Busing illegal immigrants to the big cities garnered huge media attention across the nation that resulted in a major benefit to Trump victory. He deserves admiration and recognition for this.
Abbott has not received attention for Trump victory
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Pivotal development. Shifted the immigration conversation from a border state to a national issue and shined a light on the failures of the Biden administration.
Abbott, Cornyn, John Sharp, and Bush are all GOP elite they all need to go.
It was a light out move. To see immigration be a concern on a national scale was something I never thought I'd see. The number of conversations I've had with libs living 1000+ miles from the border telling me illegal immigration is the compassionate thing to do was torture.
Abbott made libs get what they voted for, changing their votes lol
People on this forum have been joking for over a decade to ship illegals to blue strongholds and wealthy areas in the northeast. The result was even better than expected, and its importance in this election cannot be understated.
The most revealing part to me was dropping off 50 people in Martha's Vineyard, and seeing the National Guard deployed there within 24 hours to remove them.
The most revealing part to me was dropping off 50 people in Martha's Vineyard, and seeing the National Guard deployed there within 24 hours to remove them.
Abbott bussed people all over the country because it would benefit him politically and he was riding a safe wave because he heard illegal immigration was not popular with TX citizens.
Abbott is establishment, but he's been more red-pilled these several years. He screwed up big time when COVID first hit, with his mask mandates and lockdowns, but he repented and saw the light.
And his bussing of illegals was pure genius. He's alright in my book.
And his bussing of illegals was pure genius. He's alright in my book.
dumb.FriscoKid said:
Abbott bussed people all over the country because it would benefit him politically and he was riding a safe wave because he heard illegal immigration was not popular with TX citizens.
no politician, anywhere is altruistic. everything they do if for selfish purposes. even if it is just getting re-elected.
FriscoKid said:
Abbott bussed people all over the country because it would benefit him politically and he was riding a safe wave because he heard illegal immigration was not popular with TX citizens.
So an elected government official did something that his citizens wanted him to do on their behalf? Weird…
FriscoKid said:
Abbott bussed people all over the country because it would benefit him politically and he was riding a safe wave because he heard illegal immigration was not popular with TX citizens.
This. he's a typical politician. he always waits for someone else to make a risky move and then copies it when it pays off. dude is pretty spineless. (no pun intended)
remember it was DeSantis who put them on planes and did this first.
All I care about is Abbott grew some balls and is absolutely kicking ass for Texans.
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free (government sanctioned with no repercussion of deportation) transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
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Yeah, free bus rides are the reason that the illegals just kept coming. They would totally stayed home if they had to buy their own bus fare. Or they would have stayed in Texas.
Do y'all ever think beyond how you can hate on someone you don't like, even when he's doing a good thing?
Do y'all ever think beyond how you can hate on someone you don't like, even when he's doing a good thing?
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OP with a very solid take and you dumbasses are ****ting on it. Bussing illegals to big cities drove even the democrats to loathe Biden border policy. Big win for Abbott and DeSantis and Republicans.
Trump - for his part - has seemingly unified the party. We need to ride this wave rather than demand divisive loyalty tests.
Trump - for his part - has seemingly unified the party. We need to ride this wave rather than demand divisive loyalty tests.
FriscoKid said:
Abbott, Cornyn, John Sharp, and Bush are all GOP elite they all need to go.
Abbot, and Abbot alone, exposed the hypocrisy of the liberal mindset on immigration. Go sit in the corner and color while the adults have an actual conversation.
Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
This. It was the worse move he could make and he chose it. Why not shut down state highways going to and from Mexico? That would actually be effective.
Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
Wow...
Please tell me this is sarcasm and not an idiotic post that was intended to be clever and taken seriously.
Game changer
Enzomatic said:Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
Wow...
Please tell me this is sarcasm and not an idiotic post that was intended to be clever and taken seriously.
It is serious and calls out the idiocy of government sanctioned assistance to illegals. You can praise helping illegals all you want for the political gotcha towards the democrats but I'd rather stay focused on not giving government a pass for helping illegals.
He didn't force any illegals out of Texas. They had to voluntarily go and sign a waiver. Thus Abbott helped illegals that get to their desired destination further in the U.S. when he could have done countless other actions to secure the border and deter illegals rather than attract them.
