Personally, I think this is what the republican congress is afraid of. I think there is a right way to do it and a wrong way. And the number of wrong ways far outnumber the number if right.

If it turns into a gestapo type thing where people call a hotline reporting house X of having illegals so that an ICE team can raid their ass, then that would get UGLY fast. It would be easy for libs to spin that as Nazis hunting jews. And in cases where parents came illegally a decade ago and now have American born children would be ugly as well. The liberal media will be tipped off on these situations, and those families WILL get interviewed have their sob stories all over the news. Every day will be another sob story.

To me, the right way is to first pass a law that denies government at any level from providing benefits to illegals that they don't pay taxes for. So no welfare, no government housing, etc., but yes on public education, drivers licenses, etc. This would encourage the free loaders to self deport. No media sob stories, etc. THEN I would go after known gang/cartel members even if we don't have proof that they committed another crime (yet). What I would NOT do is deport criminals INSTEAD of imprisoning them for their other crimes. If a dude is serving 20 years for murder, then putting him on a bus for Mexico is PREFERABLE to jail. He should serve all 20 years and THEN be deported.

Anyway, I hope Trump doesn't F this up. And I think he has to convince congress that he won't if he wants to get Rick Scott as Senate leader, and any of his agenda through.

Securing the border and clearing the backlog of unadjudicated asylum cases would go a long way toward accomplishing the same goal.

Past that, working with local and state law enforcement to identify and deport aliens with additional criminal activity (other than just being here illegally) would be a next logical step.

We're a looooong way away from just finding law abiding (other than illegally entering the country or overstaying visas) aliens and sticking them on the bus. While that may be on the menu, I don't think it is something to even worry about in the near term.

Yes, but big change for the better often takes pain. Getting this country back on a sustainable path for immigration and fiscally will be very painful. If Republicans lose some elections because they are the only adults in the room, it is still worth it.

Hungry Ojos said:

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The press is going to cover deportations just like they did that little kid in Miami years ago with the famous picture of him hiding in a closet with a bunch of agents pointing guns at him. Wall to wall sob stories. So yes, it is going to be bad.

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Exactly right.

Better to cut freebies and crack down on employers and any incentives to stay.

Forced deportations never go bad or are reported in a negative light and the media is totally on Trump's side.

What could go wrong?

Hungry Ojos said:

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The press is going to cover deportations just like they did that little kid in Miami years ago with the famous picture of him hiding in a closet with a bunch of agents pointing guns at him. Wall to wall sob stories. So yes, it is going to be bad.

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They actually reported that as the right thing to do at the time. Kid was better off under communism and w his first degree relatives they said.

OP thesis is correct.

But no matter how the immigration law is enforced it will be depicted by mainstream media as hitlerian. They are against all enforcement.

The only way to win is to start w the worst of the criminal n gang members. While removing all incentives to cheat the system. Changing the incentive structure will likely cause mass self deportations

Not at all. It's the right thing to do.

ICE will not be taking tips calls. Those tip calls are not needed. The enemy of this nation will make these stories up and jam it down our throats to produce emotions. Standard enemy game plan by media.


Secondly, was the invasion a mass invasion? The answer is Yes. So a "Mass Deportation" is fair game. If we deported half the number that came in over the next 10 years, I'd say it was successful.

If you are here illegal, your arse had better stay squeaky clean or you are going home.

Traffic stop, no documentation, ticket, court date, warrant, traffic ticket, go back home.

No

TefIon Don said:

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They need to control the narrative from the very start and not let it get spun against you. Criminals first, while everyone else either begins the citizenship process or risk being deported after X amount of time. No government assistance for noncitizens is a great start.

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How? We KNOW that the media is going to go hard against Trump whenever they get any kind of opening.

Cen-Tex said:

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Prosecuting those that hire illegals would speed up the process

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Absolutely, I can guarantee you modernizing the audit systems in the IRS could identify most of those companies in a few months.

The data is out there I just don't think anyone has ever had the stomach to look with fixing it in mind.

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No - because the reality is we'll go after criminals first and that will take some time. We won't deport 20mm people overnight. It's just not possible.

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Agreed.

As much as many want ALL immigrants gone, that's never going to happen. Four years isn't enough time for tens of millions.

At best, it'll be the criminals, which should've been kicked out already and likely didn't even work to earn their keep by getting paid under the table. It may not be much, but at least it's the most effective thing that can be done.

I think a lot of the deportation talk is posturing. It seems to be working, see migrant caravan that already turned around. No point in risking the journey if you think there is a chance trump will deport you anyways.
I don't believe it will ever be possible to deport more than a those that are in jail, or have a criminal record that allows them to be tracked in some way.

The only visual related to this I'm worried about is seeing a federal or state LEO bedecked in black tactical gear with an automatic rifle in his hand man handling a hysterical mother and her crying infant. Avoid that type photo or video at all costs. One slip up in that area and the press has its feeding frenzy. Problem is there are plenty of officials in law enforcement who might arrange for such a a thing to take place.

Cen-Tex said:

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Prosecuting those that hire illegals would speed up the process

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How about we prosecute the people that knowingly let them in, gave them a place to stay and a debit card? You know, those folks with FedGov that have allowed all this to happen.

If we follow your line of thought to it's logical conclusion: We should prosecute land lords that rent homes to illegals, school districts that teach their kids and doctors that provide them non-emergency care.

Hannity had Homan on last night and I really got a bad vibe from that guy. Doesn't seem to be very politically adept.

He did say they will go after criminals and gang members first, which not many should have issues with, but if/ when they start separating families it's going to get ugly.

No, because I already know it will be.

Every single crying kid or wife will be featured all day, every day for the entire term.

The question is, will the gov't have the stomach to hold the line, or will the politicians and bureaucrats be more interested in retaining their power? I'm guessing the latter.

Trump isnt running for reelection. He will not care what the media says.

The good thing about all of this is that Trump is older and does not have to worry about re-election. Do the deportation in an orderly manner and there should be little fallout. If he starts with that dude's grandma that live in apartment 4b and gets off work at six and doesn't have any dogs, then there may be some backlash.

At the end of the day, we only have one chance to fix the illegal immigration problem, and this is it.

Houston Lee said:

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Trump isnt running for reelection. He will not care what the media says.

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He isn't running but there will be a Republican running in 28' so how this is handled matters greatly.

I'm not concerned with how the media covers its because its will be over the top ridiculous.

I'm more concerned with if the deportations will continue after the mid terms.

The more gone the better.

No. He ran on this bigly. It was very clear it was a prominent part of his plan if elected. He then won the POPULAR VOTE.

To OP's question: not one bit.

I'm not following leftists down their daily rabbit holes. This stupid narrative will fade away like all the rest of em.