absolutely needs to bring in an outsider.

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Rod would be an excellent choice.

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The Mueller thread would refute that statement quite well. There is a reason Rosie quit and got the hell outts Dodge the moment the Mueller Report hit DOJ.

doubledog said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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doubledog said:

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Merrick Garland has a allegedly ideal experience and we all know how that turned out.

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And Eric Holder.

Completely meaningless criticism.

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The point of the post was that the Trump team is sending a big "screw you" to the DEMS and the MSM. It does not matter if Gaetz has experience, what matters is that he is not one of them (MSM, Liberal)

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I was agreeing with you.

On day one, Gaetz should have a picture of himself hung by the employee entrance of every DOJ office around the country. That will turn the light on the cockroaches.

Matt Gaetz is a member of the Florida bar, went to a good law school (William & Mary), practiced law in private practice, and has been an elected official since 2010. Based on historical precedent, he is MORE than qualified to be the U.S. Attorney General. His leadership on… https://t.co/8wwE4UB92s

— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@pnjaban) November 19, 2024

Experience in what? I don't want an entrenched bureaucrat lawyer. I want a disrupter and he's got that experience in spades.

Major Functions

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The principal duties of the Attorney General are to:

• Represent the United States in legal matters.
• Supervise and direct the administration and operation of the Department of Justice, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Drug Enforcement Administration, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Bureau of Prisons, Office of Justice Programs and the U.S. Attorneys and U.S. Marshals Service, which are all within the Department of Justice.
• Supervise and direct the administration and operation of the offices, boards, divisions, and bureaus that comprise the Department.
• Furnish advice and opinions, formal and informal, on legal matters to the President and the Cabinet and to the heads of the executive departments and agencies of the government, as provided by law.
• Make recommendations to the President concerning appointments to federal judicial positions and to positions within the Department, including U.S. Attorneys and U.S. Marshals.
• Represent or supervise the representation of the United States Government in the Supreme Court of the United States and all other courts, foreign and domestic, in which the United States is a party or has an interest as may be deemed appropriate.
• Perform or supervise the performance of other duties required by statute or Executive Order.

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The actual "lawyer" part of this job is so small that almost no lawyer would have a resume sufficient. Same thing is true for almost all these cabinet positions.

doubledog said:

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Merrick Garland has an allegedly ideal experience and we all know how that turned out.

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So did Eric Holder.

Jeeper79 said:

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There's more to the job than cleaning house. WAY more. You've also got to run the thing. Who honestly thinks Gaetz can do that effectively?

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Donald Trump

Trump picked him and until he proves otherwise, he has my support!

The AG role isn't to be the national lawyer for America.