Just checked fox to get a vote update and noticed Kamala only has 66M votes. How on earth did Brandon get 81M?????
81M???
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OdessaAg said:
Just checked fox to get a vote update and noticed Kamala only has 66M votes. How on earth did Brandon get 81M?????
Mail in votes and voter fraud.
Covid allowed for states to bypass voting laws
Sounds like 15M people either:
a - never existed
b - died of COVID
c - realised their mistake
d - weren't Black
a - never existed
b - died of COVID
c - realised their mistake
d - weren't Black
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
Easy.... dems cheated last timeBryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
it is entirely plausible that a lot of democrats weren't excited to vote for Kamala considering:Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
1. She was the least popular democratic primary candidate in 2020
2. She became the candidate after the proof of lying about Bidens health came clear
And a lot of people likely said hell no I don't want to vote for her.
Combine that with the state of immigration and the economy over the last 4 years and this became trumps election to lose and he handled business
Yeah, but so many more FOR Biden? Fishy at minimum…
Apathy returned.
There is absolutely no way that apathy explains away 15 million votes.
As I posted on another thread:
Harris is finishing 15,000,000 short of where Biden allegedly got to (81 mm vs 66 mm). I don't believe for a second Biden won 81mm votes. I think they definitely stole the election for Biden, realized there was no way to get away with it in the same way with her and left her out to dry.
I think it's also the reason you are not seeing even an ounce of them claiming cheating or voter fraud and you are seeing people like Mark Cuban appear to accept it because they want Trump to leave the 2020 election alone and not look into it now that he is in power.
It's clear that the dem marching orders were: "Accept the results, call Trumps supporters racist misogynists, and live to fight another day".
I believe that 2020 popular vote was more realistically:
Trump: 74 mm
Biden: 72 mm
As I posted on another thread:
Harris is finishing 15,000,000 short of where Biden allegedly got to (81 mm vs 66 mm). I don't believe for a second Biden won 81mm votes. I think they definitely stole the election for Biden, realized there was no way to get away with it in the same way with her and left her out to dry.
I think it's also the reason you are not seeing even an ounce of them claiming cheating or voter fraud and you are seeing people like Mark Cuban appear to accept it because they want Trump to leave the 2020 election alone and not look into it now that he is in power.
It's clear that the dem marching orders were: "Accept the results, call Trumps supporters racist misogynists, and live to fight another day".
I believe that 2020 popular vote was more realistically:
Trump: 74 mm
Biden: 72 mm
People were not excited to vote for either one. It has been pretty easy to see the lack of excitement. It's like there was a death of yard signs, bumper stickers, and casual political discussions this cycle.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
It was partly cheating and party a lack of enthusiasm by Dems to vote for Heels-Up Harris. A lot of Dems stayed home.
We may not always get what we want. We may not always get what we need. Just so we don't get what we deserve.
lol2008and1 said:
Apathy returned.
Phatbob said:People were not excited to vote for either one. It has been pretty easy to see the lack of excitement. It's like there was a death of yard signs, bumper stickers, and casual political discussions this cycle.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
You obviously don't live anywhere near me
You don't "cheat" a 15 million delta in votes. The manpower that would take is hard to fathom. What did happen in 2020 is the rules were changed to allow people that had never voted before vote in 2020 because it was super easy to do so, and those people didn't show up in 2024. If you want to call that cheating, fine, but the votes were legitimate.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
oh aint saying there wasn't some screwy stuff going on....cause i firmly believe there was...aggiegolfer03 said:
Yeah, but so many more FOR Biden? Fishy at minimum…
democrats pulled every card they could in terms of politics and voting policy to take advantage of covid and ensure a victory and that was a factor too....
im just saying that wasn't the only reason....
Phatbob said:People were not excited to vote for either one. It has been pretty easy to see the lack of excitement. It's like there was a death of yard signs, bumper stickers, and casual political discussions this cycle.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
I think you mean people weren't excited to vote for ONE candidate, not both.
History will have a hard time explaining this… pic.twitter.com/8t26E4bjz7
— EducatëdHillbilly™ (@RobProvince) November 6, 2024
Trump didn't fall off like Kamala/Dems.
I'm telling people it sadly shows the racism and sexism in the Democratic party.
81 million for the old white guy.
60-65 million for the bi racial woman.
Then wait for the reaction.... And eventually this conclusion....
81 million for the old white guy.
60-65 million for the bi racial woman.
Then wait for the reaction.... And eventually this conclusion....
— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) November 6, 2024
Another thing was the successful recruiting of the Center Left, the thinking left that doesn't just obey the TV news or teachers. Musk, RFK, Tulsi, Rogan, even Bezos in a way --- they represent the tip of an iceberg that had had it with D.C.'s purely "Elysium" style agenda geared just for the ruling political press class and CNN's analysis of how narrow some of Kamala's blue state wins last night after PA was interesting. NJ not even being definite in the ordinary sense.HTownAg98 said:
You don't "cheat" a 15 million delta in votes. The manpower that would take is hard to fathom. What did happen in 2020 is the rules were changed to allow people that had never voted before vote in 2020 because it was super easy to do so, and those people didn't show up in 2024. If you want to call that cheating, fine, but the votes were legitimate.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
HTownAg98 said:
You don't "cheat" a 15 million delta in votes. The manpower that would take is hard to fathom. What did happen in 2020 is the rules were changed to allow people that had never voted before vote in 2020 because it was super easy to do so, and those people didn't show up in 2024. If you want to call that cheating, fine, but the votes were legitimate.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
Seriously you don't cheat that much and not have that big of a lid to cover it all up. With cheating at that level there wasn't a single lawyer that could gather a 10th of that for evidence?! Take off the tin foil hats people.