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SociallyConditionedAg said:Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
This. It was the worse move he could make and he chose it. Why not shut down state highways going to and from Mexico? That would actually be effective.
Because Americans in other states need to experience it. They will never believe what their eyes do not see. We can explain the barrios. We can explain the that "press 1 for English" has a 50/50 shot of being an average interaction west of I-35. And they won't care. They won't believe it.
Seeing is believing
Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
There is Forrest Gump level thinking and then there is this. Run Tea Party, run.
The Banned said:SociallyConditionedAg said:Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
This. It was the worse move he could make and he chose it. Why not shut down state highways going to and from Mexico? That would actually be effective.
Because Americans in other states need to experience it. They will never believe what their eyes do not see. We can explain the barrios. We can explain the that "press 1 for English" has a 50/50 shot of being an average interaction west of I-35. And they won't care. They won't believe it.
Seeing is believing
I respect that mentality, but view that as an unnecessary risk when those pro illegal invasion areas are already viewing illegals as political clout. Census, federal funding, racial division, etc.
The plan could severely backfire. Though it could get bailed out by Trumps mass deportations and the left severely overplaying their hand of sprinting rather than walking left.
And the bigger question is why are we bothering to teach leftists why illegal immigration is bad? The political ideologies are so incompatible that you either have to beat them into submission, submit to them, or part ways. Giving them illegals to deal with in the hopes they learn from it is insanity. It's a miscalculation being praised because it might get bailed out.
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the feds are already bussing and flying illegals all over the place. The pittance that we ship north is like a fart in a hurricane.Tea Party said:The Banned said:SociallyConditionedAg said:Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
This. It was the worse move he could make and he chose it. Why not shut down state highways going to and from Mexico? That would actually be effective.
Because Americans in other states need to experience it. They will never believe what their eyes do not see. We can explain the barrios. We can explain the that "press 1 for English" has a 50/50 shot of being an average interaction west of I-35. And they won't care. They won't believe it.
Seeing is believing
I respect that mentality, but view that as an unnecessary risk when those pro illegal invasion areas are already viewing illegals as political clout. Census, federal funding, racial division, etc.
The plan could severely backfire. Though it could get bailed out by Trumps mass deportations and the left severely overplaying their hand of sprinting rather than walking left.
And the bigger question is why are we bothering to teach leftists why illegal immigration is bad? The political ideologies are so incompatible that you either have to beat them into submission, submit to them, or part ways. Giving them illegals to deal with in the hopes they learn from it is insanity. It's a miscalculation being praised because it might get bailed out.
WE are doing it to strategic places to make them hurt. and to point out their hypocrisy.
much more useful as a political tool.
To be blunt: most people from non-border states are much more racist than we are, but they claim they aren't. We're the ones buying breakfast tacos, watching our kids playing sports with their kids, and interacting on a daily basis. We know that there are plenty of good people from down south that are coming here for a better life. But we also see the bad ones.
Those in non-border states hear stories about the good immigrants and think stories about the bad ones are bogus. The second they realize that it's incredibly difficult to integrate people who have no intention of integrating, they back off their open borders stance. Remember: we don't need "build the wall" from these people. We simply need them to realize that "they aren't harming anyone" is bull***** And because they are much more racist than we are down here, the second they have to adapt to people who haven't adopted our language or way of living, they get radically uncomfortable.
Those in non-border states hear stories about the good immigrants and think stories about the bad ones are bogus. The second they realize that it's incredibly difficult to integrate people who have no intention of integrating, they back off their open borders stance. Remember: we don't need "build the wall" from these people. We simply need them to realize that "they aren't harming anyone" is bull***** And because they are much more racist than we are down here, the second they have to adapt to people who haven't adopted our language or way of living, they get radically uncomfortable.
Hate to say it but agreeFriscoKid said:
Abbott, Cornyn, John Sharp, and Bush are all GOP elite they all need to go.
You realize john sharp has never been a republican
Fun factdg77ag said:
You realize john sharp has never been a republican
OP is right. Abbott's busing of illegals was a big eye opener for a lot of people across the country, especially when they actually had to deal with the issue and it wasn't someone else's problem. Top 5 political moves over the last few years.
