Trump played this badly. Since he clearly was backing Scott but didn't come out publicly to do so it set it up for Thune. Why? Without Trump's endorsement then it was easy to vote against Scott without penalty and it also means that those who DID vote for Scott can expect retribution from Thune. So everyone that has been railing against Ted Cruz for working behind the scenes to get Scott elected and then publicly endorsing him should learn a lesson on how the politics of the Senate works.

Of course Trump will "stay above the fray" but this was his first big mistake since the election and it's going to have consequences. Thune is terrible and this just made it much harder to oppose him.

So what does Thune do with Scott? Bring him into leadership with him? Extend the olive branch?

Written request of 5 senators to force a party conference.

I’m told it was Thune 23 votes, Cornyn 15, Scott 13

There was a motion to delay the second vote two hours. It failed https://t.co/zITEf7ChTG

— Ursula Perano (@UrsulaPerano) November 13, 2024

vwbug said:

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It is totally unacceptable we do secret ballots to elect a Senate Majority Leader.

They are afraid of you.

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 13, 2024

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It's only been done this way since...always.

aezmvp said:

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Written request of 5 senators to force a party conference.

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What does that mean?

Tea Party said:

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The Republican party is a joke.

The establishment types need to know they are no longer the preferred choice of the people.

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Their constituents elect them, just like we keep electing Cornyn. It's time for the electorate to get off its ass and vote people out.

The Senate gets to elect their own leaders. I guess we'll find out how it goes. Whoever the majority leader ends up being, I'm willing to give him a chance.

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aggie93 said:

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So everyone that has been railing against Ted Cruz for working behind the scenes to get Scott elected and then publicly endorsing him should learn a lesson on how the politics of the Senate works.

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The Trump electoral and popular vote win was a mandate on getting away from how the politics currently works.

The secret vote and Thune winning is exactly what is wrong with politics and the GOP that the Trump vote was trying to get away from.

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No disagreement here but the way you do that is by blowing it up. Trump could have come out and endorsed Scott. He could have come out and said that the vote needs to be public. He could have made his intentions known in a dozen other ways. He didn't. He sat back and tried a backchannel campaign that gave the Swamp enough room to get their guy. Trump has more power and influence right now than he will ever have, this was worth using some of it but he chose not to. People in DC will take notice.

It will be fine but this was poorly played by Trump. I hope he learns from it.

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Trump played this badly. Since he clearly was backing Scott but didn't come out publicly to do so it set it up for Thune. Why? Without Trump's endorsement then it was easy to vote against Scott without penalty and it also means that those who DID vote for Scott can expect retribution from Thune. So everyone that has been railing against Ted Cruz for working behind the scenes to get Scott elected and then publicly endorsing him should learn a lesson on how the politics of the Senate works.

Of course Trump will "stay above the fray" but this was his first big mistake since the election and it's going to have consequences. Thune is terrible and this just made it much harder to oppose him.

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Quite the SSSSTTTREEETTTCCHHH

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vwbug said:

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It is totally unacceptable we do secret ballots to elect a Senate Majority Leader.

They are afraid of you.

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 13, 2024

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It's only been done this way since...always.

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It doesn't need to be. The government should be responsive to its constituents.

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I agree, but why should they? WE don't do anything about it. For too long it's been acceptable to just be opposing to the other side.

HTownAg98 said:

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Welp, there go your recess appointments.

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Number one issue. No reason to endorse recess appointments. That's not necessary at all.

That's not RHINO at all.

HTownAg98 said:

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Welp, there go your recess appointments.

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Wanna bet?

Seems some wishful thinking here. I think Trump just let the senate handle their business. I'm sure he made it quietly known what he would like to happen, but there is no point making his relationship with Cornyn/Thune any worse than it would already be by actively campaigning against them. Saying this is somehow Trump's mistake when he has no real control over the Senate's process is a bit off the mark.

Im Gipper said:

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aggie93 said:

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Trump played this badly. Since he clearly was backing Scott but didn't come out publicly to do so it set it up for Thune. Why? Without Trump's endorsement then it was easy to vote against Scott without penalty and it also means that those who DID vote for Scott can expect retribution from Thune. So everyone that has been railing against Ted Cruz for working behind the scenes to get Scott elected and then publicly endorsing him should learn a lesson on how the politics of the Senate works.

Of course Trump will "stay above the fray" but this was his first big mistake since the election and it's going to have consequences. Thune is terrible and this just made it much harder to oppose him.

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Quite the SSSSTTTREEETTTCCHHH

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Oh, so you don't think Trump wanted Scott then? All of the campaign by his surrogates for the last few days was just organic. K.

American Hardwood said:

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Seems some wishful thinking here. I think Trump just let the senate handle their business. I'm sure he made it quietly known what he would like to happen, but there is no point making his relationship with Cornyn/Thune any worse than it would already be by actively campaigning against them. Saying this is somehow Trump's mistake when he has no real control over the Senate's process is a bit off the mark.

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Trump is doing a great job overall since the election, far better than I could have hoped. That said you don't learn from things if you don't see the mistakes along with the victories.

Republicans just can't get out of their own way.

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Oh, so you don't think Trump wanted Scott then? All of the campaign by his surrogates for the last few days was just organic. K.

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Heck of a strawman you built there!

I think Trump probably would prefer Scott. But when is he ever been shy about getting his opinion? If it was a big deal to him, he would've said something!


You were bending over backwards to find fault with Trump, and the votes aren't even done being counted! (Looking at you California)

Hell, you're about to give yourself a heart attack on the Alina Habba thread!

Sit back, enjoy the ride.

Senator X will be there longer than trump, these are promises come due , it's how that world works it's not going anywhere.

MostlyHarmless said:

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If Cornyn wins I'll be sending him an email to let him know he'll have to earn my vote in the next election and to do that he will have to support Trump's agenda.

Edit: Nvm, I see that Thune won.

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Cornyn's political career is over anyway. He may as well be a democrat now.

Tea Party said:

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The Republican party is a joke.

The establishment types need to know they are no longer the preferred choice of the people.

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The establishment types don't give a damn about what the people want.

Can senators be recalled?

Not ideal but I'd rather see Thune as Majority Leader than Cornyn.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Welp, there go your recess appointments.

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Wanna bet?

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There may be some, but Thune wasn't nearly as enthusiastic about it as Scott was. Do you honestly think the senate was willing to give up this power just to appease Trump?

Thune has been elected.

WHOOP!'91 said:

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Fine, install a figure head and let Vance run the Senate.

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Vance is an even scarier option

The Senate RINOs are still living in the past, believing they are statesmen, working with Dem statesmen who all support and defend the Constitution. They do not understand that the Dems in the Senate are mostly communists that seek one party control.

The Dems are ruthless. It is time to act likewise.