HTown, you make great points across the board. Talking about this election cycle, Biden and his admin were exposed over the last 4 years. And it was so bad he had to drop out leaving an incompetent backup (her failures heading up the border proved as such). When you combine that with the reenforced narrative of Dems trying to eliminate dissent with the multiple assassination attempts on the lead Republican candidate, and you have a no win situation for Harris and and message she had
how could dems not be enthused to vote to keep Hitler out of office? It is just validation that Covid allowed shenanigans that never be allowed again. Trump is the first 3 term president since FDR by true vote.Phatbob said:People were not excited to vote for either one. It has been pretty easy to see the lack of excitement. It's like there was a death of yard signs, bumper stickers, and casual political discussions this cycle.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
Biden today:
"Don't care, laundered money"
"Don't care, laundered money"
Didn't believe Biden when he said the greatest voter fraud machine ever.
The above posts are all reasonable excuses…
The 2020 reason, and THE ONLY REASON…
BALLOT HARVESTING AND MADE UP VOTES OUT OF THIN AIR….
Quit being p*ssies… The b*astards stole it, plain and simple… You know it…. I know it… THEY know it…
The 2020 reason, and THE ONLY REASON…
BALLOT HARVESTING AND MADE UP VOTES OUT OF THIN AIR….
Quit being p*ssies… The b*astards stole it, plain and simple… You know it…. I know it… THEY know it…
HTownAg98 said:
You don't "cheat" a 15 million delta in votes. The manpower that would take is hard to fathom. What did happen in 2020 is the rules were changed to allow people that had never voted before vote in 2020 because it was super easy to do so, and those people didn't show up in 2024. If you want to call that cheating, fine, but the votes were legitimate.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
Maybe a lot of those "first time voters" in 2020 really didn't fill out their own ballots.
Joe's a potato. Harris is an unlikeable, cackling potato.
and fraud.
and fraud.
No, they filled them out because they could vote from the comfort of their home. This time, they had to leave the house, go stand in line, and cast their ballot. Never underestimate the inherent laziness in people. And throw in a candidate that people weren't enthusiastic about, and you get this result.
Joe didn't turn on his ballot printers for her. Simple as that.
We are probably 5 to 10 % short of total votes counted right now. So we are only probably talking about around 8 million more votes in 2020. Still, the difference will be mail in ballots/harveting/cheating by the dems.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
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Unsolicited. Mail. Ballots.riverrataggie said:OdessaAg said:
Just checked fox to get a vote update and noticed Kamala only has 66M votes. How on earth did Brandon get 81M?????
Mail in votes and voter fraud.
Period.
For a ****ing cold virus.
Peak clown world.
I think it was a combination of some no/low propensity lazy Dem voters getting to vote an easy way by mail and some fraud mixed in with that due to the unsecure nature and lack of custodial control with the rules changes due to Covid.
NOT ALL OF THE VOTES ARE COUNTED YET!txaggie_08 said:Phatbob said:People were not excited to vote for either one. It has been pretty easy to see the lack of excitement. It's like there was a death of yard signs, bumper stickers, and casual political discussions this cycle.Bryanisbest said:
155 million total votes 2020 vs 137 million total votes 2024? Why the 18 million less votes in 2024? How did America lose 18 million votes total votes?
I think you mean people weren't excited to vote for ONE candidate, not both.History will have a hard time explaining this… pic.twitter.com/8t26E4bjz7
— EducatëdHillbilly™ (@RobProvince) November 6, 2024
Trump didn't fall off like Kamala/Dems.
Trump will end up with 75+ million probably.
The difference from 2020 will likely be closer to 8 to 10 million less. Almost all for dems from the covid cheating machine.
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One more time, NOT ALL OF THE VOTES ARE COUNTED YET. Trump will end up with quite a few more votes than his 2020 total. The delta from 20 to 24 will be much less than 15 million.HTownAg98 said:
You don't "cheat" a 15 million delta in votes. The manpower that would take is hard to fathom. What did happen in 2020 is the rules were changed to allow people that had never voted before vote in 2020 because it was super easy to do so, and those people didn't show up in 2024. If you want to call that cheating, fine, but the votes were legitimate.
Voter apathy, drastic reductions in mail-in voting, and a seismic shift in the hispanic vote due to illegal immigration is why Harris lost.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. Yes, the difference will be smaller. But you still can't explain it with "cheating."
Al Bula said:
Biden today:
"Don't care, laundered money"
Or "……:sniffed hair"
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