You must have missed where Abbott was deploying floating barriers and razor wire only to have the feds physically remove it and fight him endlessly in court. He finally threw his hands up and said, ok you want to be a sanctuary city, prove it. He had the mayors of NYC and Chicago squealing like a stuck pig over a few thousand people. They cried uncle and fought him every way they could and he kept pouring it on.
Sometimes you can tell a kid the stove is hot, other times you have to let them learn the hard way.
Sometimes you can tell a kid the stove is hot, other times you have to let them learn the hard way.
Good Abbott. After some rocky covid moments Abbott has been very good on just about everything.
Yeah I personally don't have much affinity toward Abbott (mainly around his TAMU-related appointments and being a sip) and would like to see someone succeed him who is not a sip, but I think even his biggest detractors on the right would have to concede he's been a pretty effective governor overall and challenged the Biden admin vigorously as much as he could.
I have no idea what if any political ambitions he has left.
I have no idea what if any political ambitions he has left.
Some of your are as beholden to your hard right ideology as the radical leftists are to theirs. Under this administration the illegals were coming unabated and Abbott's efforts to control the border were limited due to jurisdiction and what he did try to do was restricted by the administration at every turn. As an added bonus the other 46 states had no skin in the game on this issue because Texas was living it but they weren't.
Then he started bussing them north and the tide turned in a big, big way. The entire nation came to understand this is a massive problem that must be addressed. Some of you are saying that if Trump can deport them maybe that will bail Abbott out of this decision without even a hint of understanding that this move played a significant role in Trump winning. This move impacted the election in a big way. Suddenly we had people willing to speak out against this problem in ways we haven't ever seen.
The mayor of NYC cried uncle and criticized the administration for their border policy, saying it would bankrupt his city. For his honesty and daring to get off the plantation he got attacked by the DOJ which showed a substantial portion of the population that the lawfare wasn't just against Trump but against anyone who dared cross the administration. This lay bare the abject corruption of the left and destroyed any pretense that the federal government under democrats was capable of doing good.
Trump may have won the Electoral College without this but you can argue the votes he got in impacted blue states created the mandate from the popular vote win.
Then he started bussing them north and the tide turned in a big, big way. The entire nation came to understand this is a massive problem that must be addressed. Some of you are saying that if Trump can deport them maybe that will bail Abbott out of this decision without even a hint of understanding that this move played a significant role in Trump winning. This move impacted the election in a big way. Suddenly we had people willing to speak out against this problem in ways we haven't ever seen.
The mayor of NYC cried uncle and criticized the administration for their border policy, saying it would bankrupt his city. For his honesty and daring to get off the plantation he got attacked by the DOJ which showed a substantial portion of the population that the lawfare wasn't just against Trump but against anyone who dared cross the administration. This lay bare the abject corruption of the left and destroyed any pretense that the federal government under democrats was capable of doing good.
Trump may have won the Electoral College without this but you can argue the votes he got in impacted blue states created the mandate from the popular vote win.
A fearful society is a compliant society. That's why Democrats and criminals prefer their victims to be unarmed. Gun Control is not about guns, it's about control.
You have a very slanted view of reality. More interested in winning a battle than winning the war.Tea Party said:
Assisting illegals get further into the country thus attracting more illegals with free transportation.
He is only bailed out of this idiotic move if trump can deport every illegal Abbott helped domestically and attracted with this political stunt. And yes I believe trump would have won without Abbott's idiotic free rides for illegals stunt.
flyrancher
Abbott deserves accolades for waking much of the country up regarding illegal invaders pouring over the border. So his recent growth spurt in the cahones department makes him much more stomachable than during the dark days of Covid.
Having said all that, Idk about y'all but I don't want politicians to stay in office for 10, 20, 30 years. Only seems to corrupt them. That includes Abbott, and definitely denizens of DC, and state legislatures.
As far as Cornyn and Bush, jettison those jack*****! Cornyn needs primaried in the worst way.
Sharp is a Democrat. . .nuff said.
Having said all that, Idk about y'all but I don't want politicians to stay in office for 10, 20, 30 years. Only seems to corrupt them. That includes Abbott, and definitely denizens of DC, and state legislatures.
As far as Cornyn and Bush, jettison those jack*****! Cornyn needs primaried in the worst way.
Sharp is a Democrat. . .nuff said.
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