Gaetz: the experience issue

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wtmartinaggie
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What are his key accomplishments as a professional/politician? I don't know him well so I did some digging around. If y'all could let me know what I missed, I'd appreciate it.

It doesn't appear like he's really accomplished a lot. He seems like the type of generational career politician we're all trying to get out of politics with a penchant for grandstanding for attention.

1) As a fed rep he's stirred the pot with the gas mask stunt, introducing the failed effort to abolish the EPA, and was a leader in the McCarthy ouster. He's voted for and against somet things against the grain, but not anything that really mattered or made a difference.
2) He is a third-generation politician. He got into politics at age 28 and has been there ever since after filling a seat in a special election caused by a corruption case levied on the incumbent. He ran unopposed for reelection, three times. During his time as a state rep, he never had to defend his record in a meaningful way.
3) In FL he was a proponent of the stand your ground law as the chariman of the state justice committee. Nice feather in his cap for sure, but all he really did was dig his heels in. He didn't really have to do much else.

I'm struggling to find much that supports the narrative that he's this super impactful change agent that's going to make a difference. Where has he proven his ability to do that? He's strong-willed and convicted, but to what end? He's also got some really questionable marks on his record.

What am I missing? After doing more research and really digging into it, it seems more likely that he's a decoy to distract attention so the other folks get confirmed. It was likely he was going to have to resign his seat anyway due to the heat he's under, so this just gave him a chance to do so with some cover.
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wtmartinaggie said:

What are his key accomplishments as a professional/politician? I don't know him well so I did some digging around. If y'all could let me know what I missed, I'd appreciate it.
When did this become the standard? Why would it be different on January 20, 2025 than it is now?
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I'm going to just leave this right here for posterity's sake....

The 20 Republican senators who voted in 2021 to confirm Merrick Garland as attorney general are, in alphabetical order,
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Richard Burr of North Carolina
Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
Susan Collins of Maine
John Cornyn of Texas
Joni Ernst of Iowa
Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
Chuck Grassley of Iowa
Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma
Ron Johnson of Wisconsin
James Lankford of Oklahoma
Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
Jerry Moran of Kansas
Lisa Murkowski of Arkansas
Rob Portman of Ohio
Mitt Romney of Utah
Mike Rounds of South Dakota
John Thune of South Dakota
Thom Tillis of North Carolina.

I'm very curious to see who of this list will vote 'no' against Gaetz. Some of them are already publicly complaining about Trump's pick...

https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/11/18/republicans-who-voted-for-merrick-garland-as-ag-complain-about-matt-gaetz-trumps-choice/
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That's irrelevant and a diversion tactic to what I was asking.
Ellis Wyatt
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wtmartinaggie said:

That's irrelevant and a diversion tactic to what I was asking.
No, it's not. It either matters or it doesn't.

I'm sick of this double standard crap.
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Well then don't divert to the double standard when it suits you. Do you want your cabinet members qualified or not? If we both do, then we can talk about it. If you don't think that someone needs to be exceptional to have a senior role in our government, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
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wtmartinaggie said:

Well then don't divert to the double standard when it suits you.
You're the one demanding the double standard.

Newsflash: down is not up.
jrdaustin
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wtmartinaggie said:

Well then don't divert to the double standard when it suits you. Do you want your cabinet members qualified or not? If we both do, then we can talk about it. If you don't think that someone needs to be exceptional to have a senior role in our government, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
Then let me ask you...

Question #1:
What were Bobby Kennedy's qualifications at 35 years of age when his brother made him Attorney General?

Question #2:
How did Bobby Kennedy do in that role?
wtmartinaggie
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How so?
wtmartinaggie
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Are you really comparing him to Gaetz? To compare their accomplishments or qualifications at their time of nomination is laughable.

What has Gaetz done? Everyone keeps dodging that question. I'm not trying to start a conflict with y'all, I seriously want to know what he's done.
BoerneGator
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twk said:

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We're living in a society today where lack of political experiences Really not that big of a deal. It's actually a qualification.
Political experience is the only thing Gaetz has going for him. It's his professional experience that is being questioned here.

Maybe I'm overly sensitive as a lawyer myself, but I had more experience practicing law as a small town lawyer at the age of 42 than Gaetz does. I'm not questioning his instincts; I'm questioning his ability.
What you are really questioning here is Trump's judgment.

Gaetz is nothing, if not a firebrand/lightning rod. It seems that is precisely what Trump wants for the position. Perhaps we should trust his instincts….?
 